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 IEM XII IEM Season XII - PyeongChang Streams & CastersFormat
Matches & Results!Semi Finals ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/6170.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/4571.jpg)  Elazer vs Scarlett![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1101.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1173.jpg)  sOs vs  SpeCial+ Show Spoiler [Bracket] + VODs!Click Here CSS: FO-nTTaX Awesomeness: Panda Banner: IEM | ||
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Soke
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Elazer 1-3 ScarlettsOs 3-0 SpecialScarlett 0-4 sOsNobody can stop $0$' money rampage. This is but a preview of the IEM WC | ||
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maybe he'll show up to update the thread at some point | ||
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breaker1328
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On February 07 2018 11:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: "You can only have so many decks in your card" - PiG In a strange way it makes sense. Very Zen. | ||
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Poll: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 1 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (3) ★★★★ - Great Game (4) ★★★ - Decent Game (3) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (0) 10 total votes Your vote: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 1 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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On February 07 2018 12:04 The_Red_Viper wrote: European zergs simply aren't on the level of a code s ro16 player Namshar code S confirmed | ||
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Poll: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 2 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (4) ★★★★ - Great Game (1) ★★★ - Decent Game (2) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (1) 8 total votes Your vote: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 2 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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On February 07 2018 12:13 Shellshock wrote: get hyped for the first medals of the olympics You mean the silver dinner plate? | ||
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Waxangel
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Rosewater_Dish | ||
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Shellshock
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medals are gigantic this year | ||
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Shellshock
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On February 07 2018 12:21 The_Red_Viper wrote: No way elazer can win this not even from a full foreigner? | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Poll: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 3 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (9) ★★★★ - Great Game (1) ★★★ - Decent Game (0) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (0) 10 total votes Your vote: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 3 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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Shellshock
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Soke
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The_Red_Viper
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Not sure how many foreigners you would need to throw that | ||
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BretZ
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KingofdaHipHop
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On February 07 2018 12:24 The_Red_Viper wrote: Not sure how many foreigners you would need to throw that How many Tefels does it take to screw in a full foreigner lightbulb? | ||
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pvsnp
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So most likely sOs takes home another paycheck. It's been awhile for him, I suppose his mother needs a new car. | ||
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Shellshock
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On February 07 2018 12:26 ZombieGrub wrote: I would really love a Scarlett vs. sOs finals, but even Scarlett vs Special would be fun. :D idk after seeing her series vs Kelazhur the other day, facing Special might be pretty rough. Especially if she keeps trying to MBL | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On February 07 2018 12:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote: How many Tefels does it take to screw in a full foreigner lightbulb? IDK, you tell me. sOs is the favorite for sure but honestly he didn't look invincible vs kelazhur, a better terran might have won so maybe special has a chance. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On February 07 2018 12:27 pvsnp wrote: Whomever wins the lower bracket is heavily favored against whomever wins the upper bracket. So most likely sOs takes home another paycheck. It's been awhile for him, I suppose his mother needs a new car. SpeCial's TvZ hasn't been looking all that special, so I think Elazer could take it despite his iffy ZvT. Though in either case I think Elazer would have much better chances than Scarlett in the finals. | ||
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ZombieGrub
United States692 Posts
On February 07 2018 12:27 Shellshock wrote: idk after seeing her series vs Kelazhur the other day, facing Special might be pretty rough. Especially if she keeps trying to MBL Eh she can be very hit or miss, part of the reason I didn't have her beating Serral initially. But if she's having a good tournament and a good day she has shown she can take on the best Terrans, even with MBL. And let's not gloss over the fact Special went 3-2 vs. Bly, and I would give Scarlett a much higher chance against Special than Bly usually. | ||
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Poll: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 4 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (1) ★★★★ - Great Game (2) ★★★ - Decent Game (2) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (0) 5 total votes Your vote: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 4 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game Poll: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 5 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (2) ★★★★ - Great Game (1) ★★★ - Decent Game (1) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (0) 4 total votes Your vote: Elazer vs Scarlett Game 5 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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MASTERCAKES
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Uberfather
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On February 07 2018 12:40 MilleudaFolles wrote: YES YES | ||
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Circumstance
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FrostedMiniWheats
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On February 07 2018 12:41 Circumstance wrote: How does Leenock feel through this weekend? "at least I'll beat Zest" | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 12:41 Circumstance wrote: How does Leenock feel through this weekend? Leenock's been resigned to his fate ever since Inno picked him On February 07 2018 12:43 Nakajin wrote: I feel like Scarlett form is inversely proportional to the amount of money she paid her hairdresser. (not saying it dosen't look good) But.....isn't that exactly what you said ?_? | ||
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ZombieGrub
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On February 07 2018 12:43 Nakajin wrote: I feel like Scarlett form is inversely proportional to the amount of money she paid her hairdresser. (not saying it dosen't look good) Isn't it super cool when something awesome happens and the first thing someone thinks of doing is commenting on their looks??? | ||
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Nakajin
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On February 07 2018 12:43 pvsnp wrote: Leenock's been resigned to his fate ever since Inno picked him But.....isn't that exactly what you said ?_? Nah just saying it's there isn't dye or a fancy haircut, and the last time she was playing that good was when she just had the poneytale, it's just a joke. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On February 07 2018 12:46 ZombieGrub wrote: Isn't it super cool when something awesome happens and the first thing someone thinks of doing is commenting on their looks??? Isn't it super cool when someone makes a joke and the first thing someone else does is being offended for no good reason??? | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 12:48 Nakajin wrote: Nah just saying it's there isn't dye or a fancy haircut, and the last time she was playing that good was when she just had the poneytale, it's just a joke. Can't say that I pay much attention to any of the players' hair (or hair in general), so I'll take your word for it. | ||
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Mordanis
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On February 07 2018 12:49 pvsnp wrote: Can't say that I pay much attention to any of the players' hair (or hair in general), so I'll take your word for it. Wolf is offended at your inattention to hair. | ||
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breaker1328
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On February 07 2018 12:48 The_Red_Viper wrote: Isn't it super cool when someone makes a joke and the first thing someone else does is being offended for no good reason??? Isn't it really cool when we're talking about someone's looks and no one is concerned about Rotti's need for more exercise? He keeps carrying on like this we'll never see him shirtless at the next HSC. | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 12:51 Nakajin wrote: Guess I deserve some of the hate, I can see why it would be annoying. Really didn't mean it to say anything about her looking good or not tho Oh I wasn't hating, don't take it personally. The way you phrased that (seemed self-contradictory) just raised my eyebrow. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On February 07 2018 12:51 starkiller123 wrote: awesome! just got back and now i can watch the PvT. just another ZvZ series? There were many a lings and roaches | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 12:51 starkiller123 wrote: awesome! just got back and now i can watch the PvT. just another ZvZ series? Don't worry, you missed nothing of any import whatsoever. | ||
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ZombieGrub
United States692 Posts
On February 07 2018 12:48 The_Red_Viper wrote: Isn't it super cool when someone makes a joke and the first thing someone else does is being offended for no good reason??? Bruh, it's simply not fun to look through comments and see something negative about your hair, makeup, dress, etc. He cleared it up by saying it was a joke about her different hairstyles over the years but it didn't come off well by alluding she didn't pay much for a haircut. But just like that they cleared it up and we can go on to talk about a TvP. | ||
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On February 07 2018 12:53 pvsnp wrote: Don't worry, you missed nothing of any import whatsoever. Idk, there were quite the mind games going on, if someone enjoys that i think it's worth a watch | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 12:55 The_Red_Viper wrote: Idk, there were quite the mind games going on, if someone enjoys that i think it's worth a watch Eh, ZvZ mindgames happen so quickly it's hard to appreciate them, at least for me. But that might just be my distaste for ZvZ bleeding through. | ||
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breaker1328
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On February 07 2018 12:53 pvsnp wrote: Don't worry, you missed nothing of any import whatsoever. Basically, if/when Scarlett beats $O$ in the finals and wins a Premier tournament in Korea the first excuse is she only won it because she only had to play one real series since she got to the finals by soundly outplaying 3 other foreign Zergs. And really, like Serral before him, Elazer is probably feeling a little embarrassed right now because that series was a drubbing. Not gonna talk bad about Cham though, he's trying, he'll get there eventually. | ||
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On February 07 2018 12:56 pvsnp wrote: Eh, ZvZ mindgames happen so quickly it's hard to care, at least for me. yeah, plus half the wcs games are ZvZ's lol, I'm ok missing some | ||
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On February 07 2018 12:57 breaker1328 wrote: Basically, if/when Scarlett beats $O$ in the finals and wins a Premier tournament in Korea the first excuse is she only won it because she only had to play one real series since she got to the finals by soundly outplaying 3 other foreign Zergs. And really, like Serral before him, Elazer is probably feeling a little embarrassed right now because that series was a drubbing. Not gonna talk bad about Cham though, he's trying, he'll get there eventually. What? Non sequitur much? Dude asked if he missed anything besides ZvZ, I said no. You sure you replied to the right person? | ||
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breaker1328
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On February 07 2018 12:58 pvsnp wrote: What? Non sequitur much? Dude asked if he missed anything besides ZvZ, I said no. You said of import, I'm saying he missed the reasoning behind discrediting Scarlett's eventual glorious victory. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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), but i am a korean elitist so let's go! | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 13:00 breaker1328 wrote: You said of import, I'm saying he missed the reasoning behind discrediting Scarlett's eventual glorious victory. What? What does arriving late have to do with this? Are you sure you aren't replying to the wrong person? | ||
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breaker1328
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On February 07 2018 13:02 pvsnp wrote: What? What does arriving late have to do with this? Are you sure you aren't replying to the wrong person? That is a possibility, yes. | ||
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ZombieGrub
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On February 07 2018 13:01 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am really no sOs fan (i cannot forgive him ruining that one blizzcon finals ), but i am a korean elitist so let's go!If you're referring to the JD one then I'mma add I'm afraid of the same thing happening if he makes it to the finals vs. Scarlett haha. JD was my first favorite, Scarlett my second. If sOs ruins both their finals I'mma be pretty sad. But I think I'll enjoy the ZvP regardless. ZvT too actually. Dunno who I really want to go through! | ||
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pvsnp
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Ok, I'll write this off then. | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:01 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am really no sOs fan (i cannot forgive him ruining that one blizzcon finals ), but i am a korean elitist so let's go!I'm no fan of sOs either, but even I can support his sweet old mother. | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:05 ZombieGrub wrote: If you're referring to the JD one then I'mma add I'm afraid of the same thing happening if he makes it to the finals vs. Scarlett haha. JD was my first favorite, Scarlett my second. If sOs ruins both their finals I'mma be pretty sad. But I think I'll enjoy the ZvP regardless. ZvT too actually. Dunno who I really want to go through! Yeah talking about the JD one, my favorite player of all time and i felt the live crowd wanted JD to win as well. I still remember apollo beig visibly sad too :D Should be a fun finals no matter what happens, though as i said the korean elitist in me needs the korean victory On February 07 2018 13:07 pvsnp wrote: I'm no fan of sOs either, but even I can support his sweet old mother. Honestly that video made me rethink a bit, sOs seems to be a nice guy/good person. His playstyle though :/ | ||
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Diabolique
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Finally the year of Scarlett!!!!! Just a weird gg from Special? | ||
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Topin
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 that wasnt supose to go like that T_T | ||
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Nakajin
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On February 07 2018 13:13 Diabolique wrote: Just a weird gg from Special? I don't think he could have hold the counter, but maybe a bit quick on leaving | ||
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Waxangel
United States33222 Posts
On February 07 2018 12:46 ZombieGrub wrote: Isn't it super cool when something awesome happens and the first thing someone thinks of doing is commenting on their looks??? typical zest fan | ||
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Yiome
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Not sure what Special is doing there. Or is it just upgrade advantage? came in late so did not watch the whole game | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 13:09 The_Red_Viper wrote: Honestly that video make me rethink a bit, sOs seems to be a nice guy/good person. His playstyle though :/ Same, my most common feeling towards sOs was disgust, with the occasional dash of begrudging respect. But after watching that video, I find it a lot easier to cheer for him. At least in a situation like this, with none of my favorites in attendance. | ||
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JackONeill
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but that you still die because protoss is protoss. | ||
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Diabolique
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On February 07 2018 13:14 Nakajin wrote: I don't think he could have hold the counter, but maybe a bit quick on leaving Well, sOs's army was also only the survivors ... but he could have waited a while with the gg... | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:15 JackONeill wrote: When protoss goes for a early agression build that you defend perfectly, while securing a worker and army lead, that you manage to pull the entirety of the protoss army into the main so that you can setup your 6 tanks outside the protoss natural... but that you still die because protoss is protoss. He had 6 collo, a couple immortals archons. | ||
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JackONeill
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On February 07 2018 13:17 Cricketer12 wrote: He had 6 collo, a couple immortals archons. Yeah he had a failed early game and allowed enemy siege units to setup in a hard to dislodge location but still somehow had a more powerfull army, my point exactly. | ||
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Soke
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The_Red_Viper
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On February 07 2018 13:19 pvsnp wrote: That can't actually be a wall can it? We broodwar now! | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:15 JackONeill wrote: When protoss goes for a early agression build that you defend perfectly, while securing a worker and army lead, that you manage to pull the entirety of the protoss army into the main so that you can setup your 6 tanks outside the protoss natural... but that you still die because protoss is protoss. Pretty sure sOs had higher army value there with all the colo and immortal But Special should be able to trade much better with some focus fire there. Feels like there is a lot of colo with empty shield at the end. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:19 JackONeill wrote: Yeah he had a failed early game and allowed enemy siege units to setup in a hard to dislodge location but still somehow had a more powerfull army, my point exactly. He was a base up and took no harass at all Terran whines make no sense. Protoss have insane phat stuff but it's difficult to get to that point. Terran needs to be aggressive so protoss can't get to that point or if they do they are super behind. | ||
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Cricketer12
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Highlight of the tournament so far | ||
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Diabolique
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Dream final sOs Scarlett ... | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 13:23 kaykoose wrote: Jesus. I hope Scarlett wins. $O$ play just rubs me the wrong way Rubs me the wrong way too, tbh Just think of his sweet old mother and it's all good. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:24 pvsnp wrote: Me too, tbh. Just think of his sweet old mother and it's all good. and the new car sOs will buy her | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:23 kaykoose wrote: Jesus. I hope Scarlett wins. $O$ play just rubs me the wrong way I love sOs, he's like the Loki of SC2. | ||
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pvsnp
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Behold, the birth of a meme | ||
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Nakajin
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First MC now sOs, bullshit toss love their mom | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On February 07 2018 13:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Did he say shield batteries? Am I missing something? You might've missed patch 4.0. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Did he say shield batteries? Am I missing something? Yes, there are shield batteries now in SC2. | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
edit: oh well does not matter. Bio tank does not work here | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
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That is something I definitely missed, wow. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:23 kaykoose wrote: Jesus. I hope Scarlett wins. $O$ play just rubs me the wrong way You bad person who does not like old Korean ladies! sOs's mother is not faceless | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Poll: sOs vs SpeCial Game 1 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (1) ★★★★ - Great Game (4) ★★★ - Decent Game (2) ★★ - Meh Game (3) ★ - Bad Game (2) 12 total votes Your vote: sOs vs SpeCial Game 1 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game Poll: sOs vs SpeCial Game 2 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (1) ★★★★ - Great Game (4) ★★★ - Decent Game (3) ★★ - Meh Game (2) ★ - Bad Game (1) 11 total votes Your vote: sOs vs SpeCial Game 2 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game Sorry missed game 1 something came up | ||
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Kommander
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On February 07 2018 13:30 Topin wrote: i knoe sOs is playing great but i cant avoid being salty by the way he is winning People will be salty either way. Standard turtle Protoss win, Protoss OP. sOs does something different, Protoss still OP. At least sOs isn't sitting back and being passive. | ||
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usopsama
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On February 07 2018 13:30 Nakajin wrote: Damn no chance for Special Hey, don't say that. When foreigners think they have a chance to win, the "hope" makes the tears taste better. | ||
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Uberfather
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On February 07 2018 13:05 ZombieGrub wrote: If you're referring to the JD one then I'mma add I'm afraid of the same thing happening if he makes it to the finals vs. Scarlett haha. JD was my first favorite, Scarlett my second. If sOs ruins both their finals I'mma be pretty sad. But I think I'll enjoy the ZvP regardless. ZvT too actually. Dunno who I really want to go through! I don't think it wise to hate sOs for ruining finals against their favorites, its like hating hurricanes, etc. People should just feel compassion for the victims. I was also a hater after that blizzcon (That hype around Jaedong was what brought me to sc2), but after clowning herO and shutting down MKP i forgave him. And then after he won another blizzcon after my next favorite player, i just accepted and became a fan. And now that video <3 | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 13:32 Kommander wrote: People will be salty either way. Standard turtle Protoss win, Protoss OP. sOs does something different, Protoss still OP. At least sOs isn't sitting back and being passive. The only salty people are those too blind to see the number of Tanks that Major committed to. Chargelot/Archon/Immortal wrecks Tanks so hard it's not even funny. Major would still be the underdog if he played standard, but at least the games would be closer. | ||
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Cricketer12
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On February 07 2018 13:33 pvsnp wrote: The only salty people are those too blind to see the number of Tanks that Major committed to. Chargelot/Archon/Immortal wrecks Tanks so hard it's not even funny. I think that's why people are salty | ||
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starkiller123
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On February 07 2018 13:31 pvsnp wrote: sOs should go for double proxy robo now and dumpster Major that build tilts me | ||
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pvsnp
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They must have been salty for eight years then..... Don't build (lots of) Tanks in TvP, it's not that hard to figure out | ||
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Topin
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On February 07 2018 13:31 pvsnp wrote: sOs should go for double proxy robo now and dumpster Major almost | ||
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pvsnp
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Major should've waited until the Colossus was out before doing that..... On February 07 2018 13:36 Mordanis wrote: I hate collodrops. Colossus dies and T can IMMEDIATELY walk over and kill you Tbh I think sOs is just styling at this point | ||
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starkiller123
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On February 07 2018 13:37 pvsnp wrote: ?? Major should've waited until the Colossus was out before doing that..... just frustrated lol, clearly tilted | ||
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Kommander
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On February 07 2018 13:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: sOs throwing the whole bullshit book today Only fellow Koreans seem to be immune to sOs bullshit, and when I say immune I really mean slightly resistant lol. | ||
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ZombieGrub
United States692 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:32 Uberfather wrote: I don't think it wise to hate sOs for ruining finals against their favorites, its like hating hurricanes, etc. People should just feel compassion for the victims. I was also a hater after that blizzcon (That hype around Jaedong was what brought me to sc2), but after clowning herO and shutting down MKP i forgave him. And then after he won another blizzcon after my next favorite player, i just accepted and became a fan. And now that video <3 I didn't say I hate him. Of course, I did right after the finals. I also hated Stardust for his games against JD, and Naniwa, and a ton others because it's fun to be emotionally invested. But then the tournament passes and you just admit you were sad your favorite didn't win and the other player is good. Don't think there's anything wrong with that. Don't think there's anything wrong with creating your own storylines as a fan either, as long as you aren't a jerk about it. Bit disappointed in the way this TvP is played. Not commenting on the score of performance, just the style that's been played. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On February 07 2018 13:37 pvsnp wrote: ?? Major should've waited until the Colossus was out before doing that..... In theory sOs can pick it up before the projectile hits, but it didn't look like MajOr even tried... | ||
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pvsnp
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Major is so tilted you could ski down him | ||
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Kommander
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On February 07 2018 13:37 frazzle wrote: Scarlett v sOs will be interesting. I thought Special would pose a bigger problem to sOs, but I think Sasha would have lost to Special hands down. Scarlett v sOs feels way more volatile than say a Sasha v Neeb. I don't know, Neeb has pretty much owned Scarlett historically. And Scarlett plays standard in most of her ZvPs. What more when she goes up against sOs. | ||
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pvsnp
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The tilt is real | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: going for the undefeated run that would actually be pretty sick | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:35 pvsnp wrote: They must have been salty for eight years then..... Don't build (lots of) Tanks in TvP, it's not that hard to figure out you have far too much faith in this community... | ||
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Cricketer12
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On February 07 2018 13:41 pvsnp wrote: TY: "I'm so proud of you Major, you copied me perfectly." LOL | ||
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brickrd
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On February 07 2018 13:41 Cricketer12 wrote: you have far too much faith in this community... Terrans don't think the game is designed right unless double factory tank is a core style in all matchups | ||
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Nakajin
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Still I would be surprises if it's not closer then this. | ||
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frazzle
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On February 07 2018 13:39 Kommander wrote: I don't know, Neeb has pretty much owned Scarlett historically. And Scarlett plays standard in most of her ZvPs. What more when she goes up against sOs. But she plays Neeb SO much. I think her ZvP is pretty decent unless she plays someone who intimately knows her. Even then, in the case of Neeb, she goes back and forth in taking series (although Neeb steamrolled her this past week). I think scarlett v sOs should be a good match. I hope. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:41 Cricketer12 wrote: you have far too much faith in this community... I raged about Protoss imbalance as much as anyone, but seriously, Tanks are completely hardcountered by Protoss. It's not a balance issue at that point, just obstinance. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Poll: sOs vs SpeCial Game 3 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (0) ★★★★ - Great Game (2) ★★★ - Decent Game (1) ★★ - Meh Game (5) ★ - Bad Game (1) 9 total votes Your vote: sOs vs SpeCial Game 3 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game Poll: sOs vs SpeCial Game 4 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (2) ★★★★ - Great Game (1) ★★★ - Decent Game (1) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (1) 5 total votes Your vote: sOs vs SpeCial Game 4 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game Poll: sOs vs SpeCial Game 5 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (4) ★★★★ - Great Game (1) ★★★ - Decent Game (0) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (1) 6 total votes Your vote: sOs vs SpeCial Game 5 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:44 frazzle wrote: But she plays Neeb SO much. I think her ZvP is pretty decent unless she plays someone who intimately knows her. Even then, in the case of Neeb, she goes back and forth in taking series (although Neeb steamrolled her this past week). I think scarlett v sOs should be a good match. I hope. I hope so, because Scarlett v Protoss has felt like the inverse of NeebvZ. | ||
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pvsnp
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I don't wanna say 4-0, but I suspect it might just be that. | ||
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Uberfather
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On February 07 2018 13:37 ZombieGrub wrote: I didn't say I hate him. Of course, I did right after the finals. I also hated Stardust for his games against JD, and Naniwa, and a ton others because it's fun to be emotionally invested. But then the tournament passes and you just admit you were sad your favorite didn't win and the other player is good. Don't think there's anything wrong with that. Don't think there's anything wrong with creating your own storylines as a fan either, as long as you aren't a jerk about it. Bit disappointed in the way this TvP is played. Not commenting on the score of performance, just the style that's been played. I know it doesn't sound like it, cuz i have 0 ways with words, but i was just kinda joking about sOs being a force a nature that inevitably will crush your favorite in finals (happened to me twice), so you are better off having him as your favorite. (that second person is the "people in general" type) | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:46 pvsnp wrote: sOs looks to be in excellent form, I don't envy Scarlett right now I don't wanna say 4-0, but I suspect it might just be that. sOs versus most people in this bracket would be a 4-0/4-1. I think maybe 4-2 against Elazer or Serral. He might have lost against Zest. | ||
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JackONeill
861 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:43 Topin wrote: i dont like this mass tanks style. i believe terrean should make 1 or 2 for defense and then go mass bio/drops unless you are doing an all in. i also think that mines dont work anymore so the only way to play right now is mass MMMGV Don't think that works against any protoss deathball with chronoboosted upgrades Tbh i'm still waiting for some terran player to display a style that seems to work against protoss without relying on straight up outplaying him with mechanics | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 13:47 FrkFrJss wrote: sOs versus most people in this bracket would be a 4-0/4-1. I think maybe 4-2 against Elazer or Serral. He might have lost against Zest. In his current form I'd say he is definitely one of the top Koreans. And against foreigners, not dropping a single map to foreigners is almost expected of any top Korean. | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:48 pvsnp wrote: In his current form I'd say he is definitely one of the top Koreans. And against foreigners, not dropping a single map to foreigners is almost expected of any top Korean. Serral could have won at least 2 games imo... Scarlett on the other hand i really dont know | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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Poll: How many games will scarlett win? 4 (8) 0 (6) 2 (6) 1 (3) 3 (1) 24 total votes Your vote: How many games will scarlett win? What do you guys think? I think Scarlett should make it closer than Major, but who knows sOs looks great | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 13:49 Topin wrote: Serral could have won at least 2 games imo... Scarlett on the other hand i really dont know I don't like Serral's style at all against Koreans since he is so macro-heavy. That style works best against players with inferior mechanics, and the biggest difference between foreigners and Koreans is their mechanics. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:49 Topin wrote: Serral could have won at least 2 games imo... Scarlett on the other hand i really dont know We haven't seen a lot of Scarlett ZvP outside of her vs Neeb and she always struggles against him, so lets wait, maybe she has something. | ||
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frazzle
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On February 07 2018 13:49 Topin wrote: Serral could have won at least 2 games imo... Scarlett on the other hand i really dont know I admit, I have too many memories of Scarlett parlaying an early aggression advantage into 80 drones vs 25 probes into no army and a loss. That was signature Scarlett. It's like shellshock or PTSD. It makes me think she can't be doing as well as she is doing. BUT I STILL HAVE THE DREAM | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:48 JackONeill wrote: Don't think that works against any protoss deathball with chronoboosted upgrades You just have to channel your inner Taeja and never make a big mistake. It is doable. | ||
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Kommander
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On February 07 2018 13:52 Nakajin wrote: We haven't seen a lot of Scarlett ZvP outside of her vs Neeb and she always struggles against him, so lets wait, maybe she has something. Scarlett almost always plays standard macro ZvP. No cheeses, rushes, timing attacks. Which plays into sOs' hands, he'll almost certainly go for some 5-6 minute chargelot/archon aggression, or some other build that no one has ever thought of. | ||
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nanaoei
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his multitasking and zergling abuse is seriously underappreciated. guys, special did his best and prepared hard. u can armchair of hindsight it all you want, but sOs simply had a counter-intuitive style to special's. you build tanks to hit a sharp timing (or to hope they get desperate if they are weaker oppo.), not to sit at home | ||
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imre
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On February 07 2018 13:47 FrkFrJss wrote: sOs versus most people in this bracket would be a 4-0/4-1. I think maybe 4-2 against Elazer or Serral. He might have lost against Zest. Zest on the zerg side of the bracket was the best thing that could happen to sOs. I hope Scarlett puts or fight or that we see a total domination so that the final can be fun in one way or another. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:54 Kommander wrote: Scarlett almost always plays standard macro ZvP. No cheeses, rushes, timing attacks. Which plays into sOs' hands, he'll almost certainly go for some 5-6 minute chargelot/archon aggression, or some other build that no one has ever thought of. She can throw a fair few cheeses out, usually in the form of ling drops | ||
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JackONeill
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On February 07 2018 13:53 Pursuit_ wrote: You just have to channel your inner Taeja and never make a big mistake. It is doable. Worked in WOL, not in LOTV. | ||
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pvsnp
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On February 07 2018 13:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: She can throw a fair few cheeses out, usually in the form of ling drops Trying to match sOs in the bullshit department is a losing proposition from the get-go | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 07 2018 13:54 Kommander wrote: Scarlett almost always plays standard macro ZvP. No cheeses, rushes, timing attacks. Which plays into sOs' hands, he'll almost certainly go for some 5-6 minute chargelot/archon aggression, or some other build that no one has ever thought of. She does her share of proxy hatches and ling floods (though most often against players she knows well like Neeb). | ||
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On February 07 2018 13:48 JackONeill wrote: Don't think that works against any protoss deathball with chronoboosted upgrades Tbh i'm still waiting for some terran player to display a style that seems to work against protoss without relying on straight up outplaying him with mechanics The way he is playing tanks is just so easy to see and counter for the protoss, he's playing like it's TvZ where midgame armies cannot ever be perfectly crafted to deal with tanks. I think the biggest thing that was missing unit wise from special was liberators, and the lack of multiprong was really uncharacteristic. The style he went for is much better suited for the current mass gateway meta, since I do think that terran can afford to sit back and build good splash there, but he saw that SoS was going for a heavy robo deathballish army every game, and played a passive style instead of abusing SoS' immobility | ||
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Pursuit_
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Worked pretty well in HotS too. Unfortunately the only pro who played the style didn't play much LotV so we never got to see how well it works at the top level in LotV. | ||
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Topin
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On February 07 2018 13:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: She can throw a fair few cheeses out, usually in the form of ling drops i remember a nydus in overgrowth | ||
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nanaoei
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that is the name of the game for a standard game for scarlett this set. | ||
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JackONeill
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On February 07 2018 13:56 nick00bot wrote: The way he is playing tanks is just so easy to see and counter for the protoss, he's playing like it's TvZ where midgame armies cannot ever be perfectly crafted to deal with tanks. I think the biggest thing that was missing unit wise from special was liberators, and the lack of multiprong was really uncharacteristic. The style he went for is much better suited for the current mass gateway meta, since I do think that terran can afford to sit back and build good splash there, but he saw that SoS was going for a heavy robo deathballish army every game, and played a passive style instead of abusing SoS' immobility Harass was pretty good though. However i do agree that just leaving the tanks at home and loading his entire bio force into medivacs and get them across the map while teching to ranged liberators would have made much more sense. The fact that at some point SoS sent all his zealots to runby, and that major left all his tanks sieged in the middle of the map seems to me like he simply just fucked up. I mean if SoS just had warped 10 zealots and charged into the tanks it was gg. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:10 Mordanis wrote: I wonder if Tasteless feels self-conscious yelling "IT IS SoS!!!!!" when it's just him and other casters in the room... I doubt it. He's only been doing this casting gig for a decade or so. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I see sOs has watched the recent Scarlett vs Neeb games and knows that she just sort of crumbles vs adept timings :/ That doesn't even qualify as a timing, just standard adept pressure | ||
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edit: Wow I stand corrected. That attack went so much better than it should have. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That wasn't too bad for Scarlett, but the follow-up is essentially hard countered by what sOs is going for. edit: Wow I stand corrected. That attack went so much better than it should have. sOs didn't have a screen for his immortals, if he had some zealots he would've crushed that attack | ||
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Poll: Grand Final Game 1 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (10) ★★★★ - Great Game (3) ★★★ - Decent Game (4) ★★ - Meh Game (1) ★ - Bad Game (2) 20 total votes Your vote: Grand Final Game 1 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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MilleudaFolles
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3 MOAR TO GO! | ||
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JackONeill
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If she wins there's a chance she'll make it far into GSL | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:23 [Phantom] wrote: What's the counter to lurkers? Immortals are good, but sOs was too far behind. | ||
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FrkFrJss
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On February 07 2018 14:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Immortals are good, but sOs was too far behind. Storm + Immortals and archons and chargelots | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On February 07 2018 14:23 [Phantom] wrote: What's the counter to lurkers as protoss? Tempest? V O I D R A Y S | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:24 FrkFrJss wrote: Storm + Immortals and archons and chargelots I mean the chargelots are good at rounding out the composition against other units and sinking minerals, but they aren't actually good against the lurkers. | ||
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Poll: Grand Final Game 2 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (4) ★★★★ - Great Game (8) ★★★ - Decent Game (2) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (0) 14 total votes Your vote: Grand Final Game 2 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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Diabolique
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GSL Win!!! Sorry sOs's mom. No car this time. | ||
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JackONeill
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Scarlet's really playing in a smart way it's nice to watch. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:35 JackONeill wrote: P>T>Z>P more like P>T=Z>P | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The way colossus got more popular in PvZ recently perplexes me a bit considering the hydra nerfs and lurker centric play getting even more common (which I feel benefits chargelot/immortal/archon a bit more). The vagaries of the meta are interesting as always. Likely we would also see a resurgent of Disruptor for players prefer sticking to range options. While parting is not exactly top-tier atm, watching him playing with colo/disruptor is a thing of beauty. | ||
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imre
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On February 07 2018 14:37 Kommander wrote: Neeb is looking better and better with every Scarlett win. Except the fact that transitivity doesn't work at all in SC2. On February 07 2018 14:38 [Phantom] wrote: This is dissapointing for me. I took a big hiatus in the game, but came back recently. I have 60% winrate vs T and P but 30% vs Zerg. Wanted to see sOs vs Zerg and get strats...he's as bad (comparatively) as me in ZvP lol Look at Classic games imo. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:38 Yiome wrote: Likely we would also see a resurgent of Disruptor for players prefer sticking to range options. While parting is not exactly top-tier atm, watching him playing with colo/disruptor is a thing of beauty. I'm a bit sceptical due to how good lings are at detonating the new nova, and how precious robo time is with lurkers in the game, but we'll see. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:38 imre wrote: Except the fact that transitivity doesn't work at all in SC2. Look at Classic games imo. Yea Classic is on fire at the moment | ||
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Poll: Grand Final Game 3 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (11) ★★★★ - Great Game (2) ★★★ - Decent Game (1) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (2) 16 total votes Your vote: Grand Final Game 3 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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imre
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He's the one Protoss that makes every of his win looking so easy, bopping his opponents almost every time. | ||
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MilleudaFolles
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LET'S GO SCARLETT! SHURA FIGHTING! | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
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Go Scarlett!!! Sasha get em! 4-0 Yeah baby!!!!! | ||
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Fecalfeast
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On February 07 2018 14:40 Topin wrote: holy shit! On February 07 2018 14:40 Soke wrote: Holy shit On February 07 2018 14:40 Cricketer12 wrote: Holy shit holy shit | ||
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FrkFrJss
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On February 07 2018 14:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I mean the chargelots are good at rounding out the composition against other units and sinking minerals, but they aren't actually good against the lurkers. They charge in first, which means that the lurkers fire at them first as opposed to the archons. It works better with a surround. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Thanks Avex | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:45 Topin wrote: im scared.. someone hold me Can we hold each other? | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:46 Moobutt wrote: Honestly, I think sOs has decent odds at reverse sweeping it. if he shows up because he's been afk since the defence on his 3rd during the 1st game while Scarlett is playing some clean SC2. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:47 The_Templar wrote: Decided to do homework instead of watching. How is the finals going so far? Foreigner killing it | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:46 Moobutt wrote: Honestly, I think sOs has decent odds at reverse sweeping it. If someone can do it it's him. Remember sOs vs KT? | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:47 Cricketer12 wrote: Holy shit Scarlett could win her first tournament in Korea. You gotta go triple crown after that. She'd only need Europe, I'm pretty sure. I'd have to check LickyPiddy for classification, but I think either Red Bull or BWC counts. | ||
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Someone give a quick rundown of the first three games? | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:47 The_Templar wrote: Decided to do homework instead of watching. How is the finals going so far? sOs getting rekt harder than Corridor Creeper | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:49 peanuts wrote: WTF SCARLETT IS UP 3-0? Someone give a quick rundown of the first three games? Lurkers, Lurkers and Ling drops | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:49 peanuts wrote: WTF SCARLETT IS UP 3-0? Someone give a quick rundown of the first three games? Ravager queen rush kills 3rd Lurkers and obs snipes Ling drop | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:47 Bagration wrote: In that IEM promo, what country does FRC stand for? I'd guess france | ||
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GSL S player is killing another GSL S player Nothing to see here. =.= | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:49 peanuts wrote: WTF SCARLETT IS UP 3-0? Someone give a quick rundown of the first three games? Game 1 on Catalyst: Scarlett proxy hatch on sOs' natural, delayed him, went into hydra lurker ravager roach, better econ, killed him. Game 2 on Neon Violet Square: Standard ZvP, hydra lurker with drops, sOs went with Colossi instead of storm, two pronged attack, killed him. Game 3 on Backwater: dropperlord ling cheese | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:48 ukiya2004 wrote: Why didnt sOs make an oracle in game 3??? He was chrono boosting stargate.... the whole defence was pathetic. He chose to make a Stalker instead of an oracle ffs :D | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:49 Cricketer12 wrote: Ravager queen rush kills 3rd Lurkers and obs snipes Ling drop Givin him the gouda, hell yeah | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:48 Circumstance wrote: She'd only need Europe, I'm pretty sure. I'd have to check LickyPiddy for classification, but I think either Red Bull or BWC counts. Nope. She has never won a premier. | ||
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Bagration
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On February 07 2018 14:49 yht9657 wrote: Feels more like P >>>>>> T=Z >>>>>>> P to me. I think T=P since the patch. sOs is just a much better player than those foreigners | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote: sOs really hates upgrades it seems. He's been trying to defend an all-in and trying to all-in back the whole game, it's easy to forget about upgrades in situations like this. | ||
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Yeah, that strat looked like something from WoL wtf! | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:00 yht9657 wrote: He's been trying to defend an all-in and trying to all-in back the whole game, it's easy to forget about upgrades in situations like this. His upgrades weren't exactly fast in the other games either. | ||
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Poll: Grand Final Game 4 ★★★★★ - Amazing Game (7) ★★★★ - Great Game (13) ★★★ - Decent Game (0) ★★ - Meh Game (0) ★ - Bad Game (0) 20 total votes Your vote: Grand Final Game 4 (Vote): ★★★★★ - Amazing Game | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:02 Charoisaur wrote: Scarlett might be favored against Zest now  FTFY | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:02 JackONeill wrote: Well you can't just keep spamming roaches while your opponent is snowballing immortals It's not like she had any other tech. Imagine if she had gotten those 15 probes she damaged though | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:02 Charoisaur wrote: Scarlett might be favored against Zest now Zest is prolly favored for the 4th place if he plays in his group like he played there. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:03 busyghost wrote: one immortal for 91 roaches. Wow It's almost like immortals vs roaches are the hardest counter in the game of any units that can actually attack each other | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's almost like immortals vs roaches are the hardest counter in the game of any units that can actually attack each other Ultra vs lings? | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's almost like immortals vs roaches are the hardest counter in the game of any units that can actually attack each other Yea because if I a move an immo into an army of roaches the zerg just taps out instantly. | ||
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sOs is not the god at emergency wall off | ||
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Zerg bullshit! SCARLETTTTTT!! | ||
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NORTH AMERICA!!!!!! | ||
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Watching oracles helplessly look on for a change as their mineral line is gutted ^^ | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:09 sharkie wrote: Is this scarlett's biggest career achievement ever? I dont think she ever won a big one? o.o That is correct. | ||
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So good. | ||
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Well, this is the only olympic event i care about and canada won CANADA NUMBER 1 | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:09 JabuSeika wrote: Two NA champions in Korea... So good. NA #1 | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:09 sharkie wrote: Is this scarlett's biggest career achievement ever? I dont think she ever won a big one? o.o yup, her first ever premier tournament win | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:09 ramask2 wrote: sOs is gradually transforming into soOs 3 times is a kong. | ||
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NA >> EU | ||
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It is known | ||
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Jokes appart deserved win. SoS played absolutely aweful. | ||
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he's 5-5 in finals now INno > sOs JD < sOs Parting > sOs herO < sOs MKP < sOs Solar < sOs Life < sOs ByuN > sOs INno > sOs Scarlett > sOs | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Scarlett played like Dark this series. Meanwhile sOs played like a bad version of Neeb--he's barely played PvZ post-patch so I was hoping for some tricks. Exactly, if you hid the player IDs while watching this series, you'd think the Zerg player was Dark. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:11 Kommander wrote: Too bad she won in an audience-less environment. It would've been surreal with an audience. Maybe that helped her performance - it'd be more like practice | ||
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FrkFrJss
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Is it a coincidence that the two events foreigners have won in Korea have been won by North Americans? | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:11 JackONeill wrote: Well congratz Scarlett you won a fucking plate. I'm pretty sure you can't even put it in the dishwasher. Jokes appart deserved win. SoS played absolutely aweful. If I was Sasha, I'd eat a fucking meal off it. Like an expensive surf and turf. But I wonder how she'll perform in GSL. I'd like to see her tear through it, but she honestly deosn't have too. I wouldn't blame her for not trying hard. She deserves a little break from SC2. Wouldn't be surprised if she kept training though, she has a tough mentality. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:11 Kommander wrote: Too bad she won in an audience-less environment. It would've been surreal with an audience. that actually might've helped her. Her weakness has always been her nerves. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: If I was Sasha, I'd eat a fucking meal off it. Like an expensive surf and turf. nah man she should get some tim hortons donuts on there | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:13 sudete wrote: Run wasn't easy either, had to win ZvZs against elazer and serral She had by far the hardest run of everyone I think. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:13 Cricketer12 wrote: nah man she should get some tim hortons donuts on there 5 lbs of poutine | ||
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Soke
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On February 07 2018 15:14 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm really curious about how she'll play versus Innovation. Zest and Leenock definitely seem beatable provided she keeps this form up for...4 days Well, considering she won, she's cursed to go 0-4 now, right? In all seriousness, she could seriously ride this momentum into the ro8 | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On February 07 2018 15:13 Cricketer12 wrote: nah man she should get some tim hortons donuts on there Nah she should get something that doesn't suck | ||
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Cricketer12
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On February 07 2018 15:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Nah she should get something that doesn't suck popeyes? | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I like sOs but good god that was satisfying. Watching oracles helplessly look on for a change as their mineral line is gutted ^^ it was poetic | ||
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poutine | ||
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If I had disposable income, I'd pay Sasha to do a photo shoot eating off the plate! Any meal of her choice really. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:14 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm really curious about how she'll play versus Innovation. Zest and Leenock definitely seem beatable provided she keeps this form up for...4 days can't be worse than that anyway GSLTV The Loser Strikes Back/Week 4 | ||
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Was sOs outsmarted? Is Scarlett better than sOs? That was hype, but I guess I'm more fan of macro games. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:17 CCa1ss1e wrote: Kerrigan would be proud. Watchu talking about? Scarlett IS Kerrigan reincarnated. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:18 Circumstance wrote: I just loved how quickly she went to the trophy as soon as she shook his hand. That was not an occasion for walking. the little hop when she ran :D | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:17 imre wrote: can't be worse than that anyway http://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/GSLTV_The_Loser_Strikes_Back/Week_4 INno 11-0ed Leenock in that event, so Scarlett still has good chances of getting out of her group. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:18 [Phantom] wrote: Is there any balance problem with early game agression ZvP? Was sOs outsmarted? Is Scarlett better than sOs? That was hype, but I guess I'm more fan of macro games. As Rotti pointed out, sOs had some egregious errors in his defense, but Scarlett also played it out about as well as she could have. Scarlett was unstoppable this tournament, and sOs seemed to let the pressure get to him | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: INno 11-0ed Leenock in that event, so Scarlett still has good chances of getting out of her group. and then maybe she can out ZvZ someone and ro4 here we go. Would be glorious. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: INno 11-0ed Leenock in that event, so Scarlett still has good chances of getting out of her group. Well let's see...Scarlett went 9-2 against Cham, Serral, and Elazer, two of the best Zergs in WCS, and with Zest looking awful in PvZ and Scarlett going 4-1 against one of the trickiest Protoss in the world....I would yeah, there's a good chance that Scarlett makes it to the ro8 in GLS. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:18 [Phantom] wrote: Is there any balance problem with early game agression ZvP? Was sOs outsmarted? Is Scarlett better than sOs? That was hype, but I guess I'm more fan of macro games. When noregret made it to code S twice with those deoplord ling rushes you know something is wrong. Also the most critical problem with PVZ is not early game aggression by zerg, it's about Protoss has to open SG so that they don't die to zerg bullshit, and when P opens SG zerg can drone up pretty easily into mid-game and do whatever they want. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:18 [Phantom] wrote: Is there any balance problem with early game agression ZvP? Was sOs outsmarted? Is Scarlett better than sOs? That was hype, but I guess I'm more fan of macro games. I can't remember the last time I saw an evenly matched Zerg win a long macro game versus Protoss. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I just want to remind everyone that Scarlett ALMOST GOT DISQUALIFIED FOR THIS TOURNAMENT Thank god that got resolved. Ugh DON'T REMIND ME. *gags* | ||
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Zerg that strong atm tho? Boyh Elazer and Scarlett beating top KR protoss while top terrans foreigners get 3-0ed. A bit sad as terran fans but whatever, at least Scarlett finally win something! Epic run. Makes Serral loss less disappointing | ||
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blunderfulguy
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On February 07 2018 15:58 lastprobeALIVE wrote: I love ESL and what they have done for esports, imo they highlight panel people more than the players. it would have been an amazing exchange with scarlett if they picked her brain about the series, instead rotti drawing all over screen... After a long day of competition the last thing most players want to do is have their brain probed. Keep the interview short and sweet and then let them go relax. And Rotti had some good points that plenty of viewers probably missed too. | ||
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monkeyfetus
United States350 Posts
On February 07 2018 15:58 lastprobeALIVE wrote: I love ESL and what they have done for esports, imo they highlight panel people more than the players. it would have been an amazing exchange with scarlett if they picked her brain about the series, instead rotti drawing all over screen... I'm fine with analysts analyzing. Post match interviews are very hit and miss, especially if it's right after before they've had time to collect their thoughts. I think they did a great job of highlighting players with their biographical video segments they showed off during breaks. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:36 argonautdice wrote: And to think that Scarlett started this tournament with an automatic disqualification and coming off a combined 1-10 loss against Neeb and Kelazhur 4 hours prior to her first series of the tournament. Yeah, although I think it is pretty clear she was not feeling great/didn't care overmuch about those games as she was already qualified. | ||
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SlammerIV
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On February 07 2018 15:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: If I was Sasha, I'd eat a fucking meal off it. Like an expensive surf and turf. But I wonder how she'll perform in GSL. I'd like to see her tear through it, but she honestly deosn't have too. I wouldn't blame her for not trying hard. She deserves a little break from SC2. Wouldn't be surprised if she kept training though, she has a tough mentality. She is going to practice hardcore for her matches on Saturday, GSL means a lot to her as she mentioned in the interview. I cannot wait for that group btw | ||
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D-light
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Guess that'll keep the Scarlett overhype going for the next couple of mediocre years. | ||
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Zaros
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On February 07 2018 19:00 deacon.frost wrote: So is this the time the WCS stops being region locked or do we wait until Koreans will need the region lock? Only two Koreans were allowed in this event let's be honest if Koreans were allowed in every Qualifier then you probably end up with soO innovation etc being in the tournament too and unlikely for Scarlett to qualify/win then. Regardless congrats to Scarlett she played really well hopefully this is a sign of things to come. | ||
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Poopi
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On February 07 2018 18:22 D-light wrote: Holy shit sOs what an embarrassing performance. Guess that'll keep the Scarlett overhype going for the next couple of mediocre years. She eliminated Serral but no need to be rude. She wasn't more hyped than other top zergs in the past (Snute, Nerchio?) | ||
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On February 07 2018 19:25 Zaros wrote: Only two Koreans were allowed in this event let's be honest if Koreans were allowed in every Qualifier then you probably end up with soO innovation etc being in the tournament too and unlikely for Scarlett to qualify/win then. Regardless congrats to Scarlett she played really well hopefully this is a sign of things to come. How does this logic apply to the fact she advanced to the RO16 in GSL? The good results of foreigners can be explained in 2 ways, either they became really good or Koreans are becoming worse. With the retreat of KeSPA from SC2 and most of the great teams no longer supporting players I doubt that foreigners are suddenly so godlike. Yes, currently the fully unlocked WCS would be dominated by Koreans. But they wouldn't unlock it immediatelly and even if we start talking right now I doubt they would unlock it for the next year. ANd in 2 years we can have locked GSL for the same reasons WCS is locked now ;-) Edit> I don't mean to lower Scarlett's success - she played really well(and she played well in the past too). But I don't think she played much better than before(e.g. her game vs. Bomber(I believe)). | ||
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Zaros
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On February 07 2018 19:54 deacon.frost wrote: How does this logic apply to the fact she advanced to the RO16 in GSL? The good results of foreigners can be explained in 2 ways, either they became really good or Koreans are becoming worse. With the retreat of KeSPA from SC2 and most of the great teams no longer supporting players I doubt that foreigners are suddenly so godlike. Yes, currently the fully unlocked WCS would be dominated by Koreans. But they wouldn't unlock it immediatelly and even if we start talking right now I doubt they would unlock it for the next year. ANd in 2 years we can have locked GSL for the same reasons WCS is locked now ;-) Edit> I don't mean to lower Scarlett's success - she played really well(and she played well in the past too). But I don't think she played much better than before(e.g. her game vs. Bomber(I believe)). Yes the Korean scene is declining in terms of number of players I dont think quality wise, I do think foreigners are getting better. Having 1 foreigner in GSL ro16 doesn't really prove much we've had foreigners in later stages when there was no region lock. Honestly having 4 more tournaments a year where Koreans can participate I don't think its going to help their scene much it just means innovation etc earn some more money and travel a bit more the main problem that I see is a lack of interest in SC2 in Korea, lack of teams/houses and grassroots. I don't see how letting top Koreans travel to WCS is going to help solve any of those problems. | ||
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D-light
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On February 07 2018 19:31 Poopi wrote: She eliminated Serral but no need to be rude. She wasn't more hyped than other top zergs in the past (Snute, Nerchio?) Yeah, and Serral played disappointingly badly also? Good for Scarlett for playing better than that. Wasn't any more hyped as players who've had way more results over the last three years or so? Woah. | ||
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argonautdice
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On February 07 2018 21:26 D-light wrote: Yeah, and Serral played disappointingly badly also? Good for Scarlett for playing better than that. Wasn't any more hyped as players who've had way more results over the last three years or so? Woah. You're just witnessing the over representation of Canadians in the forum :^) | ||
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Muffloe
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On February 07 2018 21:26 D-light wrote: Yeah, and Serral played disappointingly badly also? Good for Scarlett for playing better than that. Wasn't any more hyped as players who've had way more results over the last three years or so? Woah. We always knew Scarlett was good tho, for example the reads with the banelings vs bomber, and the mechanics of that 800 apm. Now it's all coming together \o/ | ||
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On February 07 2018 23:27 Shellshock wrote: First gold at the Winter Olympics goes to Canada. Couldn’t be less surprised Except Scarlett received a silver plate instead of a gold medal... | ||
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monkeyfetus
United States350 Posts
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 07 2018 20:45 Zaros wrote: Yes the Korean scene is declining in terms of number of players I dont think quality wise, I do think foreigners are getting better. Having 1 forein GSL ro16 doesn't really prove much we've had foreigners in later stages when there was no region lock. Honestly having 4 more tournaments a year where Koreans can participate I don't think its going to help their scene much it just means innovation etc earn some more money and travel a bit more the main problem that I see is a lack of interest in SC2 in Korea, lack of teams/houses and grassroots. I don't see how letting top Koreans travel to WCS is going to help solve any of those problems. I don't see how taking low-tier korean players money will help develop the Korean Scene. And that's exactly what the missing region lock in Korea is doing. The same arguments why implement region lock in WCS now can be safely used for Korea. If you limit travel expanses then only rich Korean can travel as there are no longer any big teams(except JAGW) who can afford sending Koreans left and right. Because if the Koreans fail(and they can fail) then they're at lost. Obviously the easiest solution is to lock the Korea too | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On February 08 2018 05:22 Paljas wrote: sOs was jetlaged and had lag (WE WANT LAN), no wonder why he lost He had jetlag on korea? | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On February 08 2018 06:42 deacon.frost wrote: I don't see how taking low-tier korean players money will help develop the Korean Scene. And that's exactly what the missing region lock in Korea is doing. The same arguments why implement region lock in WCS now can be safely used for Korea. If you limit travel expanses then only rich Korean can travel as there are no longer any big teams(except JAGW) who can afford sending Koreans left and right. Because if the Koreans fail(and they can fail) then they're at lost. Obviously the easiest solution is to lock the Korea too Yes cause foreigners dominate Korean tournaments and Koreans barely get into the top 8 not. | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2705 Posts
Pretty sure he's joking | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 08 2018 09:48 juicyjames wrote: Were there any recommended matches? Filter by my name, I did polls for day 3 Actually on second thought maybe don't trust those because everyone was voting 5 stars because of scarlett | ||
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Iraq16955 Posts
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pvsnp
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
Congrats on winning [IEM XII] PyeongChang !!! xD | ||
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