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On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote:
So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base.
Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack.
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France12911 Posts
Why do people bring Broodlord infestor lol?
It's Maru (!) beating soO (who isn't a monster in ZvT), not every zerg foreign included that smash other races, nor Sniper beating players better than him.
We'll have to wait and see if there is a real problem.
For now Maru still hasn't beaten Rogue with it.
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Let's go sOs! Do some weird shit
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I do feel like Zergs kinda just tech into the lategame patiently because they feel they still have the superior lategame when its not the case any more.
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On April 05 2018 18:32 Aunvilgodess wrote:
I do feel like Zergs kinda just tech into the lategame patiently because they feel they still have the superior lategame when its not the case any more.
That was the case for soO for sure. He didn't really attempt to stop Maru from getting his ideal army.
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Sweden24593 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Let's go sOs! Do some weird shit
sadly it's hard to do weird shit in PvP, however counterintuitive that sounds.
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On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote:
So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack.
Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes.
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Most confusing cast ever. Constantly mixing up names and who's building what. And who's winning :D
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On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote:
So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes.
Yes, on Ascension Dark kept suiciding army after army on 100 drones vs 50 or less SCVs and eventually lost.
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United States33565 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:39 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote:
So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes. Yes, on Ascension Dark kept suiciding army after army on 100 drones vs 50 or less SCVs and eventually lost.
Are we disregarding the Backwater game?
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Sweden24593 Posts
That mismicro from Classic
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On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote:
So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes.
They did get maxed, but Maru was still very constrained economically and could barely replace his units. And Dark had unlimited money.
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On April 05 2018 18:41 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2018 18:39 Ej_ wrote:On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote:On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote:On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote:
So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes. Yes, on Ascension Dark kept suiciding army after army on 100 drones vs 50 or less SCVs and eventually lost. Are we disregarding the Backwater game?
I thought that's what ZOU talked about, Maru was dead and Dark just took ages to actually burry him.
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Wow, that was a REALLY bad game from Classic
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Australia3303 Posts
Protoss players proxy each other:
polite version: Gamble gamble
Artosis version: CHEESY PIECE OF SHIT
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
FF the mainbase ramp still the best strat in 2018
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Looks like we can avoid the third sOs-Maru quarterfinals in a row
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On April 05 2018 18:45 Myrddrael wrote:
Wow, that was a REALLY bad game from Classic
Into a REALLY good game from Classic
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EPT
