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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 04 2018 13:24 GMT
#781
On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?

If he wins this tournament, he's had the GOAT 6 months
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 04 2018 13:24 GMT
#782
lol at people thinking that a blizzcon and gsl champ like rogue would lose to classic
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 04 2018 13:24 GMT
#783
On March 04 2018 22:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?

If he wins this tournament, he's had the GOAT 6 months

The GOAT 4 weekends
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 13:25:02
March 04 2018 13:24 GMT
#784
On March 04 2018 22:22 Avicularia wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:21 MrWayne wrote:
the interview with this blizzard guy was the only bad thing about this amazing tournament.

Blizzard delivers - as always

Tim Morten is awesome imo. Since he joined Blizzard and started working on sc2, the game has become so much better. Pretty sure that a lot of stuff that will ensure the longevity of sc2 wouldn't be in the game without him. That man deserves nothing but respect.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2018 13:25 GMT
#785
On March 04 2018 22:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?

If he wins this tournament, he's had the GOAT 6 months

lost to foreigner in GSL. so no
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 04 2018 13:25 GMT
#786
On March 04 2018 22:19 Fango wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:15 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:11 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:09 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:04 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:02 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:
Whenever players show ridiculous skill then lose to unscounted all-ins is actually one of the saddest things to watch


If Maru could learn to build a wall he wouldn't have lost to nydus, he let rogue get out of control game 5, game 3 maybe you have a point


The point is I value skill more than luck/coinflips. Rogue winning with all-ins feels lucky, his games themselves weren't very impressive


I agree with you but youre crying on the wrong grave here. Rogue is the best late game Zerg, only Dark is close or equal to him in this. The fact that he does cheese or crazy mind game strats as well just makes him so much more fun and so much stronger and harder to play against.
I think its part of the skill to recognize weaknesses in his opponents and exploit them when possible, although you would be more than capable playing the macro game with them as well.


Rogue literally just said on the stage that he knew he would get destroyed if he tried to play a macro game against Maru, that's why he went for the coinflips.


Fair enough, maybe he did not feel comfortable against Maru, he knows him well, so he used more wonky strats than against other Terran, but that is actually pretty smart and admirable. As I said, its part of the skill, I would not diminish that. Maru was just unable to adjust his game well enough to win here. + he cheesed as well


Any build that entirely relies on the end of whether the opponent scouts I just don't support, unless theres some nice mindgame it just isn't impressive to me. E.g. if Maru scouts in g3/4/maybe 5 he wins almost guaranteed. Rogue literally went for crazy builds because he didn't think he'd win and he still did.


Okay I see your point. For me, all of this is a part of the game, and a very exciting part (again for me), so I don't mind mixing these kind of things in the longer series at all
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
March 04 2018 13:25 GMT
#787
nyduses might give him a map.. but not the series.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 04 2018 13:25 GMT
#788
On March 04 2018 22:24 Paljas wrote:
lol at people thinking that a blizzcon and gsl champ like rogue would lose to classic



Classic the best player in the world vs a PatchZerg alliner, who would win ?
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 04 2018 13:25 GMT
#789
On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?



when will he win a single GSL ?
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 04 2018 13:26 GMT
#790
On March 04 2018 22:25 Mun_Su wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?



when will he win a single GSL ?

When they last a weekend.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 04 2018 13:26 GMT
#791
On March 04 2018 22:25 Shellshock wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?

If he wins this tournament, he's had the GOAT 6 months

lost to foreigner in GSL. so no

nothing wrong to losing to superior foreigner players
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 04 2018 13:26 GMT
#792
Rogue's hair got blasted

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2018 13:27 GMT
#793
On March 04 2018 22:25 Mun_Su wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?



when will he win a single GSL ?

how many Homestory Cups has he won?
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
March 04 2018 13:27 GMT
#794
we just need a little bit of trash talk
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 04 2018 13:27 GMT
#795
On March 04 2018 22:25 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?



when will he win a single GSL ?

He did
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 04 2018 13:27 GMT
#796
On March 04 2018 22:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:25 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?



when will he win a single GSL ?

He did

Still can't get past ro8 in real GSLs tho
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Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
March 04 2018 13:27 GMT
#797
On March 04 2018 22:23 bertolo wrote:
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On March 04 2018 22:21 MrWayne wrote:
the interview with this blizzard guy was the only bad thing about this amazing tournament.


And this is why I no longer play any of their games. Because that guy was seriously trying to hype skins and portraits.

you don't play blizzard game because of portraits ?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 04 2018 13:27 GMT
#798
On March 04 2018 22:27 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 22:25 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 04 2018 22:21 Makro wrote:
when will rogue be the GOAT ?



when will he win a single GSL ?

how many Homestory Cups has he won?


How many times did he retire ?
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 13:28:50
March 04 2018 13:28 GMT
#799
classic won his last tournament in 2015 and people think rogue is a patchzerg Xd
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 04 2018 13:28 GMT
#800
What is a StarCraft themed tavern brawl?

https://starcraft2.com/en-us/sc20
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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