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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 26 2018 14:10 GMT
#121
On October 26 2018 23:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 23:03 Ej_ wrote:
2h to Blizzcon and only 5 pages of guesscrafting about players form and priorities?!

On the bright side, I finished the new Assassin's Creed game just in time for Blizzcon. So now I can properly focus on that.


Have you also finished your little tantrum and gotten ready to come back into the warm fuzzy arms of youknowwhichplace?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 26 2018 14:11 GMT
#122
On October 26 2018 23:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 23:03 Ej_ wrote:
2h to Blizzcon and only 5 pages of guesscrafting about players form and priorities?!

On the bright side, I finished the new Assassin's Creed game just in time for Blizzcon. So now I can properly focus on that.


Is it any good? I lost interest in AC after the 3rd.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 14:35:34
October 26 2018 14:16 GMT
#123
On October 26 2018 23:11 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 23:06 Elentos wrote:
On October 26 2018 23:03 Ej_ wrote:
2h to Blizzcon and only 5 pages of guesscrafting about players form and priorities?!

On the bright side, I finished the new Assassin's Creed game just in time for Blizzcon. So now I can properly focus on that.


Is it any good? I lost interest in AC after the 3rd.

It's an open world RPG now. Very different from what the series used to be. I have my issues with it but it's a good game.
On October 26 2018 23:10 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 23:06 Elentos wrote:
On October 26 2018 23:03 Ej_ wrote:
2h to Blizzcon and only 5 pages of guesscrafting about players form and priorities?!

On the bright side, I finished the new Assassin's Creed game just in time for Blizzcon. So now I can properly focus on that.


Have you also finished your little tantrum and gotten ready to come back into the warm fuzzy arms of youknowwhichplace?

Not coming back.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
iamHoid
Profile Joined July 2018
3 Posts
October 26 2018 14:32 GMT
#124
On October 26 2018 23:11 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 23:06 Elentos wrote:
On October 26 2018 23:03 Ej_ wrote:
2h to Blizzcon and only 5 pages of guesscrafting about players form and priorities?!

On the bright side, I finished the new Assassin's Creed game just in time for Blizzcon. So now I can properly focus on that.


Is it any good? I lost interest in AC after the 3rd.

I platinumed it on ps4, it's very good! I enjoyed it even more than Red Dead Redemption 2 (at 30% right now).

I think Serral will go down today, sadly. Zest and sOs surely have enough all ins to take him out!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 26 2018 14:36 GMT
#125
Just a reminder for everyone no one gets eliminated today. They place the first matches and then the winner match for each.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 26 2018 14:39 GMT
#126
On October 26 2018 23:36 Pandain wrote:
Just a reminder for everyone no one gets eliminated today. They place the first matches and then the winner match for each.


Oh I tough they played all of the first 2 group today, this is gonna be quick in this case, 6 bo3 with at least 2 pvt and probably a tvt is gonna fly by.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
October 26 2018 14:41 GMT
#127
On October 26 2018 23:39 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 23:36 Pandain wrote:
Just a reminder for everyone no one gets eliminated today. They place the first matches and then the winner match for each.


Oh I tough they played all of the first 2 group today, this is gonna be quick in this case, 6 bo3 with at least 2 pvt and probably a tvt is gonna fly by.

Oh don't worry they'll drag it out to match the schedule if they have to.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 26 2018 14:43 GMT
#128
On October 26 2018 23:36 Pandain wrote:
Just a reminder for everyone no one gets eliminated today. They place the first matches and then the winner match for each.

Did they change the format? Last year they played loser matches first
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 14:49:32
October 26 2018 14:48 GMT
#129
On October 26 2018 23:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 23:36 Pandain wrote:
Just a reminder for everyone no one gets eliminated today. They place the first matches and then the winner match for each.

Did they change the format? Last year they played loser matches first

Yeah the Blizzcon page says that apparently winners matches are played on the first 2 days this year. Nice change imo. Now nobody gets eliminated on day 1 at least.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 26 2018 14:51 GMT
#130
Huh didn't realize that, interesting!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 14:54:24
October 26 2018 14:51 GMT
#131
On October 26 2018 23:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 22:39 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2018 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On October 26 2018 22:28 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2018 22:20 Poopi wrote:
On October 26 2018 22:13 Elentos wrote:
On October 26 2018 21:51 Poopi wrote:
On October 26 2018 21:39 Rodya wrote:
On October 26 2018 21:23 Poopi wrote:
On October 26 2018 21:07 Rodya wrote:
Maru/TY group only interesting because it has Maru in it; there's no quesiton who is getting out. Group B though, there are 3 players any of whom could get out. Will still be fun to watch Maru play.

How so?
The meta is favorable for zergs so Lambo could pull off the upset, albeit very unlikely, and Neeb has shown in the GSL that he can take a bo3 against TY (he was up 2-1) so he could beat every one in his group.

It's not too far fetched to imagine: Maru > Lambo, TY>Neeb, TY>Maru, and Neeb>Lambo+Neeb>Maru.

Your argument about neeb is way too generous. Neeb convincingly lost to TY in GSL, and got stomped by Maru in groups.

Maru and TY are just way too strong to lose to someone of Lambo's calibre. Just making Blizzcon doesn't indicate that you're a strong player these days. If you're saying that there's a physical possibility then yes that's true, but it's so small that I'm going to write it off as zero.

How is that generous?
Neeb was up against TY 2-1, so in bo3 he would have won.

Against TY. That doesn't mean he can beat Maru.

Neeb is doing better in PvT nowadays.

As much as I'd like to believe that, it doesn't seem reasonable. You can't go from living/practicing with TY/SpeCial/other korean terrans, to playing on NA/EU, and get better in the matchup.

And I think you underestimate the difference between Maru and TY. Classic also beat TY in season 2, only to lose 4-1 to Maru. TY may have choked a bit against Zest, but that doesn't make up for how one-sided that final was. TY also seemed more reliant on the proxy meta.

TY and Maru may be even in TvT (maybe TY even has a slight advantage if they play standard, who knows), but Maru is just stronger in the non-mirrors. Especially against Protoss.

Yeah I think they're close enough in TvT for either to win. But Maru is still better in my eyes. I really think had he not gone for proxies every game he'd have won that final 4-1 or 4-2. He was better in more areas of the game.

I don't think so to be honest. His early/early mid-game was a wreck in the 2 games he didn't proxy, too. And the early advantages is what TY used to get his 3 wins.

Also don't forget Maru got a 100% build-order win with proxy reactor cyclones vs 1 rax expand but did no damage at all. It's not just the build choices that hurt Maru.

Literally all three games TY won were with a 2 base timing/allin of some kind. Maru's four wins consisted of a super lategame (he actually looked a lot better in the endgame than TY), one game won with 2 rax reaper, one relatively standard TvT, and one desperation 2 base all-in. He went 1-2-2 with the proxies overall if I remember right (win-fail-even game).

Maru didn't look awake in the first two games, so I'll agree he sucked there. Everything he did was just not that good. I really think he just lacked confidence and that's what led him to the proxies.

And is reactor cyclone a BOW against reaper expand? 2-rax reaper can be if not scouted, but I'm not sure about cyclones.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
October 26 2018 14:58 GMT
#132
On October 26 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
And is reactor cyclone a BOW against reaper expand? 2-rax reaper can be if not scouted, but I'm not sure about cyclones.

Maru hits with 2 cyclones, 2 SCVs for repair and 1 marine when TY has 2 reapers and no factory units. Maru not winning that game was ridiculous.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 26 2018 14:59 GMT
#133
2015 repeat for that terran. Lambo, make it happen. Just like Rogue did
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 15:03:18
October 26 2018 15:02 GMT
#134
Where is all the hype? Back in the OLD GOOD DAYS we had literally 1000 pages of hype before the first match of Blizzcon!
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
October 26 2018 15:04 GMT
#135
Wish this was bo5 group stage like KSL, well ok it could be worse ASL bo1 group stage ^^
Looking forward to the games!
JANGBI never forget
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
October 26 2018 15:05 GMT
#136
On October 27 2018 00:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Where is all the hype? Back in the OLD GOOD DAYS we had literally 1000 pages of hype before the first match of Blizzcon!


a somewhat artificially inflated 1000 pages...
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 15:07:11
October 26 2018 15:06 GMT
#137
On October 27 2018 00:05 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 00:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Where is all the hype? Back in the OLD GOOD DAYS we had literally 1000 pages of hype before the first match of Blizzcon!


a somewhat artificially inflated 1000 pages...

1091 pages of pure hype.

Todays young people are just so lazy! Back in my days we were not afraid to post.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
October 26 2018 15:06 GMT
#138
On October 27 2018 00:04 ionONE wrote:
Wish this was bo5 group stage like KSL, well ok it could be worse ASL bo1 group stage ^^
Looking forward to the games!

Could be nice. Could also be a total scheduling nightmare.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
October 26 2018 15:12 GMT
#139
Fuck yeah this is beginning soon!

Hopefully we get to see Maru destroy Lambo

I know players ain't eliminated today but if Serral loses his first match that will be pretty anticlimatic
WriterMaru
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 26 2018 15:12 GMT
#140
Hi, it's been a while.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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