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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 26 2018 13:36 GMT
#141
just a brilliant game
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
February 26 2018 13:37 GMT
#142
On February 26 2018 22:35 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2018 22:34 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 26 2018 22:30 yht9657 wrote:
I wonder how long it will take Terran players to realize TVP is actually pretty balanced right now.

Isn't it generally seen as balanced since the patch?

Terrans will have no rest until TvP is at 60%.


60%? lol that ain't enough bro. It ain't balanced for Terrans till it's 70%. Flash is the benchmark.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
February 26 2018 13:37 GMT
#143
Did anyone else notice that the BCs had an animation for when it was being hurt by storm?
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 26 2018 13:38 GMT
#144
On February 26 2018 22:34 leublix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2018 22:26 DieuCure wrote:
On February 26 2018 22:22 leublix wrote:
On February 26 2018 22:17 yht9657 wrote:
I'm calling it, mass ravens gonna win Maru this game.

Yep. Seems like it.

Pros finally realising how op they are.


Rofl, hardcounter are op now

Anyway, not sure why Stats thought it would be a good idea to go for a game like that.

Not much else you can do on that awful map.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 26 2018 13:38 GMT
#145
For months/years PvT lategame was an autowin and the second terran gets something that can fight back in lategame people start complaining instead of trying to figure out solutions.
I guess people are just used to terran having no lategame by now and don't want it any different.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
February 26 2018 13:40 GMT
#146
its been a fun event so far
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 26 2018 13:40 GMT
#147
On February 26 2018 22:38 Charoisaur wrote:
For months/years PvT lategame was an autowin and the second terran gets something that can fight back in lategame people start complaining instead of trying to figure out solutions.
I guess people are just used to terran having no lategame by now and don't want it any different.

I mean this is Starcraft after all, people will always find a way to complain about something. It's inevitable
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 13:41:03
February 26 2018 13:40 GMT
#148
Did anyone else notice that the BCs had an animation for when it was being hurt by storm?
Shoot double post
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 13:41:18
February 26 2018 13:40 GMT
#149
On February 26 2018 22:38 Charoisaur wrote:
For months/years PvT lategame was an autowin and the second terran gets something that can fight back in lategame people start complaining instead of trying to figure out solutions.
I guess people are just used to terran having no lategame by now and don't want it any different.


Its never been autowin for protoss the raven could be argued was even better before the 4.0 patch, ghosts libs and BCs are effectively unchanged and the carrier has had a slight nerf with the cost of interceptors but that is not a huge thing in PvT.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
February 26 2018 13:42 GMT
#150
people shouldn't be salty about a game where pretty much every tech path was used by both players. That was a treat guys. If the matchup evolves in that direction it could be pretty cool.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 26 2018 13:46 GMT
#151
On February 26 2018 22:42 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
people shouldn't be salty about a game where pretty much every tech path was used by both players. That was a treat guys. If the matchup evolves in that direction it could be pretty cool.

I also loved watching FlaSh split 4p maps in half with 100 turrets and then mining it out for 15 minutes.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 26 2018 13:47 GMT
#152
And I don't think it's outrageous that Maru can beat Stats in lategame ( People that think terran should have no lategame of course think different).
When we see let's say uthermal beating Classic with mass Raven we can talk.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 13:50:51
February 26 2018 13:47 GMT
#153
first good late game TvP I've seen in months and people complaining about balance

Also I think the new seeker is better than the old one in TvP because of the energy cost, it took you such a long time before you have enough seeker missiles
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 26 2018 13:48 GMT
#154
I'm so smart i whine about terrans whine
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 26 2018 13:49 GMT
#155
On February 26 2018 22:38 Charoisaur wrote:
For months/years PvT lategame was an autowin and the second terran gets something that can fight back in lategame people start complaining instead of trying to figure out solutions.
I guess people are just used to terran having no lategame by now and don't want it any different.

Honestly we don't get to see PVT lategame very often, mostly one side will just kill the other side before that happens, mostly it's T kills P since Protoss players tend to tech more often.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
February 26 2018 13:51 GMT
#156
On February 26 2018 22:47 Charoisaur wrote:
And I don't think it's outrageous that Maru can beat Stats in lategame ( People that think terran should have no lategame of course think different).
When we see let's say uthermal beating Classic with mass Raven we can talk.



I totally agree.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
February 26 2018 13:53 GMT
#157
no idea who's gonna win this dns drogo match

neither of them has ravens
I Protoss winner, could it be?
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
February 26 2018 13:54 GMT
#158
On February 26 2018 22:49 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2018 22:38 Charoisaur wrote:
For months/years PvT lategame was an autowin and the second terran gets something that can fight back in lategame people start complaining instead of trying to figure out solutions.
I guess people are just used to terran having no lategame by now and don't want it any different.

Honestly we don't get to see PVT lategame very often, mostly one side will just kill the other side before that happens, mostly it's T kills P since Protoss players tend to tech more often.


yeah often times the players will stay on early late game tech and trade because neither of them sees the opportunity to to tech up.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 26 2018 13:54 GMT
#159
On February 26 2018 22:48 DieuCure wrote:
I'm so smart i whine about terrans whine

Whining about whining about terrans whining new meta.
why even
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
February 26 2018 13:57 GMT
#160
On February 26 2018 22:54 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2018 22:48 DieuCure wrote:
I'm so smart i whine about terrans whine

Whining about whining about terrans whining new meta.


whineception!
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