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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 13:05:36
March 01 2018 13:05 GMT
#261
HerO also gave us the A is literally 10x the player B is meme.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 13:06:40
March 01 2018 13:06 GMT
#262
On March 01 2018 22:04 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

what? why?

Oh wait, actually the bad series was HerO against Innovation. Though I think a lot of people still felt like Polt was robbed after beating Classic and Rain?

People definitely were sad Polt lost but considering HerO didn't really abuse the blink imbalance and played his own style it wasn't too bad.
HerO-Inno was certainly one of the most painful series I've ever watched.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
March 01 2018 13:06 GMT
#263
On March 01 2018 22:05 Ej_ wrote:
HerO also gave us the A is literally 10x the player B is meme.

Wow I didn't know that.
Meme history is so interesting
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 13:07 GMT
#264
On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

remember the never-ending Immortal allin vs Jaedong?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 01 2018 13:09 GMT
#265
On March 01 2018 22:06 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:05 Ej_ wrote:
HerO also gave us the A is literally 10x the player B is meme.

Wow I didn't know that.
Meme history is so interesting

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/449082-dreamhack-bucharest-day-1-group-stages-2014?page=75#1495
The legendary post

Then Olli whined about PvZ
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
March 01 2018 13:11 GMT
#266
On March 01 2018 22:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:06 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:05 Ej_ wrote:
HerO also gave us the A is literally 10x the player B is meme.

Wow I didn't know that.
Meme history is so interesting

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/449082-dreamhack-bucharest-day-1-group-stages-2014?page=75#1495
The legendary post

Then Olli whined about PvZ

Especially funny since Impact is now the GOAT for winning a VSL.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 13:11 GMT
#267
On March 01 2018 22:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:06 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:05 Ej_ wrote:
HerO also gave us the A is literally 10x the player B is meme.

Wow I didn't know that.
Meme history is so interesting

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/449082-dreamhack-bucharest-day-1-group-stages-2014?page=75#1495
The legendary post

Then Olli whined about PvZ

wow even TB is balance whining there :O
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
March 01 2018 13:11 GMT
#268
if i'm not mistaken AGAIN it was probably my favorite time watching sc2 due to zvt/tvz

if i'm right that was during the peak of MMMM vs lingblingmuta strats which was just amazing to watch since it pushed both players to the limits of micro and a war of attrition. Despite all the balance whine it was just incredible to watch and it could've went both ways due to the nature of banelings and mines wrecking everything in the field.

Dunno if i ever enjoyed watching starcraft more than that time

On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

i guess he just existed to stomp hopes and dreams lol
this is a quote
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 13:13 GMT
#269
On March 01 2018 22:11 goody153 wrote:
if i'm not mistaken AGAIN it was probably my favorite time watching sc2 due to zvt/tvz

if i'm right that was during the peak of MMMM vs lingblingmuta strats which was just amazing to watch since it pushed both players to the limits of micro and a war of attrition. Despite all the balance whine it was just incredible to watch and it could've went both ways due to the nature of banelings and mines wrecking everything in the field.

Dunno if i ever enjoyed watching starcraft more than that time

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

i guess he just existed to stomp hopes and dreams lol

Agree. I think in LotV all matchups got better except TvZ which got much worse.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
March 01 2018 13:17 GMT
#270
On March 01 2018 22:13 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:11 goody153 wrote:
if i'm not mistaken AGAIN it was probably my favorite time watching sc2 due to zvt/tvz

if i'm right that was during the peak of MMMM vs lingblingmuta strats which was just amazing to watch since it pushed both players to the limits of micro and a war of attrition. Despite all the balance whine it was just incredible to watch and it could've went both ways due to the nature of banelings and mines wrecking everything in the field.

Dunno if i ever enjoyed watching starcraft more than that time

On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

i guess he just existed to stomp hopes and dreams lol

Agree. I think in LotV all matchups got better except TvZ which got much worse.

Well pvt certainly got better and maybe pvz as well. Can't remember what happened to the marine-tank meta on tvt's though that shit was glorious.
this is a quote
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 01 2018 13:17 GMT
#271
On March 01 2018 22:13 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:11 goody153 wrote:
if i'm not mistaken AGAIN it was probably my favorite time watching sc2 due to zvt/tvz

if i'm right that was during the peak of MMMM vs lingblingmuta strats which was just amazing to watch since it pushed both players to the limits of micro and a war of attrition. Despite all the balance whine it was just incredible to watch and it could've went both ways due to the nature of banelings and mines wrecking everything in the field.

Dunno if i ever enjoyed watching starcraft more than that time

On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

i guess he just existed to stomp hopes and dreams lol

Agree. I think in LotV all matchups got better except TvZ which got much worse.

The other matchups got slightly better while they managed to ruin the best matchup and kill build diversity. Failure of an expansion really.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 01 2018 13:17 GMT
#272
All mirrors are worse in LotV. Not arguable.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 13:18 GMT
#273
On March 01 2018 22:17 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:11 goody153 wrote:
if i'm not mistaken AGAIN it was probably my favorite time watching sc2 due to zvt/tvz

if i'm right that was during the peak of MMMM vs lingblingmuta strats which was just amazing to watch since it pushed both players to the limits of micro and a war of attrition. Despite all the balance whine it was just incredible to watch and it could've went both ways due to the nature of banelings and mines wrecking everything in the field.

Dunno if i ever enjoyed watching starcraft more than that time

On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

i guess he just existed to stomp hopes and dreams lol

Agree. I think in LotV all matchups got better except TvZ which got much worse.

Well pvt certainly got better and maybe pvz as well. Can't remember what happened to the marine-tank meta on tvt's though that shit was glorious.

there's just now a marine tank mirror on the b stream
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 13:19:23
March 01 2018 13:18 GMT
#274
On March 01 2018 22:18 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:17 goody153 wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:11 goody153 wrote:
if i'm not mistaken AGAIN it was probably my favorite time watching sc2 due to zvt/tvz

if i'm right that was during the peak of MMMM vs lingblingmuta strats which was just amazing to watch since it pushed both players to the limits of micro and a war of attrition. Despite all the balance whine it was just incredible to watch and it could've went both ways due to the nature of banelings and mines wrecking everything in the field.

Dunno if i ever enjoyed watching starcraft more than that time

On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

i guess he just existed to stomp hopes and dreams lol

Agree. I think in LotV all matchups got better except TvZ which got much worse.

Well pvt certainly got better and maybe pvz as well. Can't remember what happened to the marine-tank meta on tvt's though that shit was glorious.

there's just now a marine tank mirror on the b stream

About to turn into a raven vs raven shitshow tho
EDIT : oh you said B stream sorry. Well C stream has a bio mirror as well, turning into a raven vs raven
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 13:19 GMT
#275
On March 01 2018 22:17 Ej_ wrote:
All mirrors are worse in LotV. Not arguable.

I can understand thinking ZvZ and TvT got worse. but PvP is much better without mass collossus wars. Not arguable
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
March 01 2018 13:19 GMT
#276
On March 01 2018 22:17 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:11 goody153 wrote:
if i'm not mistaken AGAIN it was probably my favorite time watching sc2 due to zvt/tvz

if i'm right that was during the peak of MMMM vs lingblingmuta strats which was just amazing to watch since it pushed both players to the limits of micro and a war of attrition. Despite all the balance whine it was just incredible to watch and it could've went both ways due to the nature of banelings and mines wrecking everything in the field.

Dunno if i ever enjoyed watching starcraft more than that time

On March 01 2018 22:04 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 22:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:56 Pandain wrote:
Also Polt played a great IEM in 2014 where I think he took out Rain and Classic before losing to herO in a pretty good series.

This was peak HotS PvT imbalance when the blink era was at its strongest

It was HerO and a pretty bad series for everyone except Olli I think.

HerO was never heard of again once he destroyed fan favorites polt and jaedong.

i guess he just existed to stomp hopes and dreams lol

Agree. I think in LotV all matchups got better except TvZ which got much worse.

The other matchups got slightly better while they managed to ruin the best matchup and kill build diversity. Failure of an expansion really.

I haven't seen much of tvz right now but it certainly isn't as exciting as hots was. (Yeah definitely the best matchup arguably could be tvt when marine-tank was still the mirror match build)

I think the disruptor addition for protoss was good though.
this is a quote
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 01 2018 13:20 GMT
#277
Marine-Tank vs Marine Tank was a great meta... but after 6 years of existing it got a bit boring to watch.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 01 2018 13:20 GMT
#278
TY must be scripting because i heard there was no counter play to anti armor missiles.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
March 01 2018 13:20 GMT
#279
On March 01 2018 22:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 22:17 Ej_ wrote:
All mirrors are worse in LotV. Not arguable.

I can understand thinking ZvZ and TvT got worse. but PvP is much better without mass collossus wars. Not arguable

PvP got a lot worse. We lost all early game diversity (2 gate openers every game woohoo. Not to mention with 4.0 it's now fast expand every game as well!). And then instead of the potential colossus or zealot archon (which became less popular with the Time Warp nerf, yes), we get zealot archons immortal running into one another which isn't any better than colossus war.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 01 2018 13:20 GMT
#280
not arguable has lost its meaning

:/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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