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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
October 26 2018 20:58 GMT
#1201
On October 27 2018 05:55 Nezgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.


We've had this said about half a dozen other Terrans before.
"Just play like Maru"
"Just play like Innovation"
"Just play like TY"
"Just play like Byun"
"Just play like [insert any top Terran here]"

Sounds like typical shitposting to me

Well, it's true only Maru has this amount of success with proxies.
It was the same for PartinG and his soul train.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 20:58:59
October 26 2018 20:58 GMT
#1202
On October 27 2018 05:57 DieuCure wrote:
Nice games so far


Hey, you are 6 month yearly for your resurrection!
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 26 2018 20:58 GMT
#1203
I think only Dark, TY, Stats and Classic can give Maru a reasonable match. Maybe Serral and Rogue.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-26 21:02:05
October 26 2018 21:01 GMT
#1204
On October 27 2018 05:55 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.

If the protoss can get shield battery + immortal and hold then they win. That's a pretty big disadvantage.

Proxy reaper alone isn't really risky though. Unless it's a cannon rush or something (even then you can win as terran, just not easy).

So in this specific game, Neeb had immortal and two shield batteries. However, even before that fight took place (so regardless of whether Neeb held or not, Maru was already ahead in workers, with a second base on the way and high tier tech available.

The point isn't whether it's possible to hold or not- the point is why would you ever not do these builds if they don't disadvantage your choices?

Proxy marauder cyclone is a popular build. And if Neeb had actually defended he would have won.

You seem to think Maru could have been held off in that game and still won, which is possible with some proxies but not this one.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
October 26 2018 21:01 GMT
#1205
On October 27 2018 05:56 Odoakar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:55 Musicus wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:55 Kimb3r wrote:
Ok so casters talk 40 minutes and then 10 min for a bo3.. SC2 in 2018, gg

Should've been bo5. Everybody wanted bo5s :/.


Yep. Blizzcon is such a trash tournament. HotS has it even worse.

I don't follow HotS. What happened?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
October 26 2018 21:01 GMT
#1206
On October 27 2018 05:58 Anc13nt wrote:
I think only Dark, TY, Stats and Classic can give Maru a reasonable match. Maybe Serral and Rogue.


idk where you've been if you think serral can only "maybe" give maru a reasonable match
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2018 21:02 GMT
#1207
On October 27 2018 05:58 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:55 Nezgar wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.


We've had this said about half a dozen other Terrans before.
"Just play like Maru"
"Just play like Innovation"
"Just play like TY"
"Just play like Byun"
"Just play like [insert any top Terran here]"

Sounds like typical shitposting to me

Well, it's true only Maru has this amount of success with proxies.
It was the same for PartinG and his soul train.

Play like Life and throw games was another common one
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 26 2018 21:03 GMT
#1208
On October 27 2018 06:01 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:58 Anc13nt wrote:
I think only Dark, TY, Stats and Classic can give Maru a reasonable match. Maybe Serral and Rogue.


idk where you've been if you think serral can only "maybe" give maru a reasonable match


I know what I said sounds crazy but if you think about it Serral hasn't had that many chances to show his ZvT skill so I reserve judgement. I do believe his ZvZ is probably best and ZvP is 2nd best or best.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 26 2018 21:03 GMT
#1209
On October 27 2018 05:55 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:55 Kimb3r wrote:
Ok so casters talk 40 minutes and then 10 min for a bo3.. SC2 in 2018, gg

Should've been bo5. Everybody wanted bo5s :/.

Bo5 + half the talking time.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
October 26 2018 21:03 GMT
#1210
can we finally have some good games today?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2018 21:03 GMT
#1211
On October 27 2018 06:03 Charoisaur wrote:
can we finally have some good games today?

lmao no come back tomorrow
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TL+ Member
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 26 2018 21:04 GMT
#1212
Was the TY vs Neeb series good? Missed that one and Maru vs Lambo.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
October 26 2018 21:04 GMT
#1213
While its true Marus games are short, i enjoyed every one of them.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 26 2018 21:05 GMT
#1214
On October 27 2018 06:02 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:58 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:55 Nezgar wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.


We've had this said about half a dozen other Terrans before.
"Just play like Maru"
"Just play like Innovation"
"Just play like TY"
"Just play like Byun"
"Just play like [insert any top Terran here]"

Sounds like typical shitposting to me

Well, it's true only Maru has this amount of success with proxies.
It was the same for PartinG and his soul train.

Play like Life and throw games was another common one

wow this is magic
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 26 2018 21:05 GMT
#1215
On October 27 2018 06:03 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 06:03 Charoisaur wrote:
can we finally have some good games today?

lmao no come back tomorrow

What games will be good tomorrow? Stats vs Has and Classic vs Nerchio maybe?
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
October 26 2018 21:06 GMT
#1216
On October 27 2018 06:04 Anc13nt wrote:
Was the TY vs Neeb series good? Missed that one and Maru vs Lambo.


Well TY vs Neeb was the only series worth watching IMO. All the other series were one sided beatdowns...
Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
October 26 2018 21:06 GMT
#1217
Stats vs. Dark is going to be great
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
October 26 2018 21:06 GMT
#1218
On October 27 2018 06:06 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 06:04 Anc13nt wrote:
Was the TY vs Neeb series good? Missed that one and Maru vs Lambo.


Well TY vs Neeb was the only series worth watching IMO. All the other series were one sided beatdowns...

And it's worth mentioning that the seal of "worth watching" still doesn't mean it was good.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
October 26 2018 21:07 GMT
#1219
On October 27 2018 06:05 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 06:03 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2018 06:03 Charoisaur wrote:
can we finally have some good games today?

lmao no come back tomorrow

What games will be good tomorrow? Stats vs Has and Classic vs Nerchio maybe?

Flash vs Effort
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 26 2018 21:07 GMT
#1220
So far stream has been live for 5 hours 20 minutes. There's been 1 hour 41 minutes of gametime
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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