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SSL 2017 Streams Format Post Season Match 1 - 3rd place from round robin vs 4th place. Best-of-7. Match 2 - 2nd place from round robin vs winner of Match 1. Best-of-7. Grand Finals - 1st place from round robin vs winner of Match 2. Best-of-7. Matches Results Recommended Polls + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Game 1] + Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 1? ★★★★★ (3)
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+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] + Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 2? ★★★★★ (13)
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+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] + Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 3? ★★★★★ (1)
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+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] + Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 4? ★★★★★ (2)
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+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] + Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 5? ★★★★★ (0)
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+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] + Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 6? ★★★★★ (1)
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+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] + Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 7? ★★★★★ (8)
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Poll: SSL Season 2 Champion Dark (26)
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Your vote: SSL Season 2 Champion
(Vote ): Dark (Vote ): Stats
Surprised to see so many people vote Dark. I think the finals will be very competitive.
Go Stats take the double starleague champion, this is your year edit: Liquipedia reads it's on 24th not 23rd so?
On September 22 2017 17:46 Ej_ wrote: Surprised to see so many people vote Dark. I think the finals will be very competitive.
He is in a great shape
On September 22 2017 18:07 yht9657 wrote: Go Stats take the double starleague champion, this is your year edit: Liquipedia reads it's on 24th not 23rd so?
It will be insane to see, one day, a player winning both starleague at the same time.
Stats could also lose a 3rd final of a Premier in one season
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Yeah i was messing around with date abit my fault! It is Sunday 24th 1400 KST!
Completely disoriented now, well played
A great finals, anticipating epic macro games from these guys. I'm a big fan of both players though, not sure who to cheer for. Dark I guess, since Stats has already won a Starleague this year.
Dark will win like 4-2. He's just too strong in the playoffs/finals of a starleague
Btw I'll go with Dark this time
박령우 화이팅!!! The only korean I ever want to learn ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ While I really wish Dark can whip something metagame-changing out like ling bling straight broods, it's a bit impractical at this point, and stats seems so solid. Head stats 4-2.5 (4-2 or 4-3 equally likely), heart dark 4-1
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Link to the Korean stream. This finals will be a great warm-up before ASL RO16 Group A later tonight.
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at least no socks and open shoes today, nice start!
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Dark not staring into the eyes of Stats
That shot with so many empty chairs was a bit sad
On September 24 2017 14:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: That shot with so many empty chairs was a bit sad
yeah, people do not want sc2 live anymore?
GSL 3rd place match hype!
Ok, enough with the awkward trashtalk nerds. time to play!
So ironic that Classic dug his own grave
head says dark but i want classic to win
On September 24 2017 14:21 Isualin wrote: head says dark but i want classic to win
How is Classic supposed to win a match he isn't in?
On September 24 2017 14:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: That shot with so many empty chairs was a bit sad
Maybe they are lining up to watch Flash play in 4.5 hours.
This is such a low-key feeling finals
Stats is half alseep has he just rolled out of bed for this
SSL is always low key compared to GSL idk what you guys expected
On September 24 2017 14:23 Solar424 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 14:21 Isualin wrote: head says dark but i want classic to win
How is Classic supposed to win a match he isn't in?
obviously a typo i meant Stats
Stats handled that so so well
On September 24 2017 14:35 Twinkle Toes wrote: can dark hold
nope lol
On September 24 2017 14:36 starkiller123 wrote: nope lol
nope ti dope nope
Dark still got this series I think
On September 24 2017 14:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Dark still got this series I think
He's so confident that he gave stats a free win
Hope we get a nice lategame slugfest on Abyssal
On September 24 2017 14:41 pvsnp wrote: Hope we get a nice lategame slugfest on Abyssal
Stats will just win with an 8-minute chargelot immortal sentry push.
stats with 35-31 unit advantage
ahh stupid oracles, i already have nightmares from my tvp games
dat adept save, the first time I see that actually works
Alright already pretty bad looking from Dark here. This stargate stuff is annoying to deal with
adept timing is always the most dangerous at this time
this is a nice toss trick
ahead on supply and building carriers...
On September 24 2017 14:50 starkiller123 wrote: ahead on supply and building carriers...
Yeah Dark is dead very soon, 5 base v 4 base = dead Zerg
Luckily im a Stats fan
Still Dark is the best lategame Zerg as well as anti-skytoss Zerg in the world, so this is far from over
looks like a steamroll carrier here
you guys have no faith in Dark He'll make Stats look like a fool
I just hope Stats doesn't lose all his HTs to a single fungal this time
its all about the vipers now
Dark is playing a tower defense
would adding in colossus be helpful at all in this situation?
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 1? ★★★★★ (3)
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Did those Zealots just charge a geyser? Nope it was just a Zergling that blended in with the creep
Not sure what i have just watched there but well played Dark... i think
So Airtoss can be beaten, interesting
Oh man, now I can't hate on protoss carrier max as a free win anymore :D Fucking amazing.
On September 24 2017 15:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So Airtoss can be beaten, interesting
by Dark, yeah. Not the first time either
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 2? ★★★★★ (13)
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Got my wish, what a game
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On September 24 2017 15:06 Seeker wrote: Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 2? ★★★★★ (13)
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Dark lategame ZvP is god-tier
Beautiful late game by dark wow.
On September 24 2017 15:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: So Airtoss can be beaten, interesting
Dark beats them all the time, last time Stats won an airtoss game vs Dark was in Katowitz and it was close as hell
damn impressive game by Dark
Can you imagine how it feels for stats to lose that?! You get your final form air max army up, you've won, its over, and you lose?! Stats staying cool here would be damn impressive all by itself.
How do you even beat mass corruptors + vipers?
On September 24 2017 15:09 usopsama wrote: How do you even beat mass corruptors + vipers?
Void ray + Storm. Feedback the vipers.
i think if stats wanted to put up a fight, he would have had to make sure he gets those expands earlier(no zergling 5 min block) and possibly consider remaxing on a ground army with immortals and stalkers. This would be on a significant time limit because of brood lords being the new trump card but then airtoss is good again. Overall, of course pure skytoss should lose.
ive always found it funny how the extractor emerges from the cocoon looking like a rubber toy
Did he really just use those banes on pylons instead of hte probes lmao
Stats is the best protoss at holding off cheeses.
That hold was unbelievable. amazing play by stats.
Time to retire the queen drop thing there Dark
When are Zergs going to learn you cant all in a Protoss at this level of play and expect it to win
On September 24 2017 15:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Did he really just use those banes on pylons instead of hte probes lmao
35 workers vs 60. How many probes do you think he need to kill to catch up? He had to kill him.
for a sec it looked like Dark was going to brake that defense
I think that was a missplay by dark, the probes at the third had nowhere to run
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 3? ★★★★★ (1)
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weird tie and powder blue shirt
that pylon bust was suspect
Stats cheesing, no more pure Protoss
Is this the sOs "Mass Chargelots Into Lose Horribly" build?
i remember watching a colossi drop in this map
Dark finally breaks Stats in the early game.
I can't believe Dark is bungling this edit: Nevermind, I didn't think that's still work. Should have had a sentry at the main
Wow, not many protosses impress me, but every time I've been able to watch this series between study, Stats has looked incredible at holding
On September 24 2017 15:33 usopsama wrote: Dark finally breaks Stats in the early game.
Oh wait.
On September 24 2017 15:34 usopsama wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 15:33 usopsama wrote: Dark finally breaks Stats in the early game.
Oh wait.
Nevermind. He is dead.
both of them played this really well
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 4? ★★★★★ (2)
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damn that games was so exciting!... Stats almost held
stats looks like he is crying
those totems. whirlwind is my favorite map
At least it's fairly back and forth. Hope for another long game though
stats looks uneasy. he must be mentally torn about doing some sneaky trick later in the game
running adept is the best
I feel like Dark is throwing away way too many lings here
they try again. they retreat again
dark needs to save those lings
SH. finally something to be excited about
Well this went as bad as physically possible in every way for Dark
too many errors from dark
dude...this series is so tense...
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 5? ★★★★★ (0)
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This is why you don't build shit units like swarmhosts.
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SH feel like a very bad choice in that scenario
The timing from Stats was perfect, those SHs couldn't do anything
i feel bad for dark. too many lings wasted early
i am glad to see swarm host nonsense got destroyed
On September 24 2017 15:47 usopsama wrote: This is why you don't build shit units like swarmhosts.
lol
One of those sad situations where standard hydras would have been 1000x better in that game
On September 24 2017 15:47 usopsama wrote: This is why you don't build shit units like swarmhosts.
They aren't bad, Stats just hit a perfect timing to deny their value, back in IEM Shanghai iAsonu almost destroyed him with SHs
On September 24 2017 15:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: One of those sad situations where standard hydras would have been 1000x better in that game
He was too far behind anyway after all those lings only killed pylons
THIS IS IT. WILL STATS END IT NOW, OR WILL WE GO DOWN TO THE WIRE! STAY TUNED!
Frost is a nice map for tricks
horizontal spawn means quick games
On September 24 2017 15:49 yht9657 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 15:47 usopsama wrote: This is why you don't build shit units like swarmhosts.
They aren't bad, Stats just hit a perfect timing to deny their value, back in IEM Shanghai iAsonu almost destroyed him with SHs
The swarmhosts almost destroyed a player? WOW, maybe they are good units after all!+ Show Spoiler + Maybe you should use a story where the player who used swarmhosts actually won. Just saying
was she the princess of SSL and Jin Air?
On September 24 2017 15:56 usopsama wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 15:49 yht9657 wrote: On September 24 2017 15:47 usopsama wrote: This is why you don't build shit units like swarmhosts.
They aren't bad, Stats just hit a perfect timing to deny their value, back in IEM Shanghai iAsonu almost destroyed him with SHs
The swarmhosts almost destroyed a player? WOW, maybe they are good units after all!
+ Show Spoiler + Maybe you should use a story where the player who used swarmhosts actually won. Just saying
rogue won a decisive gane\
On September 24 2017 15:56 usopsama wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 15:49 yht9657 wrote: On September 24 2017 15:47 usopsama wrote: This is why you don't build shit units like swarmhosts.
They aren't bad, Stats just hit a perfect timing to deny their value, back in IEM Shanghai iAsonu almost destroyed him with SHs
The swarmhosts almost destroyed a player? WOW, maybe they are good units after all!
+ Show Spoiler + Maybe you should use a story where the player who used swarmhosts actually won. Just saying
Stats is a much better player than iAsonu yet still almost gets destroyed, the point is quite clear here
A VR travels lonely across the map
On September 24 2017 15:57 Topin wrote: was she the princess of SSL and Jin Air?
princess?
That was anti-climatic. I didn't know roach/hydra could still work that well
AND NOW ITS GAME FUCKING 7!
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 6? ★★★★★ (1)
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On September 24 2017 16:05 Seeker wrote: Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 6? ★★★★★ (1)
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On September 24 2017 16:02 Twinkle Toes wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 15:57 Topin wrote: was she the princess of SSL and Jin Air?
princess?
the one that keeps alive the JinAir team
Old school
Game 7 hype! The Game that was Promised, and Theirs is the Song of Zerg and Protoss
I'm supposed to sleep already and be early tomorrow, actually that was supposed to happen after game 2, but fuck it right, I need to see game 7!
Unfortunately the promised game 7 is gonna end in some dirty cheesy way
overgrowth is a nice map for zerg
Let's see if Dark tries the swamrhosts again.
cross map, I smell some cheese
On September 24 2017 16:08 sashkata wrote: Let's see if Dark tries the swamrhosts again.
please pretty please
On September 24 2017 16:06 Twinkle Toes wrote: I'm supposed to sleep already and be early tomorrow, actually that was supposed to happen after game 2, but fuck it right, I need to see game 7!
For the night is Dark, and full of Zerg
adepts are being maximized
and of course game 7 is played on the map that refuses to die
On September 24 2017 16:08 sashkata wrote: Let's see if Dark tries the swamrhosts again.
Or may be nydus ? He once made the kill strats against stats in this tournament with nydus all in.
On September 24 2017 16:15 Twinkle Toes wrote: swarmhost now please
He would have died the same way as last time, so good choice from Dark
so well handled congrats Stats!!!!
S T A T S B O Y S T A T S B O Y S
double warp prisms worked wonders
Not to balance whine too much, but man warp prism is bullshit
the prism in the main living was huge
On September 24 2017 16:19 Topin wrote: the prism in the main living was huge
Definitely.
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 1? ★★★★★ (3)
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 2? ★★★★★ (13)
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 4? ★★★★★ (2)
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 5? ★★★★★ (0)
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 6? ★★★★★ (1)
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Poll: Recommend Stats vs Dark Game 7? ★★★★★ (8)
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very happy to see Stats get this, he has soooo many wcs point lol
Congratulation stats. Great year with 2 starleague wins.
Solar best zerg, at least he's not a kong. i predicted stats 4-2 but still, gg's
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Man that final push was amazing!
warp prism/oracle for infinity harass mothership core for infinite defense chargelot/archon to mop up the rest gg zerg
Stats has been such a beast this year. 2500 points above second place, 5000 points over third.
dude stats is so awesome <3
Wow. Dark usually doesn't lose to a push like that.
Zerg missed first place again ???????Here come the balance complaint flood.....
what a great series, Dark played well but Stats really deserved that, excited for his performance at GSL super tournament and blizzcon
driving force behind the victory? W A R P P R I S M A R P P R I S M
Some of these games were actually quite good. 2.5 hours until the main event of watching Flash destroy everyone.
Such a pity sOs cheeses him out of GSL final...
can we all agree to call dark PRINCE KONG now? kappaUser was warned for this post
On September 24 2017 16:23 yht9657 wrote: Such a pity sOs cheeses him out of GSL final...
yeah that would have been super hype
Another Zerg. Another Kong. A story as old as time
pretty good finals. kind of insane how low the viewership was this time, though
Thank you Princess of the Jin Air Kingdom
On September 24 2017 16:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Thank you Princess of the Jin Air Kingdom
lol
On September 24 2017 16:20 Phredxor wrote: 2017 year of Stats
I dunno, is consistency worth more than trophies? If yes, Stats. If no, Inno.
i hope there is an annoucement for ssl 2018
Jin Air daughter our hero.
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One of soO or Dark will lose in the Blizzcon finals and be crowned as the Kong GOAT...
On September 24 2017 16:28 RKC wrote: One of soO or Dark will lose in the Blizzcon finals and be crowned as the Kong GOAT...
that would be GKOAT...
well that was awesome at the end there
Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Blame Soo and Neeb
On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Because they have no LIFE!
On September 24 2017 16:33 seemsgood wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Because they have no LIFE!
Savage
On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Zerg fan argue it because it is a best of 7 zerg is weaker, but we still see zerg's in finals have 4-3 and 4-2 series all the time. they just don't have the clutch factor I guess.
On September 24 2017 16:33 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 16:33 seemsgood wrote: On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Because they have no LIFE!
Savage
No no. His name's Rogue.
On September 24 2017 16:35 Cricketer12 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 16:33 pvsnp wrote: On September 24 2017 16:33 seemsgood wrote: On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Because they have no LIFE!
Savage
No no. His name's Rogue.
Climax was his best one tbh
On September 24 2017 16:33 youngjiddle wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Zerg fan argue it because it is a best of 7 zerg is weaker, but we still see zerg's in finals have 4-3 and 4-2 series all the time.
they just don't have the clutch factor I guess.
Somebody wins and somebody loses, and it happens to be Zerg more often than not. Sample size for finals is minuscule though, way too small to draw balance conclusions even without the enormous individual player factors. soO for instance throws the numbers way off.
On September 24 2017 16:35 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 16:35 Cricketer12 wrote: On September 24 2017 16:33 pvsnp wrote: On September 24 2017 16:33 seemsgood wrote: On September 24 2017 16:30 Charoisaur wrote: Why can no Zerg win a fucking finals?
Because they have no LIFE!
Savage
No no. His name's Rogue.
Climax was his best one tbh
Not a fan of Ryul2?
I hope the final in blizzcon will be ZvsT/P and this year will become a meme for zerg players.
Congrats to Stats, GG WP!
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So in both seasons of Premier playoffs a zerg player had to fight through 2 matches only to lose in the finals to someone already seeded in, which only strengthens the meme
byuL, dark, soO, am i missing any other SC2 zerg kongs? between the 3 of them....3-18 in finals. that is quite (un)impressive.
On September 24 2017 16:41 yht9657 wrote: So in both seasons of Premier playoffs a zerg player had to fight through 2 matches only to lose in the finals to someone already seeded in, which only strengthens the meme
Getting seeded into the finals gives one hell of a preparation advantage
On September 24 2017 16:52 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 16:41 yht9657 wrote: So in both seasons of Premier playoffs a zerg player had to fight through 2 matches only to lose in the finals to someone already seeded in, which only strengthens the meme
Getting seeded into the finals gives one hell of a preparation advantage
Yea especially when your opponent had been playing the same matchup
On September 24 2017 16:49 LtCalley wrote: byuL, dark, soO, am i missing any other SC2 zerg kongs? between the 3 of them....3-18 in finals. that is quite (un)impressive.
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France 12762 Posts
Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed... About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL? It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals. In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well. Gratz Stats.
On September 24 2017 18:54 Poopi wrote: Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed... About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL? It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals. In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well. Gratz Stats.
Dark and Solar both won SSL last year.
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On September 24 2017 18:57 Phredxor wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 18:54 Poopi wrote: Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed... About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL? It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals. In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well. Gratz Stats.
Dark and Solar both won SSL last year.
So why did someone say not so long ago that zergs didn't win a starleague since HotS? Or maybe they meant GSL but then that's quite a fallacious balance whine.
On September 24 2017 19:02 Poopi wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 18:57 Phredxor wrote: On September 24 2017 18:54 Poopi wrote: Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed... About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL? It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals. In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well. Gratz Stats.
Dark and Solar both won SSL last year.
So why did someone say not so long ago that zergs didn't win a starleague since HotS?
Or maybe they meant GSL but then that's quite a fallacious balance whine.
People like to complain when their race loses. I'd think you would know that
France 12762 Posts
On September 24 2017 19:18 Phredxor wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 19:02 Poopi wrote: On September 24 2017 18:57 Phredxor wrote: On September 24 2017 18:54 Poopi wrote: Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed... About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL? It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals. In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well. Gratz Stats.
Dark and Solar both won SSL last year.
So why did someone say not so long ago that zergs didn't win a starleague since HotS?
Or maybe they meant GSL but then that's quite a fallacious balance whine.
People like to complain when their race loses.
I'd think you would know that
Well terran is the hardest race mechanically so it's sad to see top terrans lose ^^
not much of a fan of pvz these days but okay finals. can't wait til some gameplay changes come along.
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote: Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
I watched the first game live and it was great. Gonna watch the rest on VOD now.
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote: Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
Entertaining yes, very fun build variety.
Poor Dark, he always seems to lose finals when toss or terran are looking OP
On September 25 2017 02:02 buffzerg33 wrote: Vods are not free? WTF
I watched the VOD on youtube just a few hours ago, so I would say that they are
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote: Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark
On September 25 2017 03:12 brickrd wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote: Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark
wouldn't say they were flops more like with adepts it's pretty hard not to get scouted and yes dark tried cheesy builds but in a best of 7 you have to mix it up. it's just near impossible to pull of a cheese in zvp whereas the other way around there's so many builds that can kill zerg
On September 25 2017 03:45 asongdotnet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 25 2017 03:12 brickrd wrote: On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote: Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark
wouldn't say they were flops more like with adepts it's pretty hard not to get scouted and yes dark tried cheesy builds but in a best of 7 you have to mix it up. it's just near impossible to pull of a cheese in zvp whereas the other way around there's so many builds that can kill zerg
Well, in game 1 Dark just blundered the cheese. He dropped lings in the main where there were zero pylons and instead of just killing the main he went to the natural and fought vs pylons.
On September 25 2017 05:38 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On September 25 2017 03:45 asongdotnet wrote: On September 25 2017 03:12 brickrd wrote: On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote: Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark
wouldn't say they were flops more like with adepts it's pretty hard not to get scouted and yes dark tried cheesy builds but in a best of 7 you have to mix it up. it's just near impossible to pull of a cheese in zvp whereas the other way around there's so many builds that can kill zerg
Well, in game 1 Dark just blundered the cheese. He dropped lings in the main where there were zero pylons and instead of just killing the main he went to the natural and fought vs pylons.
also on WW he just made SH, walked them into stats' army and died while trying to run away. that's a flop to me
On September 25 2017 02:09 Sakat wrote: I watched the VOD on youtube just a few hours ago, so I would say that they are
How'd you watch it? I thought I could watch it on YouTube as well but it still hasn't been uploaded yet
On September 25 2017 09:30 geokilla wrote: Show nested quote + On September 25 2017 02:09 Sakat wrote: On September 25 2017 02:02 buffzerg33 wrote: Vods are not free? WTF
I watched the VOD on youtube just a few hours ago, so I would say that they are
How'd you watch it? I thought I could watch it on YouTube as well but it still hasn't been uploaded yet
were you looking at esportstv or esportstv_global? i still get confused sometimes because eng and korean vods used to be on same channel.