• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:02
CEST 19:02
KST 02:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b2IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"7ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!40Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2026-27 Football Thread placeholder 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4626 users

[HSC XVI] Group Stage - Day 3 - Page 23

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 Next All
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
November 11 2017 23:27 GMT
#441
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired
Progamer
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 11 2017 23:28 GMT
#442
Solar vs Zest/Stats finals as expected.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 11 2017 23:29 GMT
#443
Solar vs Protoss for finals
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 11 2017 23:29 GMT
#444
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired

stop crying you patchterran

User was warned for this post
why even
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
November 11 2017 23:30 GMT
#445
On November 12 2017 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 12 2017 07:49 blade55555 wrote:
Late game ZvP is so meh right now. But it is fun to see Skytoss get obliterated. Hope this makes late game be more ground focused instead of so carrier focused.


There isn't a ground composition that can beat broodlord/infestor though. Going for carriers and trying to snipe the neural parasiting infestors is still the best bet for toss.

The whole air to ground relationship in sc2 is just not great, i hope blizzard will address this at some point

They have ignored it so far despite it being asked for very often.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2017 23:30 GMT
#446
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired


The patch isn't out yet, and no one expected things to be balanced right away either. Late game ZvX as well as early-mid PvT do look off though.

What would you suggest to change?
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 11 2017 23:30 GMT
#447
Elazer can get carried by his ZvZ again.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
November 11 2017 23:30 GMT
#448
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired

Git Gud!


Oh wait...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
November 11 2017 23:31 GMT
#449
we need David Kim back
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 23:31:40
November 11 2017 23:31 GMT
#450
That bracket looks completely rigged to make a ZvZ finals nearly impossible and a Korea vs Foreigner finals more likely. Can't we get one tournament that lets RNG do the work and let the storylines play out naturally?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 11 2017 23:32 GMT
#451
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired

at the very least im sure the infestors won't get through as is. they'll never let full out BL/Infestor happen again

right?

RIGHT?!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
November 11 2017 23:32 GMT
#452
On November 12 2017 08:29 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired

stop crying you patchterran

people like u is what make pros from checking tl / reddit

keep it up buddy
Progamer
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
November 11 2017 23:33 GMT
#453
On November 12 2017 08:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired


The patch isn't out yet, and no one expected things to be balanced right away either. Late game ZvX as well as early-mid PvT do look off though.

What would you suggest to change?

it dosent matter is not out its gonna go live like this in like 5days. they asked us about it on montreal and i literally told em tvp and tvz both would have big problems. they basically just nerfed ghost raven and mine and buffed the other 2 races in almost everyway

so yes patch sucks
Progamer
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
November 11 2017 23:33 GMT
#454
On November 12 2017 08:32 Major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 08:29 D-light wrote:
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired

stop crying you patchterran

people like u is what make pros from checking tl / reddit

keep it up buddy

pretty sure he was sarcastic
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 23:33:53
November 11 2017 23:33 GMT
#455
On November 12 2017 08:31 Solar424 wrote:
That bracket looks completely rigged to make a ZvZ finals nearly impossible and a Korea vs Foreigner finals more likely. Can't we get one tournament that lets RNG do the work and let the storylines play out naturally?


Must we have this bullshit every other tournament? And with three zergs in first place in their groups a ZvZ finals will obviously be possible. Randomness means you don't always get the bracket you want.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 11 2017 23:33 GMT
#456
On November 12 2017 08:32 Major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 08:29 D-light wrote:
On November 12 2017 08:27 Major wrote:
its so sad who ever came up with this balance idea changes they all awful should really be fired

stop crying you patchterran

people like u is what make pros from checking tl / reddit

keep it up buddy

he's joking
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 11 2017 23:33 GMT
#457
On November 12 2017 08:31 Solar424 wrote:
That bracket looks completely rigged to make a ZvZ finals nearly impossible and a Korea vs Foreigner finals more likely. Can't we get one tournament that lets RNG do the work and let the storylines play out naturally?

RNG in real time!
Show is the code and debug it line by line till we have the bracket!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 11 2017 23:33 GMT
#458
I tuned out for a second, what are the Ro8 matches?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 11 2017 23:34 GMT
#459
On November 12 2017 08:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I tuned out for a second, what are the Ro8 matches?

solar - elazer
snute -harstem/impact

scarlett-zest
alive-stats
why even
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 11 2017 23:35 GMT
#460
On November 12 2017 08:31 Solar424 wrote:
That bracket looks completely rigged to make a ZvZ finals nearly impossible and a Korea vs Foreigner finals more likely. Can't we get one tournament that lets RNG do the work and let the storylines play out naturally?

as long as we don't get a zvz finals I'm happy, Solar vs either Stats or Zest would be pretty hype
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 641
mouzHeroMarine 181
RushiSC 40
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5327
Shuttle 2485
Mini 418
firebathero 276
actioN 162
Soulkey 157
ggaemo 146
BRAT_OK 66
Sharp 65
Noble 60
[ Show more ]
Hyun 52
soO 34
JYJ 24
Yoon 23
scan(afreeca) 23
Shine 21
Rock 18
HiyA 16
IntoTheRainbow 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Dota 2
qojqva2756
XcaliburYe536
Counter-Strike
fl0m1940
byalli1023
ceh9597
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King96
C9.Mang096
Other Games
FrodaN2560
Beastyqt642
elazer334
ArmadaUGS129
XaKoH 66
Trikslyr61
QueenE53
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV212
StarCraft 2
angryscii 13
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 41
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3249
League of Legends
• Nemesis2925
• TFBlade457
Other Games
• imaqtpie8
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
6h 58m
The PondCast
16h 58m
Kung Fu Cup
17h 58m
Patches Events
22h 58m
Replay Cast
1d 15h
CrankTV Team League
1d 17h
OSC
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-27
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.