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On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:06 Soularion wrote:On February 27 2018 01:04 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:03 Soularion wrote:On February 27 2018 01:02 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:01 Soularion wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Was less of a choke and more of him not expecting souL to really do anything and then panicking when souL actually tried to play aggressively. I hope more foreigners do that. Just attack the koreans, man. Can't be like Guru and try to play safe vs them, they'll just run you over. Guru and playing safe LOL I didn't see game 1, but game 2 he went for a pretty standard opening and got early pooled. He played okay, but ultimately Solar edged him out. Going hatchery first in a zvz isn't and indicator of any kind of a mindset... playing safe would be opening pool first and having a BO win vs 13/12 If I phrased it as more of a mindset that's my bad, but I'm just saying I don't think you can really let korean players get into their comfort zone, which going hatch first in ZvZ definitely does. Afaik Solar loves his aggro ling/bling wars against players who aren't soO. in GSL he lost to Leenock's 13/12 while opening pool first so I doubt he loves ling/bane, especially given how often he skips banelings at all in ZvZ I dunno, he looked pretty damn comfortable against Guru v0v It's just usually an awkward position, I guess. I think the aggressive player tends to have a big comfort lead in ZvZ, being on the back foot is never fun in that matchup.
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On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now.
How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru?
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Trust 1-1 Serral, better game from Serral.
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On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? everybody in the world unchokes?
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On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Is it surprising? Scarlett's never been very consistent in ZvZ. I kind of knew she'd struggle to rely on the matchup, because across her entire career she's been inconsistent in the matchup. She lost to Namshar in WCS, which is when I really started to think 'yeah, this isn't gonna last'.
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Canada8989 Posts
First korean sweep complete
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On February 27 2018 01:10 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Is it surprising? Scarlett's never been very consistent in ZvZ. I kind of knew she'd struggle to rely on the matchup, because across her entire career she's been inconsistent in the matchup. She lost to Namshar in WCS, which is when I really started to think 'yeah, this isn't gonna last'.
I mean, if she'd lose to a decent foreigner I could get it...
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On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Jet lag, ZvZ randomness, Polish Zerg OP, etc.
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On February 27 2018 01:11 Nakajin wrote: First korean sweep complete If anyone expected big things from DnS/souL/Bly/Drogo, idk what they're smoking. They're okay players but that group has some koreans in it which just utterly outclass them.
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People are saying that the gap between foreigners and Koreans narrowed. I think it's more that Koreans aren't as good as they were before. They don't have a team or a coach behind them anymore I don't think?
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On February 27 2018 01:08 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Soularion wrote:On February 27 2018 01:04 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:03 Soularion wrote:On February 27 2018 01:02 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:01 Soularion wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Was less of a choke and more of him not expecting souL to really do anything and then panicking when souL actually tried to play aggressively. I hope more foreigners do that. Just attack the koreans, man. Can't be like Guru and try to play safe vs them, they'll just run you over. Guru and playing safe LOL I didn't see game 1, but game 2 he went for a pretty standard opening and got early pooled. He played okay, but ultimately Solar edged him out. Going hatchery first in a zvz isn't and indicator of any kind of a mindset... playing safe would be opening pool first and having a BO win vs 13/12 If I phrased it as more of a mindset that's my bad, but I'm just saying I don't think you can really let korean players get into their comfort zone, which going hatch first in ZvZ definitely does. Afaik Solar loves his aggro ling/bling wars against players who aren't soO. in GSL he lost to Leenock's 13/12 while opening pool first so I doubt he loves ling/bane, especially given how often he skips banelings at all in ZvZ I dunno, he looked pretty damn comfortable against Guru v0v It's just usually an awkward position, I guess. I think the aggressive player tends to have a big comfort lead in ZvZ, being on the back foot is never fun in that matchup. Well Guru is not exactly a great player, Solar should comfortably win most times regardless
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On February 27 2018 01:12 geokilla wrote: People are saying that the gap between foreigners and Koreans narrowed. I think it's more that Koreans aren't as good as they were before. They don't have a team or a coach behind them anymore I don't think?
Of course that's why.
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On February 27 2018 01:11 Penev wrote: gap saved hahahaaha short but funny
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On February 27 2018 01:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Jet lag, ZvZ randomness, Polish Zerg OP, etc.
I accept the jet lag explanation. I'd also accept touched by JYP.
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On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Maybe not S class, what a novel idea
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On February 27 2018 01:15 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Maybe not S class, what a novel idea How dare you... Thought police get in here
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On February 27 2018 01:15 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Maybe not S class, what a novel idea
She's in Code S.
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On February 27 2018 01:16 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 01:15 starkiller123 wrote:On February 27 2018 01:09 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 01:07 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 01:06 Heartland wrote:On February 27 2018 00:59 Ej_ wrote:On February 27 2018 00:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Morning everyone. Missed anything good so far? I see Stats choked, that's weird Scarlett lost 0-2 to Guru How the fuck? Is she out now? Just played at the usual average foreigner level :D. She's in LB now. How do you go from S-class to losing to Guru? Maybe not S class, what a novel idea She's in Code S. Guru is already in Code Z
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