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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 04 2017 05:19 GMT
#21
On November 04 2017 13:37 RKC wrote:
Oh just realised that soO, TY & Rogue = SKT, KT & Jin Air

Clan balance! Romance of the three kingdoms!


Who does that make MajOr (8th team so kinda Jin Air). Dong Zhuo?
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
November 04 2017 05:22 GMT
#22
On November 04 2017 12:34 Hier wrote:
Holy shit, I haven't watched SC2 in a while and just now realized that Special is Major. When did this happen? Why did he change his name? And how is he in the WCS semi-finals? How does he keep becoming good after being bad so many times?


Skill and luck.

Skill that he was able to beat TY, a bit of luck that Stats underperformed by a lot...(that game 3 throw versus TY T_T), and more luck because he faced Elazer in the ro8.

However, he did train in Korea for a while, and he practiced with TY and other Koreans there, and everyone who went to Korea within the last year or so has kind of got a bit of a skill bump (sort of).

It's funny, because though I expect soO to probably crush Special, if TY faces Special in the grand finals, it's not unconceivable that Special wins...
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 04 2017 06:23 GMT
#23
On November 04 2017 12:34 Hier wrote:
Holy shit, I haven't watched SC2 in a while and just now realized that Special is Major. When did this happen? Why did he change his name?

He wanted to feel special.
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
November 04 2017 06:38 GMT
#24
On November 04 2017 12:34 Hier wrote:
Holy shit, I haven't watched SC2 in a while and just now realized that Special is Major. When did this happen? Why did he change his name? And how is he in the WCS semi-finals? How does he keep becoming good after being bad so many times?


He's always had the potential to be really good. He's shown incredible play at times. He changed his name to have a new beginning and put his past behind him. A rebranding to coincide with him giving SC2 his all with the new WCS system. He has spent a lot of time in Korea recently, and knows many of the top Korean pros so he gets to practice with them. I think what changed was he got experience and stopped choking nearly as much. That last bit alone is probably the greatest thing the system has done for Foreign SC2 and it shows especially bright with Special.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 06:43:18
November 04 2017 06:42 GMT
#25
On November 04 2017 14:22 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 12:34 Hier wrote:
Holy shit, I haven't watched SC2 in a while and just now realized that Special is Major. When did this happen? Why did he change his name? And how is he in the WCS semi-finals? How does he keep becoming good after being bad so many times?


Skill and luck.

Skill that he was able to beat TY, a bit of luck that Stats underperformed by a lot...(that game 3 throw versus TY T_T), and more luck because he faced Elazer in the ro8.

However, he did train in Korea for a while, and he practiced with TY and other Koreans there, and everyone who went to Korea within the last year or so has kind of got a bit of a skill bump (sort of).

It's funny, because though I expect soO to probably crush Special, if TY faces Special in the grand finals, it's not unconceivable that Special wins...


That's the nature of asymmetrical matchups in SC2, compounded by the knockout structure.

League-playoff format (ala SSL) is by far the better way to determine the best all-round player and most deserving winner. Better still if it's purely league without playoffs (but can be quite anti-climatic).
gg no re thx
buffzerg33
Profile Joined May 2017
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 07:25:34
November 04 2017 07:24 GMT
#26
soo > special
rogue > ty

soo>rogue
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
November 04 2017 08:04 GMT
#27
On November 04 2017 14:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 13:37 RKC wrote:
Oh just realised that soO, TY & Rogue = SKT, KT & Jin Air

Clan balance! Romance of the three kingdoms!


Who does that make MajOr (8th team so kinda Jin Air). Dong Zhuo?


Yellow turbans.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 04 2017 09:06 GMT
#28
Let's go soO, take it all!
[image loading]
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
November 04 2017 09:43 GMT
#29
On November 04 2017 18:06 DBooN wrote:
Let's go soO, take it all!
[image loading]



OMG OMG OMG
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
November 04 2017 10:11 GMT
#30
Major and Soo are training partners, i wonder how it will unfold? Do you hide some secret cheese for your friends if you happen to play against them on a tournament?
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 10:14:12
November 04 2017 10:13 GMT
#31
in other news SKT just lost their first bo5 in the World Championship against SSG in LOL
anyways
Special 2-3 soO
Rogue 3-2 TY

soO 4-2 Rogue
Faker is the GOAT!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 04 2017 10:22 GMT
#32
we will have an absolute killer semis and complete shit show of the final, as is tradition
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 04 2017 10:24 GMT
#33
On November 04 2017 14:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 13:37 RKC wrote:
Oh just realised that soO, TY & Rogue = SKT, KT & Jin Air

Clan balance! Romance of the three kingdoms!


Who does that make MajOr (8th team so kinda Jin Air). Dong Zhuo?


PRIME
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 04 2017 10:26 GMT
#34
Lets go soO and ZvZ finals!
why even
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 04 2017 10:27 GMT
#35
(T)MajOr 3-1 (Z)soO
(T)TY 3-2 (Z)Rogue

(T)TY 4-2 (T)MajOr
WriterMaru
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 04 2017 11:00 GMT
#36
2*TvZ and potentially 3 times. I like that.

(T)MajOr 1-3 (Z)soO
(T)TY 3-2 (Z)Rogue

(T)TY 4-3 (Z)soO
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 04 2017 11:06 GMT
#37
Am I mad for thinking special has a realistic shot at winning the whole thing now?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 04 2017 11:21 GMT
#38
On November 04 2017 20:06 Zaros wrote:
Am I mad for thinking special has a realistic shot at winning the whole thing now?

He has the skill to do it, but I don't think he's going to do it.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
November 04 2017 11:22 GMT
#39
On November 04 2017 12:34 Hier wrote:
Holy shit, I haven't watched SC2 in a while and just now realized that Special is Major. When did this happen? Why did he change his name? And how is he in the WCS semi-finals? How does he keep becoming good after being bad so many times?


Problem with most tournaments is that in order to win them you have to play a lot of matches late at night and it typically fucks up your schedule. So a lot easier just to lose quickly and go home early. However, finally there is a price pool that makes winning worthwhile. Hence why major decided to take the games seriously this time.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
November 04 2017 11:25 GMT
#40
On November 04 2017 20:06 Zaros wrote:
Am I mad for thinking special has a realistic shot at winning the whole thing now?

Not at all.
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