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soO, Neeb, Trap | ||
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soO, Patience, Neeb. Let's go. | ||
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On February 27 2018 07:19 pvsnp wrote: Groups A and B were way harder than these ones here Yes, TRUE and Solar are much better players than Trap or soO | ||
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On February 27 2018 07:30 Ej_ wrote: Yes, TRUE and Solar are much better players than Trap or soO soO is the only player in good form, compared to Scarlett, Serral, True, and (maybe?) Solar. Granted, soO is better than any one of them but soO can only take one spot. His group as a whole is weaker. | ||
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On February 27 2018 16:31 SzuperCsiga wrote: Sorry, but it is impossible that all of Special, Zest, Bunny will advance. (because they are in the upper bracket, at least one of them will fall) There is a losers' bracket | ||
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On February 27 2018 16:34 SzuperCsiga wrote: yes. But one player will advance from the lower side of the winner bracket. Ah, you're right, I misunderstood | ||
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BUNNYYYYYYYYY | ||
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On February 27 2018 16:31 SzuperCsiga wrote: Sorry, but it is impossible that all of Special, Zest, Bunny will advance. (because they are in the upper bracket, at least one of them will fall) You're right, so let's say Zest, Bunny, Namshar for Bracket #3 then. | ||
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Bracket #4: soO Trap Neeb | ||
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3 of my favorite players in one group! soO is basically already in the RO24, but i hope Losira and TLO are able to pull it off aswell... | ||
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D-light
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On February 27 2018 19:21 Heartland wrote: I knew that Shield Batteries would create some weird rushes. What are you? A prophet? | ||
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Heartland
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As we say in Sweden, sometimes even a blind hen is correct. | ||
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Eonblu will replace Billowy | ||
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Still better than BYE, GLGL Eonblu | ||
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Poor Artosis | ||
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On February 27 2018 20:22 jarodtou wrote: Major vs Zest should be interesting. It depends of how he defends the cyclones | ||
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jarodtou
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On February 27 2018 20:25 D-light wrote: Ziggy losing 0-2 to the Romanian protoss Light in the first loser's round Poor Artosis GG Light, is he the new NightEnd.. also I like how you "share" the name D-light vs Light | ||
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On February 27 2018 20:27 jarodtou wrote: GG Light, is he the new NightEnd.. also I like how you "share" the name D-light vs Light I actually decided to go with this nickname after seeing some dank highlights of Light once. | ||
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third was key for Zest. | ||
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D-light
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EU ZvZ. | ||
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jarodtou
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Also EU ZvZ the strongest :D | ||
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On February 27 2018 20:23 Zaros wrote: Zest is probably the best PvT player in the world. I don't know, Kev. | ||
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Penev
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Kev? Sounds more like Artosis | ||
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Pandemona
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On February 27 2018 19:29 DieuCure wrote: Rofl the TLnet tweet about today's brackets Did you like it  was for you! | ||
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Durnuu
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No mention of the Bunster tho, 0/10 | ||
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Heartland
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Link plz | ||
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You were saying? | ||
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Also, Zest is the first P to qualify from the brackets! | ||
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ty | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:15 usopsama wrote: Close game 3 between Zest and Special. The gap has closed. Destroy everything that made Korean esports special and than claim that foreigners closed the gap and caught up aheu Tfw | ||
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D-light
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I'm definitely a fool. The horrible first game was just a to give the illusion that Zest isn't best. | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:16 EXRNaRa wrote: Destroy everything that made Korean esports special and than claim that foreigners closed the gap and caught up aheu Tfw I for one blame Apollo for that destruction. | ||
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Olli
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On February 27 2018 21:19 D-light wrote: I'm definitely a fool. The horrible first game was just a to give the illusion that Zest isn't best. Meh, having your proxy scouted always puts you behind. Can't really fault him much for that. Played the rest out quite well though. | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:20 D-light wrote: I for one blame Apollo for that destruction. btw, where is Apollo? I kinda miss his commentaries, such a nice lad. HeroMarine qualified! yey(more foreign T in groups) | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:20 D-light wrote: I for one blame Apollo for that destruction. soon Apollo will announce his move to LoL | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:22 Olli wrote: Meh, having your proxy scouted always puts you behind. Can't really fault him much for that. Played the rest out quite well though. Eh, I guess. | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:22 jarodtou wrote: btw, where is Apollo? I kinda miss his commentaries, such a nice lad. HeroMarine qualified! yey(more foreign T in groups) He's now the main producer for the IEM tournaments for ESL, so he's working on the tournaments just behind the camera. | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:25 D-light wrote: He's now the main producer for the IEM tournaments for ESL, so he's working on the tournaments just behind the camera. Ok, so still on E-Sports, still, kinda miss him in front of the cameras. | ||
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DieuCure
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Obviously | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:28 jarodtou wrote: Ok, so still on E-Sports, still, kinda miss him in front of the cameras. Yup. Luckily we have a bunch of other great casters, and he's doing fantastic in his current job from all I've heard. | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:31 D-light wrote: Yup. Luckily we have a bunch of other great casters, and he's doing fantastic in his current job from all I've heard. That's strange, this is a comment that seems to be positive and I can't really detect sarcasm in it. Are you sure you meant to post this on TL? | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:33 Heartland wrote: That's strange, this is a comment that seems to be positive and I can't really detect sarcasm in it. Are you sure you meant to post this on TL? lol you totally fell for it | ||
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Damn | ||
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edit: I am dumb | ||
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But in the end, Dayshi takes it ! | ||
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On February 27 2018 21:48 LDaVinci wrote: Special, Kelazhur, Snute and Bunny for only one spot. But in the end, Dayshi takes it ! Really good foreigners there and only 1 can make it, actually I wouldn't even mind if Dayshi is the one, I still remember his mas hellions in one of the HSC Snute vs Dayshi really good game 1. TvZ is the most entertaining matchup, it always was, always will be. | ||
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On February 27 2018 22:31 Penev wrote: jacket is coming of! Zerg pressure > jacket off | ||
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he just didn't want any bile on it :/ | ||
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Nationwars.tv/vote | ||
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Major vs Snute is hot | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:30 Ramiz1989 wrote: I haven't watched SC2 for quite some time, just tuned in since I have nothing better to do right now, and it is sad to see year after year that we constantly have these slug fests like this game... I mean, I know there are others nail-biting games that are really exciting, but somehow whenever I watch a tourney majority of games look like this and I just get bored to death. Should avoid Snute vs Terran in the future. | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:30 Ramiz1989 wrote: I haven't watched SC2 for quite some time, just tuned in since I have nothing better to do right now, and it is sad to see year after year that we constantly have these slug fests like this game... I mean, I know there are others nail-biting games that are really exciting, but somehow whenever I watch a tourney majority of games look like this and I just get bored to death. You happened to tune in when two players that are known for always pushing for the late game (Snute especially) are playing. Unlucky break for you I guess. | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:17 Mun_Su wrote: it seems that Dayshi is like french tennisman, he will never do something despite the hype :/ Major vs Snute is hot What hype ? Dayshi has been awful for years now. | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:30 Ramiz1989 wrote: I haven't watched SC2 for quite some time, just tuned in since I have nothing better to do right now, and it is sad to see year after year that we constantly have these slug fests like this game... I mean, I know there are others nail-biting games that are really exciting, but somehow whenever I watch a tourney majority of games look like this and I just get bored to death. Not sure what to say, I quite enjoyed especially the last TvZs.. also Zest had some really agressive PvT, and this last game Snute vs Major was really entertaining and hard for both players. I guess depends on what you expect from the game, I found the games from today really nice. (Dayshi vs Snute game 1 was also really nice). | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:33 Durnuu wrote: What hype ? Dayshi has been awful for years now. Hey but remember that time he was in funny clothes, hungover, and then beat Bomber while drinking more beer? | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:39 Zephyp wrote: Is it just me or are there black bars on the sides and bottom of the stream? For me is looking ok, no bars (watching on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iATPTgZPafM) | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:42 jarodtou wrote: For me is looking ok, no bars (watching on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iATPTgZPafM) It's on Twitch. Didn't realize it was also on YT, but I'll watch there since it doesn't have the bars. Thanks. | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:50 Morbidius wrote: This tvZ lategame meta is ridiculous. It's one of the best that I can remember seeing. Both sides have very powerful ultimate unit comps that counter each other, so it becomes a micro and positioning battle with spell casters mostly. Reminds me a lot of WoL TvP. | ||
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On February 27 2018 23:59 DieuCure wrote: Yes TvZ late game is much better than in 2016 (lolol) and 2017. Parade pushing had it's own charm. There was lots of micro and constant action. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:00 Heartland wrote: Parade pushing had it's own charm. There was lots of micro and constant action. Thing is, that style was more of a "don't let the Zerg get to late game" than it was a true late game style for Terran. This new meta, you can be aggressive with Terran trying to prevent Zerg from teching like traditional TvZ, or you can play for a late game army comp with defensive and positional play. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:03 Vindicare605 wrote: Thing is, that style was more of a "don't let the Zerg get to late game" than it was a true late game style for Terran. This new meta, you can be aggressive with Terran trying to prevent Zerg from teching like traditional TvZ, or you can play for a late game army comp with defensive and positional play. Sure, and the issue was also that there was basically just one style. A healthy (as in, fun to watch) meta has a few major viable styles. I do think that the sort of "break them before they manage to do X"-situation can be a lot of fun as long as it involves lots of action and harassing (rather than WoL pre-BL PvZ timings). | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Ha ha ha, landing the Viking to save it from Parasitic Bomb. Cute. This is actually really nice, I must try this on ladder :D | ||
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when he was in Specials naturalNow it looks grim | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:18 Vindicare605 wrote: After that opening rush, I can't believe Snute managed to lose that. If you're Snute that is a REALLY tough loss. He just doesn't seem to have a killer instinct, he let Terran easily get to 5 bases after that. And even when he got a good fight on hive tech he doesn't seem to be able to push his advantage. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:30 iamho wrote: Top half of group 4 is way too stacked Compared to the bottom one yeah, but both soO and Trap can advance so it's ok. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:28 D-light wrote: Fan favorite Cure going down to Hurricane 0-2. :^( well Hurricane=fastest player on earth.. or so he was around 4-5 years ago, but he always was more like a Sniper, hope the american dude will take him out | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:36 GreatTrash wrote: Harstem 1 - 0 up against soO on b-stream. Should we start already the "Year of Harstem" hype? | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:39 jarodtou wrote: Should we start already the "Year of Harstem" hype? The hype hasn't stopped since the first year of harstem. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:36 Pandain wrote: Special-Bunny is one of those matches where everyone will feel absolutely great if special wins, and absolutely terrible if he loses, with very few people thinking otherwise. Fan-favorite foreigner vs nameless korean Eh, there's certainly a portion of people who aren't fans of Special for different reasons, and will take a nameless and faceless korean terran before him. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:36 Pandain wrote: Special-Bunny is one of those matches where everyone will feel absolutely great if special wins, and absolutely terrible if he loses, with very few people thinking otherwise. Fan-favorite foreigner vs nameless korean Fan favorite vs the white guy that spent entire proleague season getting hazed in proleague | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:36 Pandain wrote: Special-Bunny is one of those matches where everyone will feel absolutely great if special wins, and absolutely terrible if he loses, with very few people thinking otherwise. Fan-favorite foreigner vs nameless korean His name is Bunny?? | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:36 Pandain wrote: Special-Bunny is one of those matches where everyone will feel absolutely great if special wins, and absolutely terrible if he loses, with very few people thinking otherwise. Fan-favorite foreigner vs nameless korean Absolutely not. Special is the nameless one out of the two. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: Absolutely not. Special is the nameless one out of the two. I wouldn't call him nameless | ||
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That's the one thing he has more than enough of. | ||
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Hmm... | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:54 DieuCure wrote: Cure outplaying Kas Wow EU get your shit together. | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Guten Morgen. What has been up so far today Katowice ain't german. ;f Zest is BEST. In his bracket at least. | ||
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Well if you change it every few days do you really have a name? | ||
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On February 28 2018 00:58 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well if you change it every few days do you really have a name? Shapeless, the Windy Princess | ||
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What are you doing, Bunny? Hmm... | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:00 D-light wrote: Expand more, Bunny? What are you doing, Bunny? Hmm... Just stomping some faceless foreigner | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:05 OsaX Nymloth wrote: The only way to make TvT entertaining I guess Bullshit ties for the win. Or Bunny I guess. | ||
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THE BUNJWA BUNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYY | ||
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One more Bunny! | ||
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At this rate the Round of 24 will have maybe 6 foreigners at most. | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:08 Vindicare605 wrote: It's starting to look like a foreigner massacre today. Bracket 4 is looking pretty Korean dominated. At this rate the Round of 24 will have maybe 6 foreigners at most. #gap is closed #gap is closed #gap is closed #gap is closed | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:08 Vindicare605 wrote: It's starting to look like a foreigner massacre today. Bracket 4 is looking pretty Korean dominated. At this rate the Round of 24 will have maybe 6 foreigners at most. Already 6 in ro24 (Elazer, Nerchio, uThermal and Showtime from server qualifiers, Serral and Heromarine from offline qualifiers) | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:12 DBooN wrote: What the hell did I come home to, why is soO losing?! Suboptimal play. | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:11 D-light wrote: Already 6 in ro24 (Elazer, Nerchio, uThermal and Showtime from server qualifiers, Serral and Heromarine from offline qualifiers) Oh my bad I forgot Elazer. Well then maybe 7 at the rate this is going. 8 tops which I guess wouldn't be THAT bad 33% representation. | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:13 Diabolique wrote: The year of Harstem again? Again for the sixth or seventh year in a row somehow! | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:15 Ej_ wrote: If mizenhauer kills himself, who will write GSL recaps? His ghost. | ||
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starkiller123
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On February 28 2018 00:42 D-light wrote: Eh, there's certainly a portion of people who aren't fans of Special for different reasons, and will take a nameless and faceless korean terran before him. I want Bunny to win, not a fan of Special | ||
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Ansibled
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On February 28 2018 01:15 Ej_ wrote: If mizenhauer kills himself, who will write GSL recaps? soO | ||
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Nakajin
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The articles will saddly only be second best | ||
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Diabolique
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On February 28 2018 01:15 D-light wrote: Again for the sixth or seventh year in a row somehow! He is just sooooO good! | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:24 Nakajin wrote: The articles will saddly only be second best Every article will be the best ever writen except for the final recap, it will be shit | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
Were they good games or just some lame cheesefest series? | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:28 Fyzar wrote: Sweet, come back home to see my boy Harstem has beaten soO! Were they good games or just some lame cheesefest series? soO cheesed and lost | ||
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Penev
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Fyzar
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Ahh gotcha, not a great series then I assume? | ||
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On February 28 2018 01:35 Fango wrote: Special can't lose this at this point Never underestimate foreigners' ability to throw mate. | ||
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Penev
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who's next!? | ||
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ihatevideogames
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:44 Penev wrote: first mizenhauer now rip duurnu who's next!? The people of the united states. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:46 StarscreamG1 wrote: Kind of off topic but, Is the winner really getting 150k? o_O Yes. Of 400k prize pool | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:46 HolydaKing wrote: Wow, just saw what happened in last few hours. Only one of Neeb and soO will advance. O.o Perfect. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
Neither one will, ez lower bracket for Losira. | ||
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leublix
493 Posts
On February 28 2018 00:36 Pandain wrote: Special-Bunny is one of those matches where everyone will feel absolutely great if special wins, and absolutely terrible if he loses, with very few people thinking otherwise. Fan-favorite foreigner vs nameless korean Bunny How many times now has Neeb lost to Hurricane in some kind of qualifier? | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:51 leublix wrote: Bunny How many times now has Neeb lost to Hurricane in some kind of qualifier? 3 http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Neeb 4495 Hurricane 68&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 28 2018 00:36 Pandain wrote: Special-Bunny is one of those matches where everyone will feel absolutely great if special wins, and absolutely terrible if he loses, with very few people thinking otherwise. Fan-favorite foreigner vs nameless korean Bunny is probably one of the best personalities in the korean scene right now. He just doesn't get much of a chance to show it because he never does well in tournaments. | ||
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SplattedOne
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On February 28 2018 01:51 Durnuu wrote: 3 http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Neeb 4495 Hurricane 68&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= What's hilarious is that Aligulac still gives Neeb a 75% chance of beating Hurricane in a best of 3 despite him never doing so. | ||
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leublix
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On February 28 2018 01:51 Durnuu wrote: 3 http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Neeb 4495 Hurricane 68&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Thanks. Finally the Protoss bracket is here. Hoping for Trap, Harstem and Hurricane (like) or Neeb (more potential for interesting matches against non P). | ||
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DieuCure
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:54 Fango wrote: Bunny is probably one of the best personalities in the korean scene right now. He just doesn't get much of a chance to show it because he never does well in tournaments. Is he a newer player? I don't really remember him. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:54 DieuCure wrote: Cure is so unlucky. Don't worry he will win code s next season | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Is he a newer player? I don't really remember him. I remember Bunny vs Bunny confusion so he has played for long time. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
ive been saying since the beginning of lotv that because the game is mechanically harder now people are going to incorrectly see games like this as "sloppy" when in reality even the highest level players are doing too much to execute everything crisply | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:56 The_Red_Viper wrote: Don't worry he will win code s next season I hope so | ||
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Ej_
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On February 28 2018 01:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Is he a newer player? I don't really remember him. No, he played for CJ Entus in proleague | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:58 brickrd wrote: i don't think bunny threw that game, to me a throw is when you should naturally win assuming you play the game out standard but instead you mess up from a favorable position. I'd say it's also a throw if you walk into 5 siege tanks and a liberator and a game goes from "you have a slight advantage" to "you're absolutely dead now" | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 02:03 Fango wrote: You don't have to be miles ahead to throw a game. Being in a good position and then making one bad decision that loses everything is a throw Especially when it's really really bad one decision. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On February 28 2018 01:54 Fango wrote: Bunny is probably one of the best personalities in the korean scene right now. He just doesn't get much of a chance to show it because he never does well in tournaments. Yeah I really hope Bunny can find some success this year | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 28 2018 02:03 Saggymidgetbooty6969 wrote: which stream had losira vs trap? Match is over, Trap won | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
Oh yeah, now I remember. | ||
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Saggymidgetbooty6969
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yeah i know, want to watch vod but dunno which stream | ||
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On February 28 2018 02:22 usopsama wrote: Fucking Bunny. Zoophilia is against the law | ||
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Elentos
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On February 28 2018 02:25 iamho wrote: Harstem looks like an evil version of Rotterdam Wat | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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soO may be a ZvZ god but Losira's always got his bag of crazy shit | ||
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Ej_
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On February 28 2018 02:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ofc Losira knocks out soO. soO may be a ZvZ god but Losira's always got his bag of crazy shit my bet is that it was an awful series and soo just roach to some random roach all-ins | ||
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All good Jin Air players are in the tournament! | ||
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D-light
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On February 28 2018 02:51 Charoisaur wrote: koreans are just superior at disruptor wars They have finally closed that gap. | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
Dark and Maru are still the most reliable foreigner-killers. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On February 28 2018 02:52 Diabolique wrote: TRAP!!! All good Jin Air players are in the tournament! Yeah even TRUE made it | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
fuck | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 28 2018 02:57 D-light wrote: Let's go Ragnarok! Yeah i am also a big ragnarok fan | ||
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On February 28 2018 02:59 vult wrote: wowow im so surprised Neeb won that! Never doubt the power of lasers. | ||
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Singapore3054 Posts
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usopsama
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I was going to deport TRUE back to foreignerland, but somehow, miraculously, he advanced. | ||
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vult
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On February 28 2018 03:00 sudete wrote: neeb looking off today, harstem has a really good chance imo Neeb is a god in disruptor wars in PvP though | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:01 usopsama wrote: I was going to deport TRUE back to foreignerland, but somehow, miraculously, he advanced. We just need him to win this super hard, and then he'll be the #1 in everyone's hearts. | ||
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Durnuu
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On February 28 2018 03:02 Penev wrote: I want a Losira interview He doesn't have a face tho. I think we should have another Scarlett interview. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:02 Penev wrote: I want a Losira interview And maybe more pics. Preferably of him with his arms around a body pillow, so we finally know who the REAL best girl is.. | ||
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Penev
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On February 28 2018 03:03 Durnuu wrote: He doesn't have a face tho. I think we should have another Scarlett interview. With that voice you don't need a face my ovaries :o | ||
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Zaros
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On February 28 2018 03:00 sudete wrote: neeb looking off today, harstem has a really good chance imo Think neeb has looked off since blizzcon doesnt seem to be his early-mid 2017 self | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:04 Penev wrote: With that voice you don't need a face my ovaries :o Just win him with your feminine charm. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On February 28 2018 03:10 Fango wrote: If losira doesn't qualify after knocking out a top 2 Zerg i'm gonna be the saltiest yet. I love soO but his play today wasn't inspiring at all Didn't see the match vs losira though | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:05 Fango wrote: Wtf happened to soO? Was he just playing badly? GSL Ro8 curse, it's claimed 3 now | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Another really dedicated player that keeps working hard despite not having a huge fanbase or any great results. Hopefully it will pay off sooner or later. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote: Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D Marco = economy. Zest typically has more money in his bank than anyone else. Therefore Zest is macro protoss. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:13 intotheheart wrote: Marco = economy. Zest typically has more money in his bank than anyone else. Therefore Zest is macro protoss. makes sense | ||
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sneakyfox
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On February 28 2018 03:13 intotheheart wrote: Marco = economy. Zest typically has more money in his bank than anyone else. Therefore Zest is macro protoss. seems legit | ||
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Ej_
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Polo = control | ||
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intotheheart
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:13 intotheheart wrote: Marco = economy. Zest typically has more money in his bank than anyone else. Therefore Zest is macro protoss. This is accurate. | ||
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pvsnp
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Zest is that one paranoid guy who puts all his money under his mattress instead of investing in assets. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:13 Musicus wrote: Trap going through is nice, but I'm somehow even more happy for Hurricane. Another really dedicated player that keeps working hard despite not having a huge fanbase or any great results. Hopefully it will pay off sooner or later. if only Bunny had managed to advance as well | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote: Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser. | ||
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Ej_
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On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote: That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser. Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:21 Fango wrote: Should I feel bad for soO or mizenhauer? soO | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:21 Fango wrote: Should I feel bad for soO or mizenhauer? Better to fail than get 2nd So Mizen | ||
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intotheheart
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On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote: Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds. Don't need builds when you're handsome. | ||
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Ej_
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On February 28 2018 03:25 Charoisaur wrote: Patience vs Losira is painful to watch.. It's the Blaze vs Sleep of modern times. | ||
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Malongo
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Penev
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On February 28 2018 03:27 starkiller123 wrote: are they going to draw the players into groups today after the games? I'm already looking forward to the glorious rigging | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote: Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds. That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more? | ||
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sneakyfox
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On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote: That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser. There are other options. I mean Zest relies much more on unit control than macro, and he rarely goes for the big macro-lategame. Sometimes he even stops macroing altogether... | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:28 sneakyfox wrote: There are other options. I mean Zest relies much more on unit control than macro, and he rarely goes for the big macro-lategame. Sometimes he even stops macroing altogether... #ZestMacro | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:27 Penev wrote: I'm already looking forward to the glorious rigging Group of 6 zerg somehow. | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:28 sneakyfox wrote: There are other options. I mean Zest relies much more on unit control than macro, and he rarely goes for the big macro-lategame. Sometimes he even stops macroing altogether... "sometimes" | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:28 sneakyfox wrote: There are other options. I mean Zest relies much more on unit control than macro, and he rarely goes for the big macro-lategame. Sometimes he even stops macroing altogether... He floats money midgame, but that doesn't make him not a macro player. I disagree he relies more on control, it's his game management that wins games. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote: That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more? That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote: That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good Bisu is hotter than Zest. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:32 youngjiddle wrote: soO looking rough.. good luck vs. scarlett when you lost 2-0 to Losira haha. Scarlett lost 2-0 to Guru, so she's not doing much better. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote: That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good It's hard to look good AND revolutionize PvZ. You'd have to be HerO. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:32 youngjiddle wrote: soO looking rough.. good luck vs. scarlett when you lost 2-0 to Losira haha. lmao i mean Scarlett lost to Guru and TRUE, i think she has more to worry about than soO does | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:33 Durnuu wrote: Scarlett lost 2-0 to Guru, so she's not doing much better. Losing to a Polish Zerg is inevitable, they're always coming to ruin your day. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote: Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on. You're so gay. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote: That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more? I meant for all 3 matchups. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote: Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on. What's up heartbro? | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:33 Olli wrote: It's hard to look good AND revolutionize PvZ. You'd have to be HerO. I expect like 6-7 hours for the Zest history video btw | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Not a lot, trying to figure out an assignment. What about you? | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:35 The_Red_Viper wrote: I expect like 6-7 hours for the Zest history video btw HerO honestly impacted the metagame a lot more than Zest ever did. I'd argue more than anyone else. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:36 Ej_ wrote: What we learned this IEM is that GSL is fucking worthless compared to a WCS. Apollo must be so proud of his work | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:36 intotheheart wrote: Not a lot, trying to figure out an assignment. What about you? Paying bills. Watching Starcraft. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote: Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on. Bisu is incredibly overrated + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://liquipedia.net/commons/images/c/c8/Bisu-LP-MLG20120609-222817.jpg) | ||
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Ej_
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On February 28 2018 03:36 Olli wrote: HerO honestly impacted the metagame a lot more than Zest ever did. I'd argue more than anyone else. He probably just took Mvp's builds. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:37 The_Red_Viper wrote: Bisu is incredibly overrated + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/568117864595337216/ILRcYxuM.jpeg) | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
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Durnuu
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On February 28 2018 03:39 Seeker wrote: IIRC, it is not possible to pick up an archon if it's still morphing, correct? Correct. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
The haircut is mvp on this picture tbh, other than that... | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:40 Fanatic-Templar wrote: I see the Mondragon Counter still works. Always has, always will | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:39 Seeker wrote: IIRC, it is not possible to pick up an archon if it's still morphing, correct? and you can't cancel the morph either | ||
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Penev
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:41 Penev wrote: I feel like I'm in the Nada's body thread Shame we ran out of material on that one. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:41 Penev wrote: I feel like I'm in the Nada's body thread NaDa is like way better looking than Bisu, don't insult the Otter Terran | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4MxFkpU.jpg) Even more beautiful than watching Zergs die to laz0rs. | ||
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Die4Ever
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Penev
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On February 28 2018 03:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: NaDa is like way better looking than Bisu, don't insult the Otter Terran report me | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:39 Seeker wrote: IIRC, it is not possible to pick up an archon if it's still morphing, correct? yea, you can't pick up any temporary/transforming units, which are technically the same thing in the game code | ||
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D-light
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On February 28 2018 03:47 Ej_ wrote: One of these players 2-0d soO. The one who is losing this right after that. ffs | ||
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Heartland
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chipmonklord17
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:52 Penev wrote: my interview :/ You still have your body pillows. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:52 chipmonklord17 wrote: I was too busy buying Chrono Trigger, how did Losira lose this Wall > lings | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
But he broke the wall a couple of times no? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:55 chipmonklord17 wrote: But he broke the wall a couple of times no? he ran out of units before oracles ran out of energy | ||
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D-light
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On February 28 2018 03:55 chipmonklord17 wrote: But he broke the wall a couple of times no? Doesn't matter when it's a never-ending wall. | ||
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Xamo
Spain880 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:53 sneakyfox wrote: And Patience will be stomped as soon as he plays a strong opponent. Like Harstem or Neeb, or you mean stronger? | ||
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AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
edit: looks like main bracket is perfectly balanced 8/8/8 | ||
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Waxangel
United States33389 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:59 AUGcodon wrote: Almost perfect balance coming from these 2 days, 5t, 3z, and 4p edit: looks like main bracket is perfectly balanced 8/8/8 ooooo | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
Praise DK! | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:02 Mike L wrote: so at day 2 from one bracket all protoss advanced and in another one Snute divorced the perfect balance for not making it you could say he performed a force choke | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Three Terrans yesterday. Then three Zergs yesterday. Now three Protosses. | ||
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buffzerg33
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
I mean stronger. But yeah, he could lose to one of those two as well. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:06 buffzerg33 wrote: So how they add those guys to the group stage? Bracket A goes to group A etc? No. Groups are getting drawn. | ||
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buffzerg33
96 Posts
Thx bro. Thats awsome!!! When? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
That just means they'll get rigged lol | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
If we get 6 zergs in group C would that be evidence of rigging or evidence against? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Am I high or is this really happening | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote: If we get 6 zergs in group C would that be evidence of rigging or evidence against? Yes Although why they choose to have a ZvZ group be the first thing the audience sees is beyond me. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
hmm | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
You mean Michael Scipione | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:06 Diabolique wrote: What is this balance? Three Terrans yesterday. Then three Zergs yesterday. Now three Protosses. 8 protoss 8 zerg 8 terran We are blessed. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Praise Scippy! | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
There's only one logical conclusion. Tesagi. | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:16 D-light wrote: What is this shit? depends are you looking into your toilet? | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
Excuse me but his name is SetGuitarsToKim | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:20 Elentos wrote: Excuse me but his name is SetGuitarsToKim This is my favorite meme | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16710 Posts
great event so far. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
!@# | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:24 Seeker wrote: !@#? How is your son? | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Yes. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
If it's clogged you should check for archons | ||
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Heartland
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Ej_
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B U I LD O R D ER | ||
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D-light
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argonautdice
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Doesn't matter I guess. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:31 D-light wrote: Make another pylon neeb? tasteless and artosis dont need help | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
do it for yurop | ||
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sneakyfox
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Heartland
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Amazing game | ||
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D-light
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HolydaKing
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vult
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:32 Nakajin wrote: Lazors on lazors on lazors on lazors Amazing game EVERYBODY DANCE NOW! | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Had only one for a while there. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:32 sneakyfox wrote: Harstems void ray control has been quite bad Yep, he threw it with a decision to hit'n'run with stalkers vs zealots, instead should've been micro voidrays (it was something around 2 stalkers and 1 centry vs 2 voidrays) and it would be over for neeb | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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leublix
493 Posts
Can't we just rename him to David Kim II. | ||
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GreatTrash
24 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:30 argonautdice wrote: every single 3rd place qualifying match is a mirror matchup It's a ploy to quiet the balance whiners. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:35 leublix wrote: Can't we just rename him to David Kim II. Do you want him to become worse at his job? | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Do you want him to become worse at his job? You're doing a great job man, don't worry about it. | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:41 Heartland wrote: You're doing a great job man, don't worry about it. those ravens tho | ||
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AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:49 AUGcodon wrote: Just got into the scene again recently, whos david kim's replacement? One of TL:s finest! | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
But is he the undefeated Battle Report Champion? I think not. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:49 AUGcodon wrote: Just got into the scene again recently, whos david kim's replacement? Michael Scipione | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:51 Heartland wrote: So no IEM tomorrow, or? Yeah tomorrow is off. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33389 Posts
Slob Americans with open jackets  | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:54 Waxangel wrote: Suave Europeans buttoning their coat jackets Slob Americans with open jackets What is it with Americans and not knowing how to dress anyway? | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Minus the glorious play of the master, of course | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Penev
28481 Posts
patience | ||
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Poopi
France12883 Posts
Pls Neeb don't do a Scarlett | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:03 sneakyfox wrote: This is starting to remind me of that one time where the entire GSL group was made of protoss Minus the glorious play of the master, of course Ah yes that one time last week. | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Seeing all these pvp's tonight, it's almost like there has never been played anything but pvp | ||
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MASTERCAKES
United States127 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:34 vult wrote: Neeb will beat Patience for sure. I hope so. Patience took a game off of PvP God hurricane | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:06 sneakyfox wrote: Seeing all these pvp's tonight, it's almost like there has never been played anything but pvp Still better than the ZvZ fest of yesterday | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
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Penev
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
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AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
I mean lol Patience | ||
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Netherlands30548 Posts
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United States12989 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Permanent invisible units xD It's okay because it was in BW though | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Heartland
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:15 Heartland wrote: Patience somehow looks as if he should be a Star Wars character. yeah no kidding, dude could be selling information on the location of darth vaders corpse for 2 thousand credits | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:16 Ej_ wrote: yeah no kidding, dude could be selling information on the location of darth vaders corpse for 2 thousand credits Or possibly make some sort of weird noise while sitting in a bar with his buddy, the huge yellow and blue brute. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:20 Heartland wrote: Or possibly make some sort of weird noise while sitting in a bar with his buddy, the huge yellow and blue brute. That's a crude way to speak of iloveoov. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:16 Ej_ wrote: yeah no kidding, dude could be selling information on the location of darth vaders corpse for 2 thousand credits For some death sticks | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Heartland
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:26 Heartland wrote: Neeb Skywalker slices of another guys hands in a cantina. That was Obi-Wan | ||
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Durnuu
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
We have pretty much all the best foreigners(except Snute and Scarlett) versus all the best Koreans (minus soO/Stats) | ||
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franzji
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:29 DieuCure wrote: Lol PvP isnt really interesting, both had 20 zealots jiggling behind and one won the fight because you know he had a little more That's just because they didn't make Disruptors. Disruptors are awesome. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
Also perfect balance 8/8/8 of each race in RO24 | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
Yes, but now we are talking about Neeb who's got Luke's hair. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Penev
28481 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:33 Heartland wrote: Yes, but now we are talking about Neeb who's got Luke's hair. that's Snute | ||
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United States12989 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So we get a PvT and a PvZ group to determine balance .Seems reasonable that Protoss would be trusted to determine balance. They have the Arbiters. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
 ShoWTimE GuMihoDearMaruTYMajOrGROUP B: uThermal DarkINnoVationHurricaneSolarTRUEGROUP C: ImpactRogueNerchioSerralZestNeebGROUP D: ElazerClassicsOsTrapHeRoMaRinERyungRIP UTHERMAL | ||
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DieuCure
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Think Snute has the ability to use the Force? | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
meh it got fixed | ||
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pvsnp
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Poopi
France12883 Posts
Very nice. Kinda sucks that they managed to have group A and C tho (didn't see if it was random) | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:38 sneakyfox wrote: I guess the groups are fairly even. B and D were way stronger before adding the new players. A and C definitely got the strongest players from the qualifiers. So it evens out. Group C is Code A | ||
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franzji
United States583 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:29 DieuCure wrote: Lol PvP isnt really interesting, both had 20 zealots jiggling behind and one won the fight because you know he had a little more I don't get stupid comments like this. PvP is the most interesting mirror matchup though (but TvT has gotten better too). Making a comment like "one won the fight because he had a little more" is ironic because it sounds like you're talking about zvz roach vs roach. Except in PvP there's tons of ways to get ahead and many openers that might end at a strong zealot charge army... | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:39 youngjiddle wrote: I don't get stupid comments like this. PvP is the most interesting mirror matchup though (but TvT has gotten better too). Making a comment like "one won the fight because he had a little more" is ironic because it sounds like you're talking about zvz roach vs roach. Except in PvP there's tons of ways to get ahead and many openers that might end at a strong zealot charge army... Welcome to DieuCure's posting! | ||
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Germany1042 Posts
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sneakyfox
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
These groups are stacked. Wait until the bottom half are eliminated and we are left with just 12 in brackets. | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
rigged again | ||
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engesser1
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:37 Penev wrote: uthermal got fucked again I see Why? He has a decent shot to get 3rd. Special got fucked much more. Group D is hilariously weak. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:41 Penev wrote: The supposedly strongest foreigners got the easiest group rigged again No no it's totally random | ||
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ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:41 sneakyfox wrote: Does anyone know how the groups are paired in the brackets for the knockout phase? Or is it going to be a draw? you can look at last years tournament. had the same format. so might be the same bracket | ||
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buffzerg33
96 Posts
Rest groups are stacked AF | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:41 Penev wrote: The supposedly strongest foreigners got the easiest group rigged again Nerchio and Serral, right? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:41 sneakyfox wrote: Does anyone know how the groups are paired in the brackets for the knockout phase? Or is it going to be a draw? Yeah. Another draw with people finishing in first place in the groups going into the quarter finals, and people finishing 2nd and 3rd in the Ro12. Additional restriction that you can't face someone from your group in quarter finals, and each number 2 finisher is paired with a number 3 finisher from a different group or something like that. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
My picks: Group A: Maru/TY/Gumiho. Dear didn't look good in his last GSL group, Showtime and Special are outclassed in this group IMO. Tough draw for them, getting 3 of the 4 horsemen in their group. Group B: Dark/Innovation/Hurricane or Solar. Group C: Zest/Rogue/Impact Zest and Rogue have pedigree. Impact looked outrageously strong when he qualified over all of the other contestants in the Korean qualifiers. Group D: sOs/Classic/Trap The Protoss players in this group are just stronger than the opposition, however Elazer can be a definite dark horse. He looked really good at Pyeongchang, maybe can show some more of that form. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
Elazer and Heromarine | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:42 Charoisaur wrote: Why? He has a decent shot to get 3rd. Special got fucked much more. Group D is hilariously weak. being fucked less doesn't mean not being fucked at all anyway korean wise group C is the weakest | ||
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franzji
United States583 Posts
I forget too often to not expect so much out of TL posters when discussing Protoss lol. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:36 DieuCure wrote: Group C is here just to get a foreigner through the ro12, r*gged On February 28 2018 05:39 DieuCure wrote: Group C is Code A Tell us how you really feel, pls. On February 28 2018 05:41 Penev wrote: The supposedly strongest foreigners got the easiest group rigged again Dunno how many consider Nerchio and neeb to be the very strongest atm. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah. Another draw with people finishing in first place in the groups going into the quarter finals, and people finishing 2nd and 3rd in the Ro12. Additional restriction that you can't face someone from your group in quarter finals, and each number 2 finisher is paired with a number 3 finisher from a different group or something like that. great thanks! | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
You mean the group rigging mafia cares about something other than rigging the bracket against Cure? | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
ZigguratOfUr, you can not deny the fact that Cure is unlucky between the GSL qualifiers and his IEM bracket | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:46 D-light wrote: Tell us how you really feel, pls. Dunno how many consider Nerchio and neeb to be the very strongest atm. Neeb at ESL rigging headquarters? A lot | ||
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intotheheart
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Durnuu
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On February 28 2018 05:50 DieuCure wrote: But now we can dream of a final Maru vs TY ZigguratOfUr, you can not deny the fact that Cure is unlucky between the GSL qualifiers and his IEM bracket Yeah playing LosirA and Billowy is real unlucky lmao | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Maru, TY and GuMiho Group B: INnoVation, Dark and SolarGroup C: Serral, Neeb and Impact/Rogue/ZestGroup D: Classic, sOs and Trap/Elazer | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:52 Durnuu wrote: Yeah playing LosirA and Billowy is real unlucky lmao Day 1 he had toughest opponents. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
TY, Maru, GuMihoGroup B: Dark, INnoVation, SolarGroup C: Serral, Zest, NeebGroup D: Classic, sOs, ElazerPerfect balance maintains to RO12. | ||
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United States16071 Posts
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HolydaKing
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ShoWTimE, TY, DearB: Dark, INnoVation, SolarC: Serral, Zest, NeebD: Classic, sOs, HeRoMaRinE | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Put TY, Maru, or Innovation in group C and I wouldn't be suprised if they went10-0 | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:42 Charoisaur wrote: Why? He has a decent shot to get 3rd. Special got fucked much more. Group D is hilariously weak. How does he have a decent shot at getting 3rd? His chances at beating even one of Dark, Solar or INnoVation are incredibly slim. | ||
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franzji
United States583 Posts
My picks: Group A: Showtime/Special/Dear, Gumiho didn't look good in his last GSL group, TY and Maru are outclassed in this group IMO. Tough draw for them, getting 3 of the many foreigner gods in their group. Group B: Uthermal/True/Hurricane Group C: Nerchio/Serral/Neeb Neeb and Serral have pedigree. Nerchio looked outrageously strong when he qualified over all of the other contestants in the WCS qualifiers. Group D: Elazer/Heromarine/Ryung The foreigner players in this group are just stronger than the opposition, however Trap can be a definite dark horse. He looked really good at Pyeongchang, maybe can show some more of that form. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
Though it's fun to see foreigners getting embarassed in longer series so it may be okay if some sneak through. | ||
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Poopi
France12883 Posts
On February 28 2018 06:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: How does he have a decent shot at getting 3rd? His chances at beating even one of Dark, Solar or INnoVation are incredibly slim. Isn't he positive against INno? | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
No. But he beat him at Katowice last year with proxies. So maybe he can repeat Group A blows hard | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:45 Vindicare605 wrote: So let's see. My picks: Group A: Maru/TY/Gumiho. Dear didn't look good in his last GSL group, Showtime and Special are outclassed in this group IMO. Tough draw for them, getting 3 of the 4 horsemen in their group. Group B: Dark/Innovation/Hurricane or Solar. Group C: Zest/Rogue/Impact Zest and Rogue have pedigree. Impact looked outrageously strong when he qualified over all of the other contestants in the Korean qualifiers. Group D: sOs/Classic/Trap The Protoss players in this group are just stronger than the opposition, however Elazer can be a definite dark horse. He looked really good at Pyeongchang, maybe can show some more of that form. i like this prediction | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
Me too. | ||
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Avicularia
540 Posts
On February 28 2018 06:34 Charoisaur wrote: If Zest gets his shit together the KR only ro12 dream can become true. Though it's fun to see foreigners getting embarassed in longer series so it may be okay if some sneak through. And why exactly is that fun? | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
Don't kink-shame him. | ||
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pvsnp
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Kalera
United States338 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On February 28 2018 06:34 Charoisaur wrote: If Zest gets his shit together the KR only ro12 dream can become true. Though it's fun to see foreigners getting embarassed in longer series so it may be okay if some sneak through. Whose dream is that exactly? I'm pretty sure that most people would prefer not to see a KR only Ro12. | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On February 28 2018 07:32 Seeker wrote: Whose dream is that exactly? I'm pretty sure that most people would prefer not to see a KR only Ro12. Most people prefer a KR only Ro12. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Where's the poll? | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 28 2018 07:32 Seeker wrote: Whose dream is that exactly? I'm pretty sure that most people would prefer not to see a KR only Ro12. Did you make the draw ? | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
Come again? | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
group C is a joke. Group A : TY - Maru - Major Group B : Dark - INno - Solar Group C : Neeb - Impact - Serral Group D: Classic - sOs - Elazer | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
Poll: How do you feel about Koreans vs foreigners? Watching Koreans destroy foreigners brings me unspeakable joy. (19) Watching foreigners lose to the Korean master race makes me disturbingly butt-hurt. (6) 25 total votes Your vote: How do you feel about Koreans vs foreigners? (Vote): Watching Koreans destroy foreigners brings me unspeakable joy. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 28 2018 07:32 Seeker wrote: Whose dream is that exactly? I'm pretty sure that most people would prefer not to see a KR only Ro12. My personal dream is the exact top 12 players being the ro12. It just so happens they are all korean, but if Serral or Neeb prove they are on that level then power to them | ||
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Avicularia
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Topin
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ShoCkeyy
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 28 2018 08:49 Topin wrote: any game i must watch? i dont think i will have the time to watch everything I enjoyed Harstem vs. Trap, depending on how much you like PvP. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On February 28 2018 09:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote: I enjoyed Harstem vs. Trap, depending on how much you like PvP. Dayshi vs Snute had a first good game. Stats vs Maru was good, a little "camping" but with late game composition and clever use of all the tools at the disposal of the races. Zest vs Bunny was good; SpeCial vs Snute and Special vs Bunny also really good. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 28 2018 08:49 Topin wrote: any game i must watch? i dont think i will have the time to watch everything Cure vs Kas TvT Matchup | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Edit: Nevermind, someone just asked it! | ||
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Canada5819 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On February 28 2018 08:33 Avicularia wrote: TL is so toxic with all this foreigner hate... I have no idea where does it come from but it is seriously very lame. blame brood war, its been around since then. Plus koreans are better lol | ||
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nick00bot
326 Posts
On February 28 2018 08:33 Avicularia wrote: TL is so toxic with all this foreigner hate... I have no idea where does it come from but it is seriously very lame. It's mostly Usopama and Charosieur that are really toxic about it, it's just that they make up like 8% of all TL posts in this the Tourneys channel lol | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On February 28 2018 13:09 nick00bot wrote: It's mostly Usopama and Charosieur that are really toxic about it, it's just that they make up like 8% of all TL posts in this the Tourneys channel lol 8% is oddly specific......did you run the math on that or something? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 13:09 nick00bot wrote: It's mostly Usopama and Charosieur that are really toxic about it, it's just that they make up like 8% of all TL posts in this the Tourneys channel lol I just need to balance out the blatant foreigner favouritism that is so common in this community. I never got the concept of cheering for players just because they're white. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On February 28 2018 14:50 Charoisaur wrote: I just need to balance out the blatant foreigner favouritism that is so common in this community. I never got the concept of cheering for players just because they're white. Masa's Korean you know...Has is Taiwanese...TIME is Chinese.... The blatant foreigner favouritism? If anything people favour Koreans. I understand not liking the foreigner bias, but I don't actively rooting against foreigners because they're foreigners. When people cheer for Neeb or Scarlett or Serral, they're cheering for those players to do well, but they're not cheering for soO or Innovation or TY to fail. | ||
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GreatTrash
24 Posts
On February 28 2018 14:50 Charoisaur wrote: I just need to balance out the blatant foreigner favouritism that is so common in this community. I never got the concept of cheering for players just because they're white. But you got the concept of hating players just because they're white down very well. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 14:55 FrkFrJss wrote: Masa's Korean you know...Has is Taiwanese...TIME is Chinese.... The blatant foreigner favouritism? If anything people favour Koreans. I understand not liking the foreigner bias, but I don't get hating foreigners for being foreigners. Wasn't foreigner favouritism the reason the WCS system was introduced? Because people wanted to see white guys winning? I don't hate foreigners lol. I just don't really care for them, I find the foreign scene very boring. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 28 2018 14:50 Charoisaur wrote: I just need to balance out the blatant foreigner favouritism that is so common in this community. I never got the concept of cheering for players just because they're white. "People are unfairly biased towards foreign players, so I should be prejudiced against them to make things even." Yeah ok that definitely sounds logical. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On February 28 2018 15:01 Charoisaur wrote: Wasn't foreigner favouritism the reason the WCS system was introduced? Because people wanted to see white guys winning? I don't hate foreigners lol. I just don't really care for them, I find the foreign scene very boring. No, it was because both the EU and AM scenes were dying. It wasn't healthy for the global scene if the foreigners couldn't be competitive because unlike BW, the majority of people watching were not Koreans. Also, again, you realize that the entire foreign Asian Starcraft 2 scene is....not white, right? Also a large chunk of the SA and Mexican scene are not white. What exactly do you find boring about the foreigner scene? Their playstyle? Do you remember Rain playing? He wasn't exactly the most exciting guy to watch? Their personality? I mean...foreigners have avilo. He's more than enough personality for the entire scene combined. Storylines? I mean Neeb being a highschooler and then being the first foreigner to win a Korean SC2 tournament. | ||
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engesser1
264 Posts
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buffzerg33
96 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 28 2018 16:05 FrkFrJss wrote: No, it was because both the EU and AM scenes were dying. It wasn't healthy for the global scene if the foreigners couldn't be competitive because unlike BW, the majority of people watching were not Koreans. Also, again, you realize that the entire foreign Asian Starcraft 2 scene is....not white, right? Also a large chunk of the SA and Mexican scene are not white. What exactly do you find boring about the foreigner scene? Their playstyle? Do you remember Rain playing? He wasn't exactly the most exciting guy to watch? Their personality? I mean...foreigners have avilo. He's more than enough personality for the entire scene combined. Storylines? I mean Neeb being a highschooler and then being the first foreigner to win a Korean SC2 tournament. And now is the Korean scene rising above everything and more lively than ever. And foreigners are not taking their money while Koreans are banned from WCS. /s | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
but it's not foreigner hate, the player I really like happens to be mostly koreans (playstyle or personnality); I really like Snute, Major and I support french player but Koreans are just more likeable imo. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 16:47 deacon.frost wrote: And now is the Korean scene rising above everything and more lively than ever. And foreigners are not taking their money while Koreans are banned from WCS. /s And it haa nothing to do with the Korean matchfizing scandal and the Korean sponsors and KeSPA leaving SC2 behind, right :o? | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On February 28 2018 17:25 Ej_ wrote: And it haa nothing to do with the Korean matchfizing scandal and the Korean sponsors and KeSPA leaving SC2 behind, right :o? Everyone knows Apollo killed the korean scene. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On February 28 2018 17:04 Mun_Su wrote: Foreigner whined so loudly that they can now take Korean monney in GSL while competiting in WCS (hello scarlett) and Korean just have gsl and global events. Yeah it's been a while but it still struck in my throat but it's not foreigner hate, the player I really like happens to be mostly koreans (playstyle or personnality); I really like Snute, Major and I support french player but Koreans are just more likeable imo. I mean, that's a fair opinion. If you just happen to like the Koreans more, then that's that. I will say, though, that in the two years of WCS EU and AM, all six tournaments were won by Koreans, this in addition to having WCS Korea for those two years, and foreigners were a small percentage of the ro8. I feel like Koreans living in Korea and then coming to America and then leaving was not what Blizzard had in mind. Hi Pigbaby. So, to talk about foreigners coming and taking the GSL money while also taking the foreign money is interesting seeing as Koreans have been doing it for years, and the same people didn't say anything about it. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 17:36 FrkFrJss wrote: So, to talk about foreigners coming and taking the GSL money while also taking the foreign money is interesting seeing as Koreans have been doing it for years, and the same people didn't say anything about it. And the same people that complained about koreans flying over and taking the WCS EU/NA money now aren't complaining that foreigners do the same. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On February 28 2018 17:36 FrkFrJss wrote: I mean, that's a fair opinion. If you just happen to like the Koreans more, then that's that. I will say, though, that in the two years of WCS EU and AM, all six tournaments were won by Koreans, this in addition to having WCS Korea for those two years, and foreigners were a small percentage of the ro8. I feel like Koreans living in Korea and then coming to America and then leaving was not what Blizzard had in mind. Hi Pigbaby. So, to talk about foreigners coming and taking the GSL money while also taking the foreign money is interesting seeing as Koreans have been doing it for years, and the same people didn't say anything about it. Thanks. There was a difference no ? I mean koreans weren't allowed to go to both circuits, and they had to forfeit GSL in order to go to WCS American/Europe. At the time I cheered hard for foreigner against that "invasion" except in America since there wasn't very strong players at the time so yeah without Polt or Bomber I wouildn't have watch it at all. But both for' and kor were kind on equal foot. Here SpeCial and Scarlett and co' can play in Korea and in Homeland. Koreans just have homeland... that's why even I like Major i can't cheer for him in GSL, just like I was agaisnt godMvp in WCS EU. And I hated to see people saying that koreans have no personality when the tree most emotionnal victory of tournament were arguably those of DuckDeok, Forgg and sOs I mean they have a lot to show, while foreigner since the glorious days of Stephano or Naniwa don't look badass anymore in my opinion. But it's not foreigner hate. best player ever was a foreigner after all. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 16:05 FrkFrJss wrote: What exactly do you find boring about the foreigner scene? Their playstyle? Do you remember Rain playing? He wasn't exactly the most exciting guy to watch? Their personality? I mean...foreigners have avilo. He's more than enough personality for the entire scene combined. Storylines? I mean Neeb being a highschooler and then being the first foreigner to win a Korean SC2 tournament. I don't really know tbh. I just can't find myself cheering for one of those players. I watched a few WCS events and just felt complete empathy about who wins the game as opposed to the korean scene where I'm cheering like crazy for my favourites to advance. Not sure why this is, maybe the lower skilllevel and the knowledge that the players are just competing there because the better players are excluded. | ||
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Avicularia
540 Posts
Other than that it really is not the players fault. They are giving their best, and often they are doing it for us, so there is no reason to bash them... If you like Koreans it is fine (it is not like we have something against them) but no need to insult foreigners. It is natural that people are cheering for palyers from their countries, or their region (like NA or EU). Moreover cheering for underdogs is always fun. Like yesterday in a Neeb vs Harstem match I think that most people would cheer for the second one. And foreigners are most of the time underdogs, so it is natural. The other thing is language barrier. It is obviously way more fan to listen to interviews in language you can understand. Or read twits or forum posts. All the Koreans that speak even occasionally some English have way more fans than the rest of them. All in all - you can cheer for whoever you like, you can hate region lock but please stop insulting players. I can only imagine how awful it must feel to read "I hope all foreigners will be smashed" all the time from their point of view. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On February 28 2018 19:07 Charoisaur wrote: And the same people that complained about koreans flying over and taking the WCS EU/NA money now aren't complaining that foreigners do the same. You are very much correct on that point. And perhaps there is some hypocrisy in that regard. But the extent to which Scarlett, Sortof, and Special take GSL money is negligible compared to the amount of winnings the top Koreans won in WCS AM/EU. Scarlett winning instead of Innovation does' hurt him very much monetarily. Now, I do agree that the lower tier Koreans are suffering, but the occasional placement in Code S isn't going to fix that problem. They need a secondary tournament that is only for low skilled Koreans. | ||
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Avicularia
540 Posts
On February 28 2018 19:40 FrkFrJss wrote: You are very much correct on that point. And perhaps there is some hypocrisy in that regard. But the extent to which Scarlett, Sortof, and Special take GSL money is negligible compared to the amount of winnings the top Koreans won in WCS AM/EU. Scarlett winning instead of Innovation does' hurt him very much monetarily. Now, I do agree that the lower tier Koreans are suffering, but the occasional placement in Code S isn't going to fix that problem. They need a secondary tournament that is only for low skilled Koreans. And Koreans want foreigners in GSL because it adds more hype and increase number of viewers. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 28 2018 19:40 FrkFrJss wrote: You are very much correct on that point. And perhaps there is some hypocrisy in that regard. But the extent to which Scarlett, Sortof, and Special take GSL money is negligible compared to the amount of winnings the top Koreans won in WCS AM/EU. Scarlett winning instead of Innovation does' hurt him very much monetarily. Now, I do agree that the lower tier Koreans are suffering, but the occasional placement in Code S isn't going to fix that problem. They need a secondary tournament that is only for low skilled Koreans. But it annihilates the careers of young teamless players who have the potential but who must also feed themselves. | ||
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HowardRoark
1146 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On February 28 2018 21:25 DieuCure wrote: But it annihilates the careers of young teamless players who have the potential but who must also feed themselves. There are no young, teamless Koreans who have the potential but whose spots have been taken by foreigners. All Koreans that foreigners have taken out either would not have made it anyways or are already established Koreans with the ability to make Code S. Take a look at any qualifier where a foreigner beat a Korean and show the up and coming Korean who would have made it without the foreigners. As I said, these Koreans need a secondary tournament that is only for low skilled Koreans. The problem with Korea is that you have many top tier, some middle tier, and few low tier. The rest are mainly ladder players. They don't have a base of middle and low tier players. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 28 2018 21:25 DieuCure wrote: But it annihilates the careers of young teamless players who have the potential but who must also feed themselves. To be fair I think a lack of an organized tier 2 is probably doing that more than anything else, across all regions. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 28 2018 17:25 Ej_ wrote: And it haa nothing to do with the Korean matchfizing scandal and the Korean sponsors and KeSPA leaving SC2 behind, right :o? Even if we blame the fall of Korean scene only on this and not on the fact that SC2 wasn't so popular and other games were/are more popular. When that happened the region lock rule didn't change. While Koreans lost the team support(appart from the JAGW) they are threatened by foreigners while foreigners are still protected. I kinda see double standards when circumstances changed. And I don't like that. BTW most of the Koreans in WCS EU were living there and playing on the EU ladder. While yes, Koreans were dominating the EU scene at least they were there and were improving the quality of the scene. I can see how WCS NA was wrong and I was one of the peopel who actually argued for "you have to live there to compete" in the way EU was done(because of the lag issues ) | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On February 28 2018 21:40 FrkFrJss wrote: There are no young, teamless Koreans who have the potential but whose spots have been taken by foreigners. All Koreans that foreigners have taken out either would not have made it anyways or are already established Koreans with the ability to make Code S. Take a look at any qualifier where a foreigner beat a Korean and show the up and coming Korean who would have made it without the foreigners. As I said, these Koreans need a secondary tournament that is only for low skilled Koreans. The problem with Korea is that you have many top tier, some middle tier, and few low tier. The rest are mainly ladder players. They don't have a base of middle and low tier players. Last year Elazer beat Prince twice to make it into Code S | ||
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