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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2018 20:53 GMT
#1181
On October 27 2018 05:52 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:50 Zealously wrote:
All I want from this tournament is a Maru proxy in g7 of the grand finals

He will do it every game of the finals

Serral 4-0
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8315 Posts
October 26 2018 20:53 GMT
#1182
On October 27 2018 05:46 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
BitByBit lives on.


The lagacy of Prime is being well represented here with Maru (formerly Prime) winning through pulling the boys like BitByBit (prime) and TY with the Maka (Prime) rax to pretend he's proxying.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 26 2018 20:53 GMT
#1183
^ low quality bait
TL+ Member
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
October 26 2018 20:53 GMT
#1184
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.

Maru basically has transcended "standard" openings by now. His builds are so well crafted, his execution is almost flawless.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 26 2018 20:53 GMT
#1185
On October 27 2018 05:51 Shellshock wrote:
I expect Serral to win as group as effortlessly

I think Zest will show better warp gate all ins at least.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 26 2018 20:54 GMT
#1186
On October 27 2018 05:53 virpi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.

Maru basically has transcended "standard" openings by now. His builds are so well crafted, his execution is almost flawless.

And he proxies because he can't macro for shit

(Says the salty ass Neeb fan boi over here, don't mind me)
Faker is the GOAT!
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
October 26 2018 20:54 GMT
#1187
On October 27 2018 05:53 virpi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.

Maru basically has transcended "standard" openings by now. His builds are so well crafted, his execution is almost flawless.



99.999% of the people would right click the nexus, he went back, waited for another cyclone and then killed the nexus. This kid is out of this world.
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
October 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#1188
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.


We've had this said about half a dozen other Terrans before.
"Just play like Maru"
"Just play like Innovation"
"Just play like TY"
"Just play like Byun"
"Just play like [insert any top Terran here]"

Sounds like typical shitposting to me
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
October 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#1189
Ok so casters talk 40 minutes and then 10 min for a bo3.. SC2 in 2018, gg
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
October 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#1190
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.

For me it's Neeb that pulled probes too late.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
October 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#1191
On October 27 2018 05:51 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Well no shit Kaelaris. So much talking

I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
October 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#1192
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.

If the protoss can get shield battery + immortal and hold then they win. That's a pretty big disadvantage.

Proxy reaper alone isn't really risky though. Unless it's a cannon rush or something (even then you can win as terran, just not easy).

So in this specific game, Neeb had immortal and two shield batteries. However, even before that fight took place (so regardless of whether Neeb held or not, Maru was already ahead in workers, with a second base on the way and high tier tech available.

The point isn't whether it's possible to hold or not- the point is why would you ever not do these builds if they don't disadvantage your choices?
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
October 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#1193
On October 27 2018 05:55 Kimb3r wrote:
Ok so casters talk 40 minutes and then 10 min for a bo3.. SC2 in 2018, gg

Should've been bo5. Everybody wanted bo5s :/.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
October 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#1194
On October 27 2018 05:54 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:53 virpi wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fran_ wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.


... if you play like Maru.

Maru basically has transcended "standard" openings by now. His builds are so well crafted, his execution is almost flawless.



99.999% of the people would right click the nexus, he went back, waited for another cyclone and then killed the nexus. This kid is out of this world.


Well I believe it would not have made any difference at that point.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 26 2018 20:56 GMT
#1195
expected results so far
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
October 26 2018 20:56 GMT
#1196
On October 27 2018 05:55 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:55 Kimb3r wrote:
Ok so casters talk 40 minutes and then 10 min for a bo3.. SC2 in 2018, gg

Should've been bo5. Everybody wanted bo5s :/.


Yep. Blizzcon is such a trash tournament. HotS has it even worse.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 26 2018 20:56 GMT
#1197
On October 27 2018 05:56 Makro wrote:
expected results so far

neeb over ty wasnt really expected imo
TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
October 26 2018 20:57 GMT
#1198
Nice games so far
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
October 26 2018 20:57 GMT
#1199
On October 27 2018 05:55 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:52 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2018 05:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like the amount of power these attacks can give should come at the cost of either tech or economy, but they really don't. The problem is that these pushes don't disadvantage a terran player in any way.

If the protoss can get shield battery + immortal and hold then they win. That's a pretty big disadvantage.

Proxy reaper alone isn't really risky though. Unless it's a cannon rush or something (even then you can win as terran, just not easy).

So in this specific game, Neeb had immortal and two shield batteries. However, even before that fight took place (so regardless of whether Neeb held or not, Maru was already ahead in workers, with a second base on the way and high tier tech available.

The point isn't whether it's possible to hold or not- the point is why would you ever not do these builds if they don't disadvantage your choices?

First, he didn't have immortals when the shield batteries were up.
He didn't scout properly that Maru was gonna commit with his proxy so his shield batteries were a bit late, he almost held tho.

You can be pretty screwed if the protoss reacts better as a terran doing this build with the factory proxied because it's a big commitment. It worked out for Maru yet his defense wasn't super easy afterwards, so imagine if you don't do enough damage or get scouted early: you are dead.
WriterMaru
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8315 Posts
October 26 2018 20:58 GMT
#1200
On October 27 2018 05:55 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2018 05:55 Kimb3r wrote:
Ok so casters talk 40 minutes and then 10 min for a bo3.. SC2 in 2018, gg

Should've been bo5. Everybody wanted bo5s :/.


BO5 would be nice, but what would be better would be double elimination at the bracket stage.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
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