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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 26 2018 16:08 GMT
#281
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:06 Soularion wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:04 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:03 Soularion wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:02 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:01 Soularion wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Was less of a choke and more of him not expecting souL to really do anything and then panicking when souL actually tried to play aggressively. I hope more foreigners do that. Just attack the koreans, man. Can't be like Guru and try to play safe vs them, they'll just run you over.

Guru and playing safe LOL

I didn't see game 1, but game 2 he went for a pretty standard opening and got early pooled. He played okay, but ultimately Solar edged him out.

Going hatchery first in a zvz isn't and indicator of any kind of a mindset...

playing safe would be opening pool first and having a BO win vs 13/12

If I phrased it as more of a mindset that's my bad, but I'm just saying I don't think you can really let korean players get into their comfort zone, which going hatch first in ZvZ definitely does. Afaik Solar loves his aggro ling/bling wars against players who aren't soO.

in GSL he lost to Leenock's 13/12 while opening pool first so I doubt he loves ling/bane, especially given how often he skips banelings at all in ZvZ

I dunno, he looked pretty damn comfortable against Guru v0v It's just usually an awkward position, I guess. I think the aggressive player tends to have a big comfort lead in ZvZ, being on the back foot is never fun in that matchup.
Writermaru pls
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
February 26 2018 16:09 GMT
#282
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 26 2018 16:10 GMT
#283
Trust 1-1 Serral, better game from Serral.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 26 2018 16:10 GMT
#284
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

everybody in the world unchokes?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 26 2018 16:10 GMT
#285
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Is it surprising? Scarlett's never been very consistent in ZvZ. I kind of knew she'd struggle to rely on the matchup, because across her entire career she's been inconsistent in the matchup. She lost to Namshar in WCS, which is when I really started to think 'yeah, this isn't gonna last'.
Writermaru pls
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 26 2018 16:11 GMT
#286
First korean sweep complete
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
February 26 2018 16:11 GMT
#287
gap saved
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
February 26 2018 16:11 GMT
#288
On February 27 2018 01:10 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Is it surprising? Scarlett's never been very consistent in ZvZ. I kind of knew she'd struggle to rely on the matchup, because across her entire career she's been inconsistent in the matchup. She lost to Namshar in WCS, which is when I really started to think 'yeah, this isn't gonna last'.


I mean, if she'd lose to a decent foreigner I could get it...
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 26 2018 16:12 GMT
#289
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Jet lag, ZvZ randomness, Polish Zerg OP, etc.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 26 2018 16:12 GMT
#290
On February 27 2018 01:11 Nakajin wrote:
First korean sweep complete

If anyone expected big things from DnS/souL/Bly/Drogo, idk what they're smoking. They're okay players but that group has some koreans in it which just utterly outclass them.
Writermaru pls
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
February 26 2018 16:12 GMT
#291
People are saying that the gap between foreigners and Koreans narrowed. I think it's more that Koreans aren't as good as they were before. They don't have a team or a coach behind them anymore I don't think?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 26 2018 16:13 GMT
#292
On February 27 2018 01:08 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Soularion wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:04 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:03 Soularion wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:02 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:01 Soularion wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Was less of a choke and more of him not expecting souL to really do anything and then panicking when souL actually tried to play aggressively. I hope more foreigners do that. Just attack the koreans, man. Can't be like Guru and try to play safe vs them, they'll just run you over.

Guru and playing safe LOL

I didn't see game 1, but game 2 he went for a pretty standard opening and got early pooled. He played okay, but ultimately Solar edged him out.

Going hatchery first in a zvz isn't and indicator of any kind of a mindset...

playing safe would be opening pool first and having a BO win vs 13/12

If I phrased it as more of a mindset that's my bad, but I'm just saying I don't think you can really let korean players get into their comfort zone, which going hatch first in ZvZ definitely does. Afaik Solar loves his aggro ling/bling wars against players who aren't soO.

in GSL he lost to Leenock's 13/12 while opening pool first so I doubt he loves ling/bane, especially given how often he skips banelings at all in ZvZ

I dunno, he looked pretty damn comfortable against Guru v0v It's just usually an awkward position, I guess. I think the aggressive player tends to have a big comfort lead in ZvZ, being on the back foot is never fun in that matchup.

Well Guru is not exactly a great player, Solar should comfortably win most times regardless
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
February 26 2018 16:14 GMT
#293
On February 27 2018 01:12 geokilla wrote:
People are saying that the gap between foreigners and Koreans narrowed. I think it's more that Koreans aren't as good as they were before. They don't have a team or a coach behind them anymore I don't think?


Of course that's why.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10082 Posts
February 26 2018 16:14 GMT
#294
On February 27 2018 01:11 Penev wrote:
gap saved

hahahaaha short but funny
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
February 26 2018 16:14 GMT
#295
On February 27 2018 01:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Jet lag, ZvZ randomness, Polish Zerg OP, etc.


I accept the jet lag explanation. I'd also accept touched by JYP.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 26 2018 16:15 GMT
#296
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Maybe not S class, what a novel idea
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
February 26 2018 16:16 GMT
#297
On February 27 2018 01:15 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Maybe not S class, what a novel idea

How dare you...
Thought police get in here
It appears I have been chosen.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
February 26 2018 16:16 GMT
#298
On February 27 2018 01:15 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Maybe not S class, what a novel idea


She's in Code S.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 26 2018 16:17 GMT
#299
On February 27 2018 01:16 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 01:15 starkiller123 wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird

Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru


How the fuck?

Is she out now?

Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D.
She's in LB now.


How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?

Maybe not S class, what a novel idea


She's in Code S.

Guru is already in Code Z
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 26 2018 16:18 GMT
#300
(Z)Scarlett 2-0 (P)ArT

ArT confirmed not code p(olish)
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
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