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Durnuu
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13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 11:59:47
August 13 2017 12:08 GMT
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Sunday, Aug 13 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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uk SHOUTcraft ([image loading]TotalBiscuit and [image loading]iNcontrol)
fr O'Gaming
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RESULTS
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RECOMMENDED GAMES
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Poll: Recommend Bunny vs INnoVation ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (8)
 
67%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
 
25%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs INnoVation ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend INnoVation vs Zest ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (4)
 
40%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
 
60%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Zest ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Zest vs Serral ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
27%

★★★ - Good game (6)
 
55%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
18%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Zest vs Serral ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Serral vs Squirtle ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
50%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
33%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Squirtle ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Serral vs Ryung ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
13%

★★★ - Good game (5)
 
63%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
25%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Ryung ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
4%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
4%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
 
21%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (20)
 
71%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Kelazhur ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
 
100%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Kelazhur ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Rogue vs TY ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
 
90%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
10%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs TY ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Stats ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
43%

★★★ - Good game (4)
 
57%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Stats ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Dark ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
20%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (9)
 
60%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Dark ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Dear ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
20%

★★★ - Good game (7)
 
70%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
10%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Dear ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Dear vs NoRegret ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (14)
 
78%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
11%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
11%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs NoRegret ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Dear vs Cure ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
38%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
13%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Cure ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Dear vs Nerchio ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
20%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
10%

★★★ - Good game (6)
 
60%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
10%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Nerchio ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Nerchio vs herO ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
13%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
 
63%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
13%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs herO ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend herO vs Neeb ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
17%

★★★ - Good game (5)
 
83%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend herO vs Neeb ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Neeb vs TLO ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
75%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs TLO ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Neeb vs Elazer ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
17%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
67%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs Elazer ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Neeb vs ByuN ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
29%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
43%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
14%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs ByuN ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Neeb vs Bly ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
40%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
20%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
20%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
 
20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs Bly ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season



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>>>> VODS <<<<

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 12:10 GMT
#2
Will ByuN play?
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 12:13 GMT
#3
On August 13 2017 21:10 ByuuN wrote:
Will ByuN play?


It's highly likely but not explicitly confirmed yet.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:14 GMT
#4
BUNNY HYPE
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 12:17 GMT
#5
KING Bunny please
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 13 2017 12:18 GMT
#6
Hahahaha
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 12:18 GMT
#7
Savage af
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:18 GMT
#8
poor Bunny
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3384 Posts
August 13 2017 12:19 GMT
#9
...the machine... MaSa... no, wrong name there... that was pure gold
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 12:19 GMT
#10
Im triggered when they dont properly capitalize names
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:20 GMT
#11
Thanks Ej for the thread template btw
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3384 Posts
August 13 2017 12:21 GMT
#12
On August 13 2017 21:19 Argonauta wrote:
Im triggered when they dont properly capitalize names

same here
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 12:21 GMT
#13
I wonder what Bunny did to TB that he sent out Inno first
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 12:23 GMT
#14
On August 13 2017 21:19 Argonauta wrote:
Im triggered when they dont properly capitalize names


Matches commentated by Total biscuit and InControl btw.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 12:29 GMT
#15
On August 13 2017 21:23 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:19 Argonauta wrote:
Im triggered when they dont properly capitalize names


Matches commentated by Total biscuit and InControl btw.


Total Space Biscuit? You do know that this triggers him

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 13 2017 12:29 GMT
#16
What happened with Bunny, that nobody wanted him into the group in GSL selection? Is he somehow extremely good now?
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 12:32 GMT
#17
On August 13 2017 21:29 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:23 207aicila wrote:
On August 13 2017 21:19 Argonauta wrote:
Im triggered when they dont properly capitalize names


Matches commentated by Total biscuit and InControl btw.


Total Space Biscuit? You do know that this triggers him


Space biscuits sound nice. I'm hungry.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 12:33:31
August 13 2017 12:33 GMT
#18
Did Bunny forget +2 armor?
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:33 GMT
#19
Such a late siege by Bunny, though he still wins the fight
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 13 2017 12:34 GMT
#20
Late siege + down in upgrades. No idea how bunny won that.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 12:34 GMT
#21
On August 13 2017 21:29 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:23 207aicila wrote:
On August 13 2017 21:19 Argonauta wrote:
Im triggered when they dont properly capitalize names


Matches commentated by Total biscuit and InControl btw.


Total Space Biscuit? You do know that this triggers him



Yeah that was half of the joke.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 12:35 GMT
#22
B U N S T E R nooooo
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:36 GMT
#23
Bunny
Poll: Recommend Bunny vs INnoVation ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (8)
 
67%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
 
25%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs INnoVation ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 13 2017 12:36 GMT
#24
Good, Bunny is weak, sOs can get out of his GSL group!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 12:37 GMT
#25
On August 13 2017 21:34 royalroadweed wrote:
Late siege + down in upgrades. No idea how bunny won that.

Bunny's full army vs like 75% of Inno's army.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
August 13 2017 12:37 GMT
#26
C'mon Bogus!
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 12:38 GMT
#27
On August 13 2017 21:36 Diabolique wrote:
Good, Bunny is weak, sOs can get out of his GSL group!

SoS is really bad atm, Bunny beat him in SSL Challenge.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 13 2017 12:40 GMT
#28
Wow, Zest already
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:41 GMT
#29
Battle of the slumpers
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 12:41:44
August 13 2017 12:41 GMT
#30
Bunny was not weak there, he was just outmacroed by the AI, not shame on that.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 13 2017 12:41 GMT
#31
Does Best have one or two hats? With two, he must destroy Innovation.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:43 GMT
#32
Obligatory fuck Acolyte
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 12:43 GMT
#33
On August 13 2017 21:41 Diabolique wrote:
Does Best have one or two hats? With two, he must destroy Innovation.

Best has no hats, I checked his stream.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 12:44 GMT
#34
1 game in TB already feeding INnoVation a code B noob
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 12:46:54
August 13 2017 12:45 GMT
#35
aLive winstreak of 7 is misleading?! He won 4 in a row March and continued to win 3 in a row in June. At prizepool overview he won 4 in March and 7 in June, looks like 11 wins in total.
edit: I mean the winning table
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 13 2017 12:46 GMT
#36
On August 13 2017 21:43 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:41 Diabolique wrote:
Does Best have one or two hats? With two, he must destroy Innovation.

Best has no hats, I checked his stream.


I'm surprise he didn't try to cannon rush.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 12:47 GMT
#37
oh today is Shoutcraft! totally missed that, great I have something to watch now
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 12:49 GMT
#38
Zest is best
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:49 GMT
#39
On August 13 2017 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Zest is best

Code B stands for Code Best
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 12:52 GMT
#40
This feels like the game on Abyssal in the 6 worker start tournament that was broadcast yesterday.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
710 Posts
August 13 2017 12:53 GMT
#41
nice cleanup of those zealots
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 12:53 GMT
#42
wow 10 zealots killing half of Inno's army. so cost-efficient
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 12:53 GMT
#43
That zealot recall did work, wow
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:54 GMT
#44
On August 13 2017 21:53 Charoisaur wrote:
wow 10 zealots killing half of Inno's army. so cost-efficient

That's what happens when you stim to half health and don't have medivacs nearby
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:55 GMT
#45
Inno needs ghosts
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 12:56 GMT
#46
On August 13 2017 21:53 Charoisaur wrote:
wow 10 zealots killing half of Inno's army. so cost-efficient


all I got from that comment is that terran bio is in a dire need of a buff. May I suggest that stimming has no hp penalty
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 12:56 GMT
#47
On August 13 2017 21:55 Durnuu wrote:
Inno needs ghosts


inno needs to stop buffering
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 12:57 GMT
#48
On August 13 2017 21:56 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:55 Durnuu wrote:
Inno needs ghosts


inno needs to stop buffering

Inno needs to gg out
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 12:57 GMT
#49
On August 13 2017 21:56 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:53 Charoisaur wrote:
wow 10 zealots killing half of Inno's army. so cost-efficient


all I got from that comment is that terran bio is in a dire need of a buff. May I suggest that stimming has no hp penalty


You may suggest it; as to how many months it will take for Blizzard to take note is a different matter entirely.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 12:58:45
August 13 2017 12:58 GMT
#50
On August 13 2017 21:56 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:53 Charoisaur wrote:
wow 10 zealots killing half of Inno's army. so cost-efficient


all I got from that comment is that terran bio is in a dire need of a buff. May I suggest that stimming has no hp penalty

alternatively he could just use medivacs to heal them up
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 12:59 GMT
#51
I guess inno doesn't need ghosts
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 12:59 GMT
#52
On August 13 2017 21:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:56 Noonius wrote:
On August 13 2017 21:55 Durnuu wrote:
Inno needs ghosts


inno needs to stop buffering

Inno needs to gg out

I don't think so
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 13:01 GMT
#53
On August 13 2017 21:59 Durnuu wrote:
I guess inno doesn't need ghosts


What's a ghost? Isn't it that thing that got cancelled in 2006 and doesn't exist anymore?
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#54
Poll: Recommend INnoVation vs Zest ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (4)
 
40%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
 
60%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Zest ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#55
On August 13 2017 21:59 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 21:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 13 2017 21:56 Noonius wrote:
On August 13 2017 21:55 Durnuu wrote:
Inno needs ghosts


inno needs to stop buffering

Inno needs to gg out

I don't think so

IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#56
OMG Zestu!
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#57
jesus, soaking up them storms
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#58
Best is Zest!
~~(,,ºº>
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#59
STORMS FOR DAYS
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#60
lategame protoss
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#61
Turns out if there's no ghosts templars build up storms for days
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#62
lol goat can't even beat zest xd
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:02 GMT
#63
I guess he did need ghosts
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:03 GMT
#64
On August 13 2017 21:52 Boggyb wrote:
This feels like the game on Abyssal in the 6 worker start tournament that was broadcast yesterday.

And it went basically the same way.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 13:04 GMT
#65
On August 13 2017 22:02 Durnuu wrote:
I guess he did need ghosts

thing is, with revelation and mass collossus/tempest it's extremely hard to get of emp's on the ghosts
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:05 GMT
#66
On August 13 2017 22:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:02 Durnuu wrote:
I guess he did need ghosts

thing is, with revelation and mass collossus/tempest it's extremely hard to get of emp's on the ghosts

Sure, but it's still better than nothing. Zest just had to spam storms if Inno ever tried to engage
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:06 GMT
#67
Well

RIP Zest I guess
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:06 GMT
#68
finally, a proper sc2 player from a proper country
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:06 GMT
#69
Is Zest's PvZ still garbage ?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:07 GMT
#70
When Serral wins this, is he a king slayer slayer?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:07 GMT
#71
On August 13 2017 22:06 Noonius wrote:
finally, a proper sc2 player from a proper country

Finns can't even beat France according to LRSL
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ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 13:07 GMT
#72
Stormed to death
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:08 GMT
#73
On August 13 2017 22:07 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:06 Noonius wrote:
finally, a proper sc2 player from a proper country

Finns can't even beat France according to LRSL


oh hells no, tell me you didn't go there just now

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:08 GMT
#74
On August 13 2017 22:06 Durnuu wrote:
Is Zest's PvZ still garbage ?

Did he fix all his issues since yesterday? I am somewhat doubtful
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 13:09 GMT
#75
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IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 13:10:25
August 13 2017 13:10 GMT
#76
On August 13 2017 22:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Racist
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 13:12:12
August 13 2017 13:11 GMT
#77
On August 13 2017 22:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

=

[image loading]


I thought posting porn was not allowed here. WHERE ARE ALL THE MODS?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:13 GMT
#78
11 workers to an archon drop weow
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 13:14 GMT
#79
On August 13 2017 22:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
[image loading]

=

[image loading]


Who is the second Zest?
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 13:15 GMT
#80
On August 13 2017 22:14 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
[image loading]

=

[image loading]


Who is the second Zest?

Best
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:15 GMT
#81
This isn't bad for Zest.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 13:16 GMT
#82
On August 13 2017 22:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:14 Argonauta wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
[image loading]

=

[image loading]


Who is the second Zest?

Best

How didnt Know it? Silly me
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 13:18 GMT
#83
why is the protoss the one doing the flank?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:19 GMT
#84
And zerg wins anyway
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:19 GMT
#85
Zest wants banelings hitting his Archons and Immortals, but when he starts losing them all, that's not what he wants.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:20 GMT
#86
Zest played so well and still got wrecked in the end
Needed storm :/
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:20 GMT
#87
On August 13 2017 22:19 Olli wrote:
And zerg wins anyway

what a disgusting overpowered race, why couldn't he just overdrone vs the archon/immortal/chargelot designated pressure at his 4th like a fair and just player?!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:21 GMT
#88
On August 13 2017 22:20 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:19 Olli wrote:
And zerg wins anyway

what a disgusting overpowered race, why couldn't he just overdrone vs the archon/immortal/chargelot designated pressure at his 4th like a fair and just player?!


You mean the one where he ended up behind on supply and with no superior tech to speak of?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:21 GMT
#89
Serral needs Ghosts to EMP all these Archons.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:21 GMT
#90
On August 13 2017 22:21 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:20 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:19 Olli wrote:
And zerg wins anyway

what a disgusting overpowered race, why couldn't he just overdrone vs the archon/immortal/chargelot designated pressure at his 4th like a fair and just player?!


You mean the one where he ended up behind on supply and with no superior tech to speak of?

Yeah this one. If this game was fair, he would've straight up lost the game to Protoss moving out there!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 13:22 GMT
#91
no storm? rip
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:22 GMT
#92
OMG
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:22 GMT
#93
Zest is 2nd best (this game).
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 13:22 GMT
#94
Serral > Innovation
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:22 GMT
#95
On August 13 2017 22:21 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:21 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:20 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:19 Olli wrote:
And zerg wins anyway

what a disgusting overpowered race, why couldn't he just overdrone vs the archon/immortal/chargelot designated pressure at his 4th like a fair and just player?!


You mean the one where he ended up behind on supply and with no superior tech to speak of?

Yeah this one. If this game was fair, he would've straight up lost the game to Protoss moving out there!


Well, perhaps he should have after the 4 poor engagements he took
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 13:22 GMT
#96
Oh nice, finally Serral in Shoutcraft!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:22 GMT
#97
Poll: Recommend Zest vs Serral ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
27%

★★★ - Good game (6)
 
55%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
18%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Zest vs Serral ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
August 13 2017 13:23 GMT
#98
Lol no storm
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:23 GMT
#99
Zest went full Drogo but Serral didn't go full Snute
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1209 Posts
August 13 2017 13:23 GMT
#100
gg Serral!
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:24 GMT
#101
On August 13 2017 22:19 Olli wrote:
And zerg wins anyway


your saltiness sustains me
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
August 13 2017 13:24 GMT
#102
I wonder how many EU players refused to play this SHOUTCraft edition to focus on ladder qualifier for WCS.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:25 GMT
#103
I wanna see Dark 13/12 Serral
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 13:26 GMT
#104
Zests PvZ still not the best. But PvT/P looking insane
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:26 GMT
#105
On August 13 2017 22:23 Elentos wrote:
Zest went full Drogo but Serral didn't go full Snute


Serral is transcending
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:26 GMT
#106
On August 13 2017 22:24 Aeromi wrote:
I wonder how many EU players refused to play this SHOUTCraft edition to focus on ladder qualifier for WCS.


this is better practice anyway, I'd say
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:28 GMT
#107
It's Squirtle
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:28 GMT
#108
Ha I knew it
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 13:28 GMT
#109
oh man this will be a slaughter
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
August 13 2017 13:28 GMT
#110
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 13:29 GMT
#111
today Squirtle, tomorrow TaeJa. Yes, I dream
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 13:29:24
August 13 2017 13:29 GMT
#112
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:29 GMT
#113
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?


He's played LotV for two weeks or so, so no.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:29 GMT
#114
Step 1) Get a player who actually needs exposure and the 500$ for a map win
Step 2) Sacrifice him on the altar of Kings
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:30 GMT
#115
Watch Squirtle lose to 12 pool
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:30 GMT
#116
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:30 GMT
#117
inb4 serral gets cheesed and we have to deal with "foreigners are trash" for next 2h before Nerchio plays
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:31 GMT
#118
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:32 GMT
#119
SuperNova is still decently high level tbh considering he was already retired from competitive play before he started his service.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:32 GMT
#120
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:34 GMT
#121
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

i wish i could warp them in straight into the main
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 13:35:21
August 13 2017 13:34 GMT
#122
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

I was only half joking. If you lose your stargate units, it becomes really hard to scout exactly how the zerg is doing. I had broods, it would make sense to actually have units to support them, considering they're tier 3 and all that.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:34 GMT
#123
On August 13 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

i wish i could warp them in straight into the main

Nydus Worms.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:35 GMT
#124
On August 13 2017 22:34 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

i wish i could warp them in straight into the main

Nydus Worms.

Brb, getting into M1.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:35 GMT
#125
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:36 GMT
#126
On August 13 2017 22:35 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:34 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

i wish i could warp them in straight into the main

Nydus Worms.

Brb, getting into M1.

Alternatively, you can go for an Ulrena build and drop queens/lings on less than 30 drones
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
August 13 2017 13:36 GMT
#127
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

Just mute streams. It works wonderful for me.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 13:36 GMT
#128
Squirtle? Well that's just unfair, but I guess he has to play somebody since he got the invite.

Still, facing Serral in PvZ...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:36 GMT
#129
On August 13 2017 22:36 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:35 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:34 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Olli wrote:
Ha I knew it

Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

i wish i could warp them in straight into the main

Nydus Worms.

Brb, getting into M1.

Alternatively, you can go for an Ulrena build and drop queens/lings on less than 30 drones

You mean the "that big 4 player map where Strange had a draw with Polt" build
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 13:37 GMT
#130
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:37 GMT
#131
On August 13 2017 22:36 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:36 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:34 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:28 Aeromi wrote:
[quote]
Will you whine if he loses?

Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

i wish i could warp them in straight into the main

Nydus Worms.

Brb, getting into M1.

Alternatively, you can go for an Ulrena build and drop queens/lings on less than 30 drones

You mean the "that big 4 player map where Strange had a draw with Polt" build

Invader

How did that even make ladder? Who knows, I ask myself that for most LotV ladder maps.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:38 GMT
#132
On August 13 2017 22:37 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:36 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:36 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:34 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:32 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:29 Durnuu wrote:
[quote]
Yes

Olli is just salty that he was so scared of your 5 brood lords that he let you recover from being down 80 supply

PvZ is rough man, you never know if the Zerg isn't hiding 50 banelings somewhere


You joke, but it's actually true with lings. Lings cost nothing and kill your base if you leave it.

i wish i could warp them in straight into the main

Nydus Worms.

Brb, getting into M1.

Alternatively, you can go for an Ulrena build and drop queens/lings on less than 30 drones

You mean the "that big 4 player map where Strange had a draw with Polt" build

Invader

How did that even make ladder? Who knows, I ask myself that for most LotV ladder maps.

It's CREATIVE™
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 13:39 GMT
#133
good guy Serral letting Squirtle live for the moment
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:40 GMT
#134
RIP
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:40 GMT
#135
God he ate those banes like a Diamond player
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:40 GMT
#136
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Squirtle ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
50%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
33%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Squirtle ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 13:40 GMT
#137
RIP, Squirtle will need some time.

gg
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 13:41 GMT
#138
Well I'm not sure there's any player in Shoutcraft on Squirtle's level but this was certainly a mismatch.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 13:41 GMT
#139
On August 13 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:
Well I'm not sure there's any player in Shoutcraft on Squirtle's level but this was certainly a mismatch.

Is sOs playing?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 13:41 GMT
#140
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


Haha, hit the nail on the head with this one.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:41 GMT
#141
On August 13 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:
Well I'm not sure there's any player in Shoutcraft on Squirtle's level but this was certainly a mismatch.

Maybe not after Zest got eliminated.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2017 13:43 GMT
#142
Weak era players like squirtle just can't cut it in today's strongest era
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 13 2017 13:43 GMT
#143
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 13:44 GMT
#144
On August 13 2017 22:43 Shellshock wrote:
Weak era players like squirtle just can't cut it in today's strongest era

Weak era vs. peak era.
why even
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:46 GMT
#145
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:46 GMT
#146
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

And it upsets a writer out of all people?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2017 13:46 GMT
#147
On August 13 2017 22:44 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:43 Shellshock wrote:
Weak era players like squirtle just can't cut it in today's strongest era

Weak era vs. peak era.

I like it. Olli just mad cause blink all inners are no good anymore
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 13:46 GMT
#148
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.


Almost every narrative pushed in eSports is fake and stupid to be fair.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 13:47 GMT
#149
Squirtle was a free win for whoever played against him tbh
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 13:49:49
August 13 2017 13:48 GMT
#150
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.

that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:50 GMT
#151
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.

that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though.

Logically it makes sense that the skill level increases over time.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 13:50 GMT
#152
On August 13 2017 22:50 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.

that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though.

Logically it makes sense that the skill level increases over time.

I don't see why it would.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 13:51 GMT
#153
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.


Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 13:51 GMT
#154
On August 13 2017 22:50 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.

that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though.

Logically it makes sense that the skill level increases over time.


No, this is only true if the level of competition remains the same or increases.

However in SC2 that is probably the case, so it's fine.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:52 GMT
#155
I expect mech from Ryung
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 13:53 GMT
#156
On August 13 2017 22:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.


Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher

people don't get better the longer they play. as you get older your reaction time decreases and your hands won't move as fast anymore.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 13:54 GMT
#157
On August 13 2017 22:52 Durnuu wrote:
I expect mech from Ryung

He better go mech on mech depot too
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
August 13 2017 13:54 GMT
#158
On August 13 2017 22:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.


Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher


Or they break their wrists, necks, backs, and eventually can't play to the level they used to play. MVP at top form would, I believe, still beat any player playing today.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:55 GMT
#159
This indeed looks like a mech build.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 13:56 GMT
#160
On August 13 2017 22:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:51 Fango wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.


Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher

people don't get better the longer they play. as you get older your reaction time decreases and your hands won't move as fast anymore.


At a certain point yes (if you're getting closer to 30 maybe). But for the most part your skill increases with hours played.

Look at Inno, TY, Stats, ByuN etc. These guys took 5-10 years of professional play before they reached the top
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 13:56:58
August 13 2017 13:56 GMT
#161
On August 13 2017 22:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 22:51 Fango wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before?

I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.


It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.

So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.

logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.


Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher

people don't get better the longer they play. as you get older your reaction time decreases and your hands won't move as fast anymore.

Zest. ByuN.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 13:58 GMT
#162
M E C H d e p o t
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 13:59 GMT
#163
I never see Hellions or Hellbats do well versus mass queens.
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 13:59 GMT
#164
Stream lags at 360p.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 14:00 GMT
#165
On August 13 2017 22:59 ByuuN wrote:
Stream lags at 360p.

It doesn't. Move out of Sosnowiec.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 14:00 GMT
#166
On August 13 2017 22:59 ByuuN wrote:
Stream lags at 360p.

It's fine for me.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:00 GMT
#167
Serral showing play worthy of the strongest era!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:01 GMT
#168
On August 13 2017 22:59 Boggyb wrote:
I never see Hellions or Hellbats do well versus mass queens.

I never see units doing well vs mass queens.
At least in low supply situations
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 14:01 GMT
#169
Somewhere Avilo wakes up screaming.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:02 GMT
#170
wow Serral playing well in the highest skill era.
in 2014-15 he would've won every GSL with this play
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:02 GMT
#171
Revealing swarm hosts against a barracks?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:04 GMT
#172
On August 13 2017 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
wow Serral playing well in the highest skill era.
in 2014-15 he would've won every GSL with this play

Elentos would have won GSL back in Fruitdealer's days tbh
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2017 14:04 GMT
#173
On August 13 2017 23:02 Charoisaur wrote:
wow Serral playing well in the highest skill era.
in 2014-15 he would've won every GSL with this play

Probably. If you send him back to 2012 in a time machine he prob wins 9 straight gsls
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 14:05 GMT
#174
Hi-sec autotracking hype
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 14:06:15
August 13 2017 14:05 GMT
#175
On August 13 2017 23:05 Ej_ wrote:
Hi-sec autotracking hype

Did he get building armor too ? I wasn't paying attention
EDIT : it was on the way but died, RIP
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:06 GMT
#176
On August 13 2017 23:05 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:05 Ej_ wrote:
Hi-sec autotracking hype

Did he get building armor too ? I wasn't paying attention

That monster Serral just denied it.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 14:08:41
August 13 2017 14:07 GMT
#177
BC transition?
edit: Boo
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
August 13 2017 14:10 GMT
#178
Someone needs to quickly tell Ryung that tank-centric mech ain't a thing vs T3 anymore
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:11 GMT
#179
Ryung needs more CCs.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 14:11 GMT
#180
On August 13 2017 23:10 Lyyna wrote:
Someone needs to quickly tell Ryung that tank-centric mech ain't a thing vs T3 anymore

I hope he has the mech discor on speed dial!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
August 13 2017 14:12 GMT
#181
On August 13 2017 23:11 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:10 Lyyna wrote:
Someone needs to quickly tell Ryung that tank-centric mech ain't a thing vs T3 anymore

I hope he has the mech discor on speed dial!

There is a mech discord and i wasn't invited ?

Damnit, it's been too long since i made a guide to get some internet attention.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 14:12 GMT
#182
Need nukes
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:13 GMT
#183
On August 13 2017 23:12 Ansibled wrote:
Need nukes

Terran always needs nukes tbh
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 14:14 GMT
#184
long ass games today, it's gonna take forever
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:15 GMT
#185
On August 13 2017 23:14 Noonius wrote:
long ass games today, it's gonna take forever

Yeah. It doesn't help that all the maps in the pool are super big macro maps
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 13 2017 14:15 GMT
#186
this looked like one of the scripted exhibition games casted by day9

I am loving it though :D
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:16 GMT
#187
should have continued counter-attacking. Serral didn't have much on the ground
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 13 2017 14:18 GMT
#188
Serral needs mass banelings
Liquipedia"Expert"
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 14:18 GMT
#189
Time to go full Nestea on that Nada-esque Thor army
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:19 GMT
#190
Not sure what Ryung's plan was. No ravens, no BCs, but no push either
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 14:19 GMT
#191
TB really wants to see some battlecruisers today.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#192
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Ryung ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
13%

★★★ - Good game (5)
 
63%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
25%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Ryung ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#193
Needed ravens, or ghosts, or BCs. Thors don't cut it
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#194
the SHs did so much damage
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#195
Now follow this up with Gumiho.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#196
Yeah Nestea's way was way cooler.

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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#197
Great game by Serral
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#198
Wooow, what a game
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 14:20 GMT
#199
28 minute game. WHAT YEAR IS THIS?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
August 13 2017 14:21 GMT
#200
Sick game :o great streak by Serral!
~~(,,ºº>
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 13 2017 14:21 GMT
#201
TB stop sending these noob Koreans to the Finnish god plz
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
August 13 2017 14:21 GMT
#202
On August 13 2017 23:20 Fango wrote:
Needed ravens, or ghosts, or BCs. Thors don't cut it

Thors can be fine, but he went for it way too late & wasted too much money on mines. Could have stutter stepped & OS'd BLs in most fights while hellbats cleared the ground ...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 13 2017 14:21 GMT
#203
Thors are cool and all but building a lot of them does not work since Thorzains TSL victory
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 14:23 GMT
#204
On August 13 2017 23:21 Isualin wrote:
Thors are cool and all but building a lot of them does not work since Thorzains TSL victory


Gumiho used a lot of them vs soO during the GSL finals.

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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:23 GMT
#205
On August 13 2017 23:21 Lyyna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:20 Fango wrote:
Needed ravens, or ghosts, or BCs. Thors don't cut it

Thors can be fine, but he went for it way too late & wasted too much money on mines. Could have stutter stepped & OS'd BLs in most fights while hellbats cleared the ground ...

I think the problem was the disparity in economy
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:23 GMT
#206
ZvZ is not more exciting.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 14:23 GMT
#207
On August 13 2017 23:23 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:21 Isualin wrote:
Thors are cool and all but building a lot of them does not work since Thorzains TSL victory


Gumiho used a lot of them vs soO during the GSL finals.

https://youtu.be/lWBKsYm5b40?t=1m50s

I saw GuMiho make 10+ thors and 4 tanks vs Snute and murder BL/SH with it so
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10077 Posts
August 13 2017 14:24 GMT
#208
oh boy
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 14:24 GMT
#209
YESSSS!!!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
August 13 2017 14:24 GMT
#210
On August 13 2017 23:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:21 Lyyna wrote:
On August 13 2017 23:20 Fango wrote:
Needed ravens, or ghosts, or BCs. Thors don't cut it

Thors can be fine, but he went for it way too late & wasted too much money on mines. Could have stutter stepped & OS'd BLs in most fights while hellbats cleared the ground ...

I think the problem was the disparity in economy

Yeah, but it was caused because the initial situation had him with a tank army vs the initial broodlords.

And ofc SH
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:24 GMT
#211
Should have brought up Dark to stomp him, then Rogue to stomp Dark, then give us actual good games.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:25 GMT
#212
This is exciting! Rogue vs top EU Zerg hype!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:25 GMT
#213
No 13/12 from Rogue, WEAK
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 14:26:38
August 13 2017 14:25 GMT
#214
people always talk about european zvz being so good but then Dark who is the worst ZvZer out of the top korean zergs just casually goes 9-1 against the 3 best european Zergs.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 14:25 GMT
#215
On August 13 2017 23:25 Durnuu wrote:
No 13/12 from Rogue, WEAK

Rogue doesn't need cheese to win a ZvZ.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:30 GMT
#216
Rogue looking good!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 14:31 GMT
#217
The Elazer overlord production
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:32 GMT
#218
On August 13 2017 23:31 Elentos wrote:
The Elazer overlord production

More like E-lazy amiright ?
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 14:33:26
August 13 2017 14:32 GMT
#219
On August 13 2017 23:25 Charoisaur wrote:
people always talk about european zvz being so good but then Dark who is the worst ZvZer out of the top korean zergs just casually goes 9-1 against the 3 best european Zergs.

Well it's not just people, Rogue himself said he went 0-6 or something vs Elazer on ladder before their GSL group. Elazer had 80% ZvZ against the absolute top zergs like Rogue, Dark and soO and was really suprised by this, but got completely stomped by Terran ang got angry about how bad EU Terrans are .

But I agree that Dark vs foreign zergs is really funny, always looking forward to those games.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:35 GMT
#220
Uh, that was too tricky Rogue.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:36 GMT
#221
Concave vs. convex. Easy call.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 14:38:02
August 13 2017 14:37 GMT
#222
Rogue sacrifices roaches for harassment and despite having an hydra den, remakes roaches.
Someone tell me why
E : as I say that, 7 hydras
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2017 14:41 GMT
#223
serral playing like a bonjwa
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 14:43 GMT
#224
Even the ZvZ is long today
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:43 GMT
#225
That bank from Serral.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 14:44 GMT
#226
I don't play zerg so correct me if I'm wrong, but surely Rogue could have just made like 8 broodlords and won?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:45 GMT
#227
On August 13 2017 23:44 Fango wrote:
I don't play zerg so correct me if I'm wrong, but surely Rogue could have just made like 8 broodlords and won?

Instant tech switches.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 14:45 GMT
#228
serral got this game tho
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 13 2017 14:46 GMT
#229
Rogue is no SoO
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:47 GMT
#230
this game is bonkers
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 13 2017 14:47 GMT
#231
Woah
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:47 GMT
#232
Serral's bank is gone, Rogue did really well.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 14:47 GMT
#233
Never seen a fight more messy lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 14:48:14
August 13 2017 14:47 GMT
#234
well its the first time I see that fight ever
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:48 GMT
#235
Rogue has taken so many bad fights this game.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:48 GMT
#236
great fight from Serral, this game man
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:48 GMT
#237
This game just confirms Rogue is in a slump after IEM
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 14:49 GMT
#238
ZvZ is the best mirror.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 14:49 GMT
#239
On August 13 2017 23:49 Ej_ wrote:
ZvZ is the best mirror.

TvT > ZvZ > PvP
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 14:49:43
August 13 2017 14:49 GMT
#240
On August 13 2017 23:49 Ej_ wrote:
ZvZ is the best mirror.

(as long as there is no 13/12)
On August 13 2017 23:49 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:49 Ej_ wrote:
ZvZ is the best mirror.

TvT > ZvZ > PvP

Do you enjoy proxy reapers so much ?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 14:50 GMT
#241
On August 13 2017 23:49 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:49 Ej_ wrote:
ZvZ is the best mirror.

(as long as there is no 13/12)
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:49 Ansibled wrote:
On August 13 2017 23:49 Ej_ wrote:
ZvZ is the best mirror.

TvT > ZvZ > PvP

Do you enjoy proxy reapers so much ?

13/12 makes more sense than that viper/fungal/wtf fight
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:50 GMT
#242
This game is one bad engage from ending, but Serral is up.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
August 13 2017 14:51 GMT
#243
Lol, six ultras incoming. Let's go, space cows.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 14:51 GMT
#244
serral is 3-0ing Rogue?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 13 2017 14:51 GMT
#245
Is Serral about to pull off a "Ultras into loss"?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:51 GMT
#246
Serral, you're not going to be up for much longer if you do that.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:52 GMT
#247
This game needs more cracklings runby
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:53 GMT
#248
On August 13 2017 23:51 Heartland wrote:
serral is 3-0ing Rogue?

No, but he beat Zest, Squirtle and Ryung before he played Rogue.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10077 Posts
August 13 2017 14:53 GMT
#249
On August 13 2017 23:53 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:51 Heartland wrote:
serral is 3-0ing Rogue?

No, but he beat Zest, Squirtle and Ryung before he played Rogue.

how was squirtle form?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 13 2017 14:54 GMT
#250
Can you neural ultras?
Liquipedia"Expert"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 14:54 GMT
#251
On August 13 2017 23:53 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:53 Musicus wrote:
On August 13 2017 23:51 Heartland wrote:
serral is 3-0ing Rogue?

No, but he beat Zest, Squirtle and Ryung before he played Rogue.

how was squirtle form?

He's a masters 1 player playing against a pro and that's how the game looked.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 14:54 GMT
#252
On August 13 2017 23:53 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 23:53 Musicus wrote:
On August 13 2017 23:51 Heartland wrote:
serral is 3-0ing Rogue?

No, but he beat Zest, Squirtle and Ryung before he played Rogue.

how was squirtle form?

Hm, he needs a lot more time, it was not close.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:55 GMT
#253
what is this game
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 14:55 GMT
#254
On August 13 2017 23:54 Inflicted wrote:
Can you neural ultras?

Nope, ultras have Frenzy.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 14:55 GMT
#255
On August 13 2017 23:54 Inflicted wrote:
Can you neural ultras?

no
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:56 GMT
#256
Hydras counter Broodlords to a point.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 14:56 GMT
#257
TIL ZvZ can last this long
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 14:58 GMT
#258
Jesus those parasitic bombs.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 14:59 GMT
#259
If Rogue split his BLs up he won this game
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:00:27
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#260
Can't believe I am missing that zvz. It sound like so much fun.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#261
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
4%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
4%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
 
21%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (20)
 
71%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#262
DESTROYED
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#263
Great game, GG!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#264
Gosh darn it.
why even
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#265
What a game!!!!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#266
That was not bad.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#267
36 minute ZvZ.

Wow.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#268
Rogue too good.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#269
Rogue deserves a lot more than $500 for that win.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:00 GMT
#270
Best korean zerg > european ZvZ
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 15:01 GMT
#271
finally a zvz worth watching
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
August 13 2017 15:01 GMT
#272
Sick ZvZ. Can't help but feel bad for Serral - had he anticipated Brood Lords quick enough he would have been in a great position (given how he had triple the bank Rouge had).
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:01 GMT
#273
When people recommend a ZvZ, you know it is good.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 15:01 GMT
#274
why even
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:02 GMT
#275
On August 14 2017 00:01 D-light wrote:
https://twitter.com/ENCE_Serral/status/896747888851775488

Ultra into lose, foreigner losing to a korean.
It's HotS all over again
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
August 13 2017 15:02 GMT
#276
Excellent shoutcraft! Thumbs up
~~(,,ºº>
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 15:02 GMT
#277
I wish Serral pulled a page from Nerchio and went for late game Nydus worm. I love when Nerchio does that. It can be great
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 13 2017 15:02 GMT
#278
On August 14 2017 00:01 D-light wrote:
https://twitter.com/ENCE_Serral/status/896747888851775488

Well, it helps when a man understands his mistakes even if in hindsight
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 15:03 GMT
#279
what beated ultras was that infested marine wall, really clever form rogue
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 15:03 GMT
#280
On August 14 2017 00:01 D-light wrote:
https://twitter.com/ENCE_Serral/status/896747888851775488

Ah, we missed out on Symbol vs RorO 2.0...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 15:03 GMT
#281
On August 14 2017 00:00 Durnuu wrote:
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
4%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
4%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
 
21%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (20)
 
71%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season



Ban the 1-star tbh.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 15:05 GMT
#282
On August 14 2017 00:03 Argonauta wrote:
what beated ultras was that infested marine wall, really clever form rogue

It's a normal thing to do and one of the reasons why ultras blow versus Zerg
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 15:05 GMT
#283
On August 14 2017 00:03 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:00 Durnuu wrote:
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
4%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
4%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
 
21%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (20)
 
71%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season



Ban the 1-star tbh.

Let's find him
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 15:05 GMT
#284
On August 14 2017 00:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:03 Argonauta wrote:
what beated ultras was that infested marine wall, really clever form rogue

It's a normal thing to do and one of the reasons why ultras blow versus Zerg


maybe I dont see it that much cause 30 min ZvZ are not often idn
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:06:02
August 13 2017 15:05 GMT
#285
3 hours in, only 6 games played
We need smaller maps
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 15:06 GMT
#286
Oh another Shoutcraft tournament?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 15:06 GMT
#287
On August 14 2017 00:05 Durnuu wrote:
3 hours in, only 6 games played
We need smaller maps

Rotate in Fruitland
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:07 GMT
#288
On August 14 2017 00:05 Durnuu wrote:We need smaller maps

Or players not play turtle mech.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:08 GMT
#289
I feel like Rogue's ZvT is his strongest matchup recently...
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 13 2017 15:08 GMT
#290
Rogue should have been the GSL Season 2 Champion anyway.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 15:08 GMT
#291
On August 14 2017 00:03 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:00 Durnuu wrote:
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
4%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
4%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
 
21%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (20)
 
71%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rogue ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season



Ban the 1-star tbh.


it's difficult to ban a mod

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:09 GMT
#292
INC 3 rax reaper.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 15:09 GMT
#293
On August 14 2017 00:06 Ansibled wrote:
Oh another Shoutcraft tournament?


TeamCraft
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:09 GMT
#294
On August 14 2017 00:09 Boggyb wrote:
INC 3 rax reaper.

Nah proxy 2 rax, 3 rax reaper is so passé
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 13 2017 15:09 GMT
#295
Kelazhur suffered victory at the GSL vs World, stop praising it so much.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:10:35
August 13 2017 15:09 GMT
#296
I feel like Kelazhur will always be defined by having a 3-0 record against TY

edit: I know they were all proxys but no one remembers how someone wins, just that they win
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 15:09 GMT
#297
On August 14 2017 00:08 Diabolique wrote:
Rogue should have been the GSL Season 2 Champion anyway.

A lie repeated in 1 hundred threads doesn't become a truth.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:10 GMT
#298
Rogue should know this is coming.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 15:10 GMT
#299
Rogue vs Kela first time ever?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:12 GMT
#300
Kela is destined to proxy every korean he meets
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 15:12 GMT
#301
Bunker rushing with marines, how original.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:13 GMT
#302
That wasn't great from Kelazhur, especially since he's the weaker player.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 13 2017 15:14 GMT
#303
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me
TL+ Member
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:15 GMT
#304
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me

The casting is more hype than analysis.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 15:15 GMT
#305
gg
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:17 GMT
#306
Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Kelazhur ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
 
100%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Kelazhur ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:17 GMT
#307
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:18 GMT
#308
Now we need a Protoss, right? Give us herO and a replay of Swarmhost Nydus.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:18 GMT
#309
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:19 GMT
#310
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 13 2017 15:20 GMT
#311
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

dunno really, but "forcing lings" isnt enough. terran way to behind in eco and tech after that
TL+ Member
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 15:21 GMT
#312
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?


Pretty much.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:21 GMT
#313
Casters still talking about TY's sensor tower from 2014 lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 15:21 GMT
#314
kela didnt even kill a queen
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:23:07
August 13 2017 15:22 GMT
#315
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Not necessarily.
Proxy 2 rax really doesn't need to do much to put you even at worst. Just force a big/long enough drone pull, lings, and you're even.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:22 GMT
#316
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:23 GMT
#317
On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.


I suppose. Still don't agree with TBs call of Kela being so ahead
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 13 2017 15:23 GMT
#318
On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.

so you thought the game was even after the two rax?
TL+ Member
Meeii
Profile Joined July 2015
155 Posts
August 13 2017 15:23 GMT
#319
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?


If you kill the natural you're ahead (and almost sure to win you don't lose to some counter attack).

But I'm sure it depends on how you go from there to. Kel went for early gases and factory/starport but you can also get for an early second base yourself. It's a bit more risky tough.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:25:08
August 13 2017 15:24 GMT
#320
On August 14 2017 00:22 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Not necessarily.
Proxy 2 rax really doesn't need to do much to put you even at worst. Just force a big/long enough drone pull, lings, and you're even.

Maybe, but there are two major differences between that game and this:
1) Rogue is a quality Zerg
2) INnoVation is a quality Terran
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 15:25 GMT
#321
On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.

so you thought the game was even after the two rax?

This one wasn't.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:25:57
August 13 2017 15:25 GMT
#322
On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.

so you thought the game was even after the two rax?

Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first? So basically it did less than usual.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:26:43
August 13 2017 15:25 GMT
#323
On August 14 2017 00:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.

so you thought the game was even after the two rax?

Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first?

Yeah Rogue went gas/pool/hatch
On August 14 2017 00:24 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:22 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Not necessarily.
Proxy 2 rax really doesn't need to do much to put you even at worst. Just force a big/long enough drone pull, lings, and you're even.

Maybe, but there are two major differences between that game and this:
1) Rogue is a quality Zerg
2) INnoVation is a quality Terran

I could certainly find a better, more recent example, but this was the one I remembered off the top of my head.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 15:26 GMT
#324
On August 14 2017 00:23 Meeii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?


If you kill the natural you're ahead (and almost sure to win you don't lose to some counter attack).

But I'm sure it depends on how you go from there to. Kel went for early gases and factory/starport but you can also get for an early second base yourself. It's a bit more risky tough.

No, the followup is always fact->CC->reactor->starport->banshee w/ cloak
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:26 GMT
#325
On August 14 2017 00:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.

so you thought the game was even after the two rax?

Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first?


Kela only just started his second CC. Rogue would have gotten very far ahead in workers and saturated his third but chose to go allin
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 15:28 GMT
#326
8 min roach max incoming
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:29 GMT
#327
On August 14 2017 00:28 DJHelium wrote:
8 min roach max incoming

He's making a few lings, cheater
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 15:30 GMT
#328
8 min roach max
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:30 GMT
#329
Poll: Recommend Rogue vs TY ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
 
90%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
10%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs TY ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 13 2017 15:30 GMT
#330
Yeah gonna be herO next
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:30 GMT
#331
I really wanted to see TY's lategame TvZ again
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:31 GMT
#332
On August 14 2017 00:26 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:25 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote:
kela is ahead? what?
seems pretty far behind to me


Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right?

If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead.


If you don't, surely you're behind though?

Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play.

so you thought the game was even after the two rax?

Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first?


Kela only just started his second CC. Rogue would have gotten very far ahead in workers and saturated his third but chose to go allin

I refer you to Serral vs ByuN from GSL vs The World where ByuN's opening went similarly poorly and his banshees did nothing but he was fine.

These 1/1 roach/ravager timings are a fucking pain in the ass to hold
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 15:31 GMT
#333
On August 14 2017 00:29 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:28 DJHelium wrote:
8 min roach max incoming

He's making a few lings, cheater


What a scrub!

Btw results link in OP shows June
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 15:31 GMT
#334
Wonderful to see Rogue doing well :D
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:31 GMT
#335
On August 14 2017 00:31 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:29 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:28 DJHelium wrote:
8 min roach max incoming

He's making a few lings, cheater


What a scrub!

Btw results link in OP shows June

Oh yeah my bad, I copied Ej's thread from June and forgot to correct it.
TY
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:32 GMT
#336
Last year TY would have destroyed Rogue's entire army with 2 tanks by kiting across the map

Now 2 tanks do nothing
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bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
August 13 2017 15:39 GMT
#337
TY went for a 3 CC build. Its a great build but you must be on top of your scouting. Rouge attacked just a bit before TYs eco would have converted into a huge army.

TY was lazy with his scouting, didn't realize its roach ravager, so he didn't have the tanks/maruders/libs to hold it.
Rouge scouted well what TY was doing, so he went for what TY's build was weak against. (3 CC is a lot of marines early on, but no tanks...).

5 sieged Tanks and Rouges army would have failed...
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:40 GMT
#338
Stats. Trying to make this hard for Rogue. I was hoping for a scrub like Neeb to give Rogue some free money.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 15:42 GMT
#339
On August 14 2017 00:40 Boggyb wrote:
Stats. Trying to make this hard for Rogue. I was hoping for a scrub like Neeb to give Rogue some free money.


If Rogue dies to a KR toss, then he can bring out Neeb.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:44:16
August 13 2017 15:43 GMT
#340
On August 14 2017 00:42 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:40 Boggyb wrote:
Stats. Trying to make this hard for Rogue. I was hoping for a scrub like Neeb to give Rogue some free money.


If Rogue dies to a KR toss, then he can bring out Neeb.

ZvZ can be good if it gets to tech which it almost never does. PvP is bad always, so let's not see that.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:45 GMT
#341
On August 14 2017 00:43 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:42 207aicila wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:40 Boggyb wrote:
Stats. Trying to make this hard for Rogue. I was hoping for a scrub like Neeb to give Rogue some free money.


If Rogue dies to a KR toss, then he can bring out Neeb.

ZvZ can be good if it gets to tech which it almost never does. PvP is bad always, so let's not see that.

You need to watch more PvP. It's in a decent spot right now, aside from the problem that has always plagued it in LotV : lack of different openers.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:45 GMT
#342
2nd oracle isn't unusual. The 3rd is when things get interesting.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 15:46 GMT
#343
On August 14 2017 00:43 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:42 207aicila wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:40 Boggyb wrote:
Stats. Trying to make this hard for Rogue. I was hoping for a scrub like Neeb to give Rogue some free money.


If Rogue dies to a KR toss, then he can bring out Neeb.

ZvZ can be good if it gets to tech which it almost never does. PvP is bad always, so let's not see that.


Not so much from a matchup perspective but rather in terms of storyline / upset potential.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:48 GMT
#344
Super fast storm.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:50 GMT
#345
Lurker against templar/immortal?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 15:51 GMT
#346
wow they added dark archons
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 15:51 GMT
#347
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:52 GMT
#348
Rogue is so good
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
August 13 2017 15:52 GMT
#349
These skins actually look pretty nice to spectate.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:52 GMT
#350
If ToD were here, we know what he'd say.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 15:52 GMT
#351
Rogue is decent
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:52 GMT
#352
Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Stats ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
43%

★★★ - Good game (4)
 
57%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Stats ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:54:43
August 13 2017 15:53 GMT
#353
On August 14 2017 00:39 bulya wrote:
TY went for a 3 CC build. Its a great build but you must be on top of your scouting. Rouge attacked just a bit before TYs eco would have converted into a huge army.

TY was lazy with his scouting, didn't realize its roach ravager, so he didn't have the tanks/maruders/libs to hold it.
Rouge scouted well what TY was doing, so he went for what TY's build was weak against. (3 CC is a lot of marines early on, but no tanks...).

5 sieged Tanks and Rouges army would have failed...

TY started making tanks before he even saw the first roaches on the map. That timing is hard as hell to hold with TY's opening no matter what.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 15:53 GMT
#354
*nod nod wink wink join plz*
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 15:53 GMT
#355
Rogue is playing out of his mind. Impressive.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 15:53 GMT
#356
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 15:56 GMT
#357
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them

But did Squirtle look any good?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:56 GMT
#358
Ok more money for Rogue
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 15:57:46
August 13 2017 15:56 GMT
#359
Dark doesn't have a weak matchup? Has TB not seen Dark play a Korean Zerg in 2017?
edit: According to Aligulac, ZvZ is Dark's weakest current match up.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:56 GMT
#360
On August 14 2017 00:56 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them

But did Squirtle look any good?

It was a masters player playing a pro.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2017 15:57 GMT
#361
Rogue > peak stephano
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 15:57 GMT
#362
On August 14 2017 00:56 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them

But did Squirtle look any good?


No, lots of small, sloppy mistakes.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 15:57 GMT
#363
On August 14 2017 00:56 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them

But did Squirtle look any good?

well.. he plays lotv since a few weeks so... is this really a question?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
August 13 2017 15:57 GMT
#364
Looking at the minimap I thought it was sequencer. Only then realized its acolyte.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:58 GMT
#365
Dark usually only beats low tier Korean Zergs and any tier foreign Zergs.

Probably not gonna be a good match.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:58 GMT
#366
On August 14 2017 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Ok more money for Rogue

You lack faith.
Dark's ZvZ is about to be his best matchup, he's preparing for GSL ro16 after all.
(i hope so anyway)
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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
August 13 2017 15:59 GMT
#367
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them


the machine is known for playing poorly in online tournaments, sometimes he even types out in an even game, like he doesn't want to play.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 15:59 GMT
#368
On August 14 2017 00:58 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Ok more money for Rogue

You lack faith.
Dark's ZvZ is about to be his best matchup, he's preparing for GSL ro16 after all.
(i hope so anyway)

When he loses you can say he's hiding builds at least.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 15:59 GMT
#369
On August 14 2017 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:56 Penev wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them

But did Squirtle look any good?

It was a masters player playing a pro.

ahh, too bad

should invite him for the next LRSL then
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 15:59 GMT
#370
On August 14 2017 00:58 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Ok more money for Rogue

You lack faith.
Dark's ZvZ is about to be his best matchup, he's preparing for GSL ro16 after all.
(i hope so anyway)

You know who is also preparing for ZvZ for GSL ro16? ROGUE.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 15:59 GMT
#371
On August 14 2017 00:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:58 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Ok more money for Rogue

You lack faith.
Dark's ZvZ is about to be his best matchup, he's preparing for GSL ro16 after all.
(i hope so anyway)

When he loses you can say he's hiding builds at least.

Hiding the 13/12
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:00 GMT
#372
On August 14 2017 00:59 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:58 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Ok more money for Rogue

You lack faith.
Dark's ZvZ is about to be his best matchup, he's preparing for GSL ro16 after all.
(i hope so anyway)

You know who is also preparing for ZvZ for GSL ro16? ROGUE.

Rogue is in a slump, so it doesn't matter
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 16:00 GMT
#373
On August 14 2017 00:59 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them


the machine is known for playing poorly in online tournaments, sometimes he even types out in an even game, like he doesn't want to play.

He's as known for that in 2017 as Rain is known for his cheesy play.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 16:02 GMT
#374
On August 14 2017 01:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 00:59 ParksonVN wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:53 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 00:51 Penev wrote:
shiiiit I forgot about this

also :o Zesty wins against Inno

also :O Squirtle!?


Believe it or not Zest has played Inno 3 times in the last week and gone 4-5 against him. Very even between them


the machine is known for playing poorly in online tournaments, sometimes he even types out in an even game, like he doesn't want to play.

He's as known for that in 2017 as Rain is known for his cheesy play.

ahaha
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:04 GMT
#375
Uh, what was that Dark?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 16:05 GMT
#376
that was brilliant by Rogue. sending a single roach across the map to make the mutas turn around
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:05 GMT
#377
On August 14 2017 01:05 Charoisaur wrote:
that was brilliant by Rogue. sending a single roach across the map to make the mutas turn around

He sent all his roaches another way tho, Dark had to turn around anyway
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 16:06 GMT
#378
Daaaaaaaaark! :D
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 16:06 GMT
#379
Of all matches Rogue could have lost, it's this one? Of course, why wouldn't it be
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:06 GMT
#380
Completely overteched, oh well
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 16:06 GMT
#381
Dark winning a zvz?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 16:07 GMT
#382
Rogue is broke, Zest is best
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:07 GMT
#383
That is the longest engagement I've ever seen
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 16:07 GMT
#384
TB's chat is interesting, arguing what is greater, Rick and Morty or Futurama
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:09:10
August 13 2017 16:08 GMT
#385
On August 14 2017 01:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TB's chat is interesting, arguing what is greater, Rick and Morty or Futurama

Both suck, pretty easy
Jokes aside, Rick and Morty is so overhyped it makes me not want to check it out, ever
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:09 GMT
#386
On August 14 2017 01:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TB's chat is interesting, arguing what is greater, Rick and Morty or Futurama


Futurama is the best ofc. But if you give R&M another 5 season it could easily surpass it
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 16:10 GMT
#387
On August 14 2017 01:08 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TB's chat is interesting, arguing what is greater, Rick and Morty or Futurama

Both suck, pretty easy
Jokes aside, Rick and Morty is so overhyped it makes me not want to check it out, ever

How do you know it's "overhyped" when you didn't check it out ?!?!
I don't understand that logic at all btw, not trying something because lots of people like it

Both are great shows btw
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 16:10 GMT
#388
holy sexy boi
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 16:11 GMT
#389
Dark should have won this game...
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:11 GMT
#390
On August 14 2017 01:08 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TB's chat is interesting, arguing what is greater, Rick and Morty or Futurama

Both suck, pretty easy
Jokes aside, Rick and Morty is so overhyped it makes me not want to check it out, ever


R&M is still great though. Hype aside, it's one of the best shows to come out in a long time
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:12:01
August 13 2017 16:11 GMT
#391
what Rogue did it? lol

apparently not yet
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:11 GMT
#392
This is ending in a muta vs muta fight, lol
And Dark loses
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:12 GMT
#393
TB, you should check upgrades before talking about prioritizing armor over attack...
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:13 GMT
#394
Dark pls
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:13 GMT
#395
GG.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:13 GMT
#396
How tf did Dark lose that
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:13 GMT
#397
Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Dark ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
20%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (9)
 
60%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Dark ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 16:13 GMT
#398
OMG OMG OMG OMG
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:13 GMT
#399
Rogue holy shit :O
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 16:14 GMT
#400
Really fun game, thought Rogue was dead for sure!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 16:14 GMT
#401
big comeback by rogue.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:14 GMT
#402
What a man. I thought he was dead !
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:14 GMT
#403
Rogue is actually insane. Who beats this kid?!
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 16:14 GMT
#404
ZvZ best mirror
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:15 GMT
#405
On August 14 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
How tf did Dark lose that

He had a huge advantage after those baneling hits but then made the foolish decision to continue to rally roaches across the map rather than pulling back and pooling up.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:15 GMT
#406
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:16 GMT
#407
Dear ? Nice
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 16:16 GMT
#408
If anybody can kill Rogue is Dear
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 16:16 GMT
#409
That Rogue vs Dark game was really good
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:17:35
August 13 2017 16:17 GMT
#410
Dear has been great in SSL recently, but that's about it and no great versus Zerg results since ByuL is bad.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:17 GMT
#411
I never understood how terrans lose to Dear. Just widowmine drop like 2 places at once and he wont react
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 16:18 GMT
#412
On August 14 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
ZvZ best mirror


lets not get carried away here

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:19:38
August 13 2017 16:18 GMT
#413
On August 14 2017 01:17 Fango wrote:
I never understood how terrans lose to Dear. Just widowmine drop like 2 places at once and he wont react

I almost said "Dear isn't Creator" but then I realised Creator does react, he just makes it worse
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:19 GMT
#414
Also Rogue has the best ZvP in korea by far. Currently on a ZvP winstreak featuring Stats, herO, HerO, Classic, and Zest
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 16:19 GMT
#415
On August 14 2017 01:18 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
ZvZ best mirror


lets not get carried away here


not like the competition is strong
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 16:19 GMT
#416
On August 14 2017 01:19 Fango wrote:
Also Rogue has the best ZvP in korea by far. Currently on a ZvP winstreak featuring Stats, herO, HerO, Classic, and Zest

HerO still playing?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 16:19 GMT
#417
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:20 GMT
#418
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0

Then that's a storyline right there
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 16:20 GMT
#419
On August 14 2017 01:18 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
ZvZ best mirror


lets not get carried away here


Lets get carried away with PvP.
why even
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:20 GMT
#420
Dear gonna go mass oracles
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:21 GMT
#421
On August 14 2017 01:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:19 Fango wrote:
Also Rogue has the best ZvP in korea by far. Currently on a ZvP winstreak featuring Stats, herO, HerO, Classic, and Zest

HerO still playing?


According to aligulac yes. Although I do think he's semi retired
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 16:21 GMT
#422
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0

what if cows start flying?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2017 16:21 GMT
#423
On August 14 2017 01:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0

what if cows start flying?

Pretty sure one is way more likely than the other
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:22 GMT
#424
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0

Then we'll note Rogue has been playing for hours straight at a late time in Korea.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
August 13 2017 16:22 GMT
#425
On August 14 2017 01:21 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:19 Fango wrote:
Also Rogue has the best ZvP in korea by far. Currently on a ZvP winstreak featuring Stats, herO, HerO, Classic, and Zest

HerO still playing?


According to aligulac yes. Although I do think he's semi retired


He isn't retired he just isn't what he used to be can't qualify for anything sadly.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:22 GMT
#426
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0


Serral already gone, who else could? Major?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:23 GMT
#427
On August 14 2017 01:20 Durnuu wrote:
Dear gonna go mass oracles

mah boy
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:23 GMT
#428
Come on TB. This IS usual. Watch a little SSL and you'd have seen this multiple times. This is mass oracle.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:23 GMT
#429
Oh no if it's mass oracles vs hydras Dear wins
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 16:24 GMT
#430
On August 14 2017 01:22 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0


Serral already gone, who else could? Major?

Neeb maybe? Showtime has looked decent recently?
why even
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:24 GMT
#431
On August 14 2017 01:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Oh no if it's mass oracles vs hydras Dear wins

Have you seen Rogue play against this and hit fungals?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:25 GMT
#432
On August 14 2017 01:24 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:22 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0


Serral already gone, who else could? Major?

Neeb maybe? Showtime has looked decent recently?


Rogue can beat every korean protoss, but Neeb>korean protoss
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:25 GMT
#433
Oracles beat Hydras, but one fungal = GG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 16:25 GMT
#434
On August 14 2017 01:22 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:19 Parrek wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:15 Fango wrote:
I kinda want TB to just throw some foreigners at him and get Rogue to number one hehe

But what if a foreigner dethrones him? :0

Then we'll note Rogue has been playing for hours straight at a late time in Korea.

Already with the pre-johns, well played.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:27 GMT
#435
Storm is a good move from Dear since he knows he'll be playing against Hydra/Infestor/Queen
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:27 GMT
#436
Dear saw the infestors so he shouldn't be caught by a surprise fungal at least.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:28 GMT
#437
Why were the infestors so far behind?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 16:28 GMT
#438
omg idd
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:28 GMT
#439
On August 14 2017 01:28 Boggyb wrote:
Why were the infestors so far behind?

cuz they slow as shit
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 16:28 GMT
#440
Disco time
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:28 GMT
#441
Rogue engaged without infestors for no reason
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 16:28 GMT
#442
oh Dear
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 16:29 GMT
#443
WOW all oracles fungaled!!!!!!

oh wait infestors suck
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:29 GMT
#444
Dear <3
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:29 GMT
#445
And ya, Rogue is dead. That was super super sloppy by Rogue though
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:29 GMT
#446
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:29 GMT
#447
That was so bad by Rogue, that same fight with the infestors there would easily win
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:29 GMT
#448
On August 14 2017 01:28 Fango wrote:
Rogue engaged without infestors for no reason

Because he got jumped on and the infestors weren't there yet.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:30 GMT
#449
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 13 2017 16:31 GMT
#450
all of people to end Rogue lol
Liquipedia"Expert"
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:31 GMT
#451
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 16:31 GMT
#452
Storms everything including the oracles.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:32 GMT
#453
On August 14 2017 01:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:28 Fango wrote:
Rogue engaged without infestors for no reason

Because he got jumped on and the infestors weren't there yet.


Because he A clicked accross the map knowing full well infestors are slow moving
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:32 GMT
#454
Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Dear ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
20%

★★★ - Good game (7)
 
70%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
10%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Dear ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
August 13 2017 16:32 GMT
#455
InControl feeling lucky now
~~(,,ºº>
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 16:32 GMT
#456
i tell ya
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:33:38
August 13 2017 16:32 GMT
#457
On August 14 2017 01:31 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.

Uh, no, you really don't need god tier spread against 5 infestors. 19 oracles is a freaking lot, just split them in 4-5 groups and watch them wreck everything
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:33:03
August 13 2017 16:32 GMT
#458
I have seen that oracle strat way too many times in recent days.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 16:33 GMT
#459
Not the best game from Rogue, but a great showing overall.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:34 GMT
#460
On August 14 2017 01:32 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:31 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.

Uh, no, you really don't need god tier spread against 5 infestors. 19 oracles is a freaking lot, just split them in 4-5 groups and watch them wreck everything


Dear didn't though. If the infestors were there he'd have lost everything
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:34 GMT
#461
Disappointing engage by Rogue, but after such a hot showing I think we can forgive him.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:34 GMT
#462
On August 14 2017 01:34 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:32 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:31 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.

Uh, no, you really don't need god tier spread against 5 infestors. 19 oracles is a freaking lot, just split them in 4-5 groups and watch them wreck everything


Dear didn't though. If the infestors were there he'd have lost everything

If the infestors were there he would have spread (probably, Dear is never safe from his derps). He had the army revealed so he knew the infestors weren't there.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:34 GMT
#463
On August 14 2017 01:32 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:28 Fango wrote:
Rogue engaged without infestors for no reason

Because he got jumped on and the infestors weren't there yet.


Because he A clicked accross the map knowing full well infestors are slow moving

I give Dear the benefit of the doubt on that one, he saw the hydras were alone.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:35 GMT
#464
On August 14 2017 01:34 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:34 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:32 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:31 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.

Uh, no, you really don't need god tier spread against 5 infestors. 19 oracles is a freaking lot, just split them in 4-5 groups and watch them wreck everything


Dear didn't though. If the infestors were there he'd have lost everything

If the infestors were there he would have spread (probably, Dear is never safe from his derps). He had the army revealed so he knew the infestors weren't there.


When the infestors finally arrived they hit fungals on everything. Dear wouldn't have split
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:35 GMT
#465
Oh, interesting concept. I like it.
Could be named "barcode tournament"
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:36 GMT
#466
This luchador tournament is going to be a cheesefest
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 16:36 GMT
#467
TB is a literal God
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:36 GMT
#468
On August 14 2017 01:35 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:34 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:34 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:32 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:31 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.

Uh, no, you really don't need god tier spread against 5 infestors. 19 oracles is a freaking lot, just split them in 4-5 groups and watch them wreck everything


Dear didn't though. If the infestors were there he'd have lost everything

If the infestors were there he would have spread (probably, Dear is never safe from his derps). He had the army revealed so he knew the infestors weren't there.


When the infestors finally arrived they hit fungals on everything. Dear wouldn't have split

Yeah, but it doesn't matter because he killed most of the hydras at that point.
Had the infestors been there before the engage, Dear would have seen them and split.
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 13 2017 16:36 GMT
#469
On August 14 2017 01:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
This luchador tournament is going to be a cheesefest


cheesing off-race
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:37:11
August 13 2017 16:36 GMT
#470
On August 14 2017 01:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
This luchador tournament is going to be a cheesefest


Honestly I'm more worried that people would just play normally.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#471
amazing matchup
Liquipedia"Expert"
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
August 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#472
w00t, NoRegret????
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#473
RIP NoRegret
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#474
Dear vs a code S player, Dear has no chance
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#475
Hahaha NoRegret
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#476
If Dears walloff is as good as last game then maybe some dedicated pressure can do it :>
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#477
Can Jake and his one camera hotkey do it ?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:39 GMT
#478
On August 14 2017 01:36 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:35 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:34 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:34 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:32 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:31 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.

Uh, no, you really don't need god tier spread against 5 infestors. 19 oracles is a freaking lot, just split them in 4-5 groups and watch them wreck everything


Dear didn't though. If the infestors were there he'd have lost everything

If the infestors were there he would have spread (probably, Dear is never safe from his derps). He had the army revealed so he knew the infestors weren't there.


When the infestors finally arrived they hit fungals on everything. Dear wouldn't have split

Yeah, but it doesn't matter because he killed most of the hydras at that point.
Had the infestors been there before the engage, Dear would have seen them and split.


I don't trust Dear enough to do that

Also watch him lose to lingrush right now
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 16:39 GMT
#479
Go Jake!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 13 2017 16:39 GMT
#480
"disruptors are reliable" vs "I use 1 camera hotkey"
sounds like an LRSL matchup
Liquipedia"Expert"
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:39 GMT
#481
On August 14 2017 01:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:36 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:35 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:34 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:34 Fango wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:32 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:31 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:30 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 01:29 Boggyb wrote:
If the infestors were with that army, Dear couldn't engage.

He most definitely could, even with the infestors. He had 19 oracles against like 20 hydras and no queens. Just pre-spread, engage with your ground army at the same time and watch the zerg melt.

5 infestors means he'd have to have god tier spread.

Uh, no, you really don't need god tier spread against 5 infestors. 19 oracles is a freaking lot, just split them in 4-5 groups and watch them wreck everything


Dear didn't though. If the infestors were there he'd have lost everything

If the infestors were there he would have spread (probably, Dear is never safe from his derps). He had the army revealed so he knew the infestors weren't there.


When the infestors finally arrived they hit fungals on everything. Dear wouldn't have split

Yeah, but it doesn't matter because he killed most of the hydras at that point.
Had the infestors been there before the engage, Dear would have seen them and split.


I don't trust Dear enough to do that

Also watch him lose to lingrush right now

It is true Dear likes to derp, but still. I don't think he's the kind of guy to amove into scouted infestors and lurkers.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 16:40 GMT
#482
On August 14 2017 01:39 Inflicted wrote:
"disruptors are reliable" vs "I use 1 camera hotkey"
sounds like an LRSL matchup

1 camera hotkey? I don't use any camera hotkeys in SC2.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:40 GMT
#483
The cheesiest thing a cheeser can do is play greedy
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 16:40 GMT
#484
On August 14 2017 01:39 Inflicted wrote:
"disruptors are reliable" vs "I use 1 camera hotkey"
sounds like an LRSL matchup


Disruptors aren't reliable in LRSL though
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 16:40 GMT
#485
On August 14 2017 01:39 Inflicted wrote:
"disruptors are reliable" vs "I use 1 camera hotkey"
sounds like an LRSL matchup

"I use 1 camera hotkey, at its at the opponents natural"
why even
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 16:41 GMT
#486
InControl only had one camera hotkey in BW?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:41 GMT
#487
This adept is Dear's first scout, isn't it ? I don't know if he has balls or if he's a dumbass
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 16:43 GMT
#488
22 workers to 40, RIP
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:43 GMT
#489
This is like Squirtle vs Serral but the other way around
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 16:43 GMT
#490
22 drones on 3 hatches
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 16:43 GMT
#491
noregret needs the mother of all Derps
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 16:43 GMT
#492
Should've proxy hatched.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:44 GMT
#493
this is a straight humiliation
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:45 GMT
#494
ha ha those sentries
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:45:24
August 13 2017 16:45 GMT
#495
dear don't wants to be runbyed
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
August 13 2017 16:46 GMT
#496
code s level creep spread
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 16:46 GMT
#497
"No... because creep spread is not lings"
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 16:47 GMT
#498
hahaha the troll forcefields
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 16:47 GMT
#499
Manner force fields.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 16:47 GMT
#500
lol Dear trolling
why even
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:47 GMT
#501
Poll: Recommend Dear vs NoRegret ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (14)
 
78%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
11%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
11%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs NoRegret ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
August 13 2017 16:47 GMT
#502
neeb now
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:47 GMT
#503
some manner FFs at the end
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 16:48 GMT
#504
You can tell Korea has helped NoRegret. He wasn't floating 1500 in the early game
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 16:49:44
August 13 2017 16:49 GMT
#505
On August 14 2017 01:48 Parrek wrote:
You can tell Korea has helped NoRegret. He wasn't floating 1500 in the early game


Staying on 20 drones really helps with that too.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 16:55 GMT
#506
This was awful.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:55 GMT
#507
Cure is definitely an interesting choice
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
August 13 2017 16:56 GMT
#508
cure meme incoming
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:56 GMT
#509
Where is DieuCure when you need him
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 16:56 GMT
#510
...Wow. TB really is rewarding Dear for beating Rogue.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 16:56 GMT
#511
I wonder what hipster Geoff is talking about
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 16:56 GMT
#512
Where is DieuCure?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 16:57 GMT
#513
On August 14 2017 01:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
...Wow. TB really is rewarding Dear for beating Rogue.

Cure actually went 3-4 recently against Rogue, so he's not that bad these days.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:57 GMT
#514
On August 14 2017 01:57 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
...Wow. TB really is rewarding Dear for beating Rogue.

Cure actually went 3-4 recently against Rogue, so he's not that bad these days.

yeah Cure is inconsistent but his A level is good atm, this mu is not a 500$ gift for Dear (the previous one was)
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 16:58 GMT
#515
Haha, this discussion is fun
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 16:59 GMT
#516
Apparently Luolis inspired Cure's style
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
August 13 2017 17:00 GMT
#517
Daaaaaaamn, TB. Those shots. :D
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 17:00 GMT
#518
DieuCure? we need you
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:01 GMT
#519
yeah that was silly
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 17:01 GMT
#520
crazy prism micro
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 13 2017 17:02 GMT
#521
These last 2 games are basically LotV beta games
Liquipedia"Expert"
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 13 2017 17:02 GMT
#522
i am both amazed and disgusted
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 17:02 GMT
#523
WP's should be able to blink
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
August 13 2017 17:02 GMT
#524
this prism micro is a bit bm
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:03 GMT
#525
well I thought Cure would be clearly dead by now, and it's not the case, yay !
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 17:03 GMT
#526
I really can't recognize any of the units in the production tab. stupid skins.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:04 GMT
#527
ok sniping those medivacs is huge
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 17:04 GMT
#528
On August 14 2017 02:03 Charoisaur wrote:
I really can't recognize any of the units in the production tab. stupid skins.


If those marauders were warhounds Cure would have won that.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 17:05 GMT
#529
Ah those are marauders he's producing. thanks observer
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:06 GMT
#530
On August 14 2017 02:03 Charoisaur wrote:
I really can't recognize any of the units in the production tab. stupid skins.

I agree the skins aren't half as confusing in game as they are in production tabs
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:08 GMT
#531
please feed Dear a good player now
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:08 GMT
#532
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Cure ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
38%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
13%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Cure ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 17:09 GMT
#533
Dear taking down half of JAGW house
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:09 GMT
#534
On August 14 2017 02:09 Argonauta wrote:
Dear taking down half of JAGW house

send Maru. On Frost.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 17:10 GMT
#535
TB comparing Dear's WP micro to Liquid HerO. silly TB, the skill level now is 1000x higher than back then.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
August 13 2017 17:11 GMT
#536
brown maru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 17:12 GMT
#537
On August 14 2017 02:10 Charoisaur wrote:
TB comparing Dear's WP micro to Liquid HerO. silly TB, the skill level now is 1000x higher than back then.


A player getting beaten up with a Warp prism in 2017 looks very much like a player getting beaten up with a Warp prism in 2014.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 17:12 GMT
#538
Time for Godchio!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 17:14 GMT
#539
Scarlett?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 17:15:01
August 13 2017 17:14 GMT
#540
On August 14 2017 02:12 Musicus wrote:
Time for Godchio!

good call
I actually think he stands a chance, he beat Classic recently
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 17:14 GMT
#541
Just keeps feeding Dear.
why even
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 17:15 GMT
#542
Artur faced up nicely idd
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:20 GMT
#543
Early twilight + no fourth gas = all in from Dear most likely
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:21 GMT
#544
On August 14 2017 02:20 Durnuu wrote:
Early twilight + no fourth gas = all in from Dear most likely

Or just some #Zestmacro
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 17:21 GMT
#545
On August 14 2017 02:20 Durnuu wrote:
Early twilight + no fourth gas = all in from Dear most likely

and here he makes a robo and a 3rd base after 7 gladepts
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:21 GMT
#546
lair at the 3rd. Interesting.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:22 GMT
#547
On August 14 2017 02:21 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:20 Durnuu wrote:
Early twilight + no fourth gas = all in from Dear most likely

and here he makes a robo and a 3rd base after 7 gladepts

I'm literally Wolf
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:25 GMT
#548
too easy for Godchio
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 17:25 GMT
#549
Dear is bad.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:25 GMT
#550
lol no charge
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 17:26 GMT
#551
ZvP is really stale isn't it
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:26 GMT
#552
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Nerchio ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
20%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
10%

★★★ - Good game (6)
 
60%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
10%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Nerchio ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 17:26 GMT
#553
Artur is more than just a face
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:27 GMT
#554
so will TB keep feeding Protosses to Nerchio to make him regret his words ?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 17:27 GMT
#555
Shoutcrafts really is Nerchio's playground
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 17:30:19
August 13 2017 17:27 GMT
#556
On August 14 2017 02:26 Elentos wrote:
ZvP is really stale isn't it

I've been watching 3hatch spire into 5hatch hydra vs +1 sairs for 4 years, this is okay.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:27 GMT
#557
On August 14 2017 02:26 Elentos wrote:
ZvP is really stale isn't it

Same shit every game and still can't get charge in time, smh
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:28 GMT
#558
On August 14 2017 02:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so will TB keep feeding Protosses to Nerchio to make him regret his words ?

"you shouldn't have said that cause I'm gonna give you another Protoss you bastard"
Apparently yes
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 17:29 GMT
#559
HerO definitely has the best unit control out of all Protoss players.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 17:29 GMT
#560
On August 14 2017 02:27 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:26 Elentos wrote:
ZvP is really stale isn't it

Same shit every game and still can't get charge in time, smh


Charge wasn't the reason he lost (though it didn't help). It was more that Dear didn't do too much damage after slowing down his own eco for harassment.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:29 GMT
#561
herO has the best micro in SC2 ? But I thought ByuN did
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:29 GMT
#562
On August 14 2017 02:27 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:26 Elentos wrote:
ZvP is really stale isn't it

I've been watching 3hatch spire into 5hatch muta vs +1 sairs for 4 years, this is okay.

and we have the mass discoballs builds to break the monotony
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:30 GMT
#563
On August 14 2017 02:29 Ej_ wrote:
HerO definitely has the best unit control out of all Protoss players.

Stats' control of a lategame army is better I would say. But herO is better in early-midgame
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 17:34 GMT
#564
On August 14 2017 02:29 Ej_ wrote:
HerO definitely has the best unit control out of all Protoss players.


Stats and Zest have insane large army control though. herO seems to get all his praise for blink stalkers and controlling a small number of units in a prism
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:36 GMT
#565
typical obnoxious herO build
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 17:36 GMT
#566
HerO is doing exactyl what Nerchio's entire build is made to smash into the ground.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 17:36 GMT
#567
ok losing the main was awful LOL
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
August 13 2017 17:37 GMT
#568
On August 14 2017 02:36 Ej_ wrote:
ok losing the main was awful LOL

No you don't make spores vs this
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 17:38 GMT
#569
the hero we deserve
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 17:38 GMT
#570
wow, so rekt, herO with high level protoss bullshit, not bad
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:38 GMT
#571
On August 14 2017 02:37 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:36 Ej_ wrote:
ok losing the main was awful LOL

No you don't make spores vs this

Spoilers !
Poll: Recommend Nerchio vs herO ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
13%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
 
63%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
13%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs herO ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 17:38 GMT
#572
On August 14 2017 02:37 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:36 Ej_ wrote:
ok losing the main was awful LOL

No you don't make spores vs this

if you just see no 3rd, doesn't SRRRRRRR defend this with amove?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
August 13 2017 17:38 GMT
#573
Rekt
~~(,,ºº>
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:39 GMT
#574
On August 14 2017 02:37 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:36 Ej_ wrote:
ok losing the main was awful LOL

No you don't make spores vs this

you're supposed to get overseers ?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
August 13 2017 17:39 GMT
#575
"Brutal, Savage, REKT"
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 17:41:55
August 13 2017 17:39 GMT
#576
That in-base natural sux vs warp prism harass, it's why Zergs didn't take that base on Vaani.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:42 GMT
#577
You may not be able to make a pun with Neeb's nickname, but you can always mock him by using Neeblet
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
August 13 2017 17:42 GMT
#578
Called the Neeb vs KR toss matchup.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
Meeii
Profile Joined July 2015
155 Posts
August 13 2017 17:42 GMT
#579
And of course they send out Neeb for PvP
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:45 GMT
#580
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 17:45 GMT
#581
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


Olli's multiplying.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 17:48 GMT
#582
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.

ha ha yeah clearly
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 17:49 GMT
#583
"You didn't say neeb for speed, did you?"
"I absolutely fucking did"
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 17:52 GMT
#584
Poll: Recommend herO vs Neeb ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
17%

★★★ - Good game (5)
 
83%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend herO vs Neeb ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 17:52 GMT
#585
Neeb PvP back in full forced :O :O
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 13 2017 17:52 GMT
#586
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


OK COOL MAN. You think the matchup still sucks? Nah? prob not? Ok.. just wanted to find something I said and try and argue against it? Must be a LR -- oh. yes it is. Gotcha.

Nit picking commentators is fun!
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 17:52 GMT
#587
Neeb with the revenge! I hope he goes on a streak
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 17:53 GMT
#588
Good to see progamers dying the exact same way I always die on Odyssey.

Trying to defend one of natural or 3rd, and the opponent just attacks the other one.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 17:54 GMT
#589
Is it late enough for the rest of the tournament to be just foreigners?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 17:55 GMT
#590
On August 14 2017 02:52 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


OK COOL MAN. You think the matchup still sucks? Nah? prob not? Ok.. just wanted to find something I said and try and argue against it? Must be a LR -- oh. yes it is. Gotcha.

Nit picking commentators is fun!

More fun than talking about a PvP at least
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 13 2017 17:55 GMT
#591
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


I'm actually in the (very small) camp that thought HoTS PvP had depth to it and was a rather technical matchup
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 17:57 GMT
#592
On August 14 2017 02:55 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


I'm actually in the (very small) camp that thought HoTS PvP had depth to it and was a rather technical matchup


That camp has only been growing ever since people don't have to be subjected to HotS PvP anymore.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 17:58 GMT
#593
PvP > ZvZ > TvT
why even
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2017 17:58 GMT
#594
On August 14 2017 02:55 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


I'm actually in the (very small) camp that thought HoTS PvP had depth to it and was a rather technical matchup

You even had probe pulls.
why even
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 18:00 GMT
#595
lol, sending out TLO vs Neeb, TB is such a troll
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
MASTERCAKES
Profile Joined March 2012
United States127 Posts
August 13 2017 18:01 GMT
#596
Lol this is such an epic troll job.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 18:01 GMT
#597
On August 14 2017 03:00 Musicus wrote:
lol, sending out TLO vs Neeb, TB is such a troll


He's just giving us a taste of WCS Montreal.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:02 GMT
#598
Of course this would be Neeb's favorite map. I'm sure any map where carriers are decent in every match-up is just fine with him
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 18:05:23
August 13 2017 18:04 GMT
#599
On August 14 2017 02:52 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


OK COOL MAN. You think the matchup still sucks? Nah? prob not? Ok.. just wanted to find something I said and try and argue against it? Must be a LR -- oh. yes it is. Gotcha.

Nit picking commentators is fun!

Oh come on now, it's not like there is something else to do in the early game ; after all, PvP is all about the 2 gate openers now in LotV
Seriously though, I just disagreed with you, this is not a reason to get mad.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 18:05 GMT
#600
TLO trolling TB back, saying he never played Neeb lol.

But since TB actually did not know about their history, TB didn't even troll now that I think about it.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 18:05 GMT
#601
I love this map
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:06 GMT
#602
I wanna say this is my least favorite map in the pool but then I remember that I'm not particularly fond of any of the ones added this season.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 18:08 GMT
#603
On August 14 2017 03:06 Elentos wrote:
I wanna say this is my least favorite map in the pool but then I remember that I'm not particularly fond of any of the ones added this season.


It's pretty mediocre, but Catallena is by itself in a whole other category of awful.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 18:08 GMT
#604
On August 14 2017 03:06 Elentos wrote:
I wanna say this is my least favorite map in the pool but then I remember that I'm not particularly fond of any of the ones added this season.

It's pretty sucky, but you can 12pool so I kept it.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 18:08 GMT
#605
Moral of today, chain fungalling oracles is hard
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 18:08 GMT
#606
AAAHHH!! Fungal you suck so bad!! So close
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:09 GMT
#607
On August 14 2017 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:06 Elentos wrote:
I wanna say this is my least favorite map in the pool but then I remember that I'm not particularly fond of any of the ones added this season.


It's pretty mediocre, but Catallena is by itself in a whole other category of awful.

Acolyte isn't good enough for mediocrity
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 18:10 GMT
#608
On August 14 2017 03:09 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:06 Elentos wrote:
I wanna say this is my least favorite map in the pool but then I remember that I'm not particularly fond of any of the ones added this season.


It's pretty mediocre, but Catallena is by itself in a whole other category of awful.

Acolyte isn't good enough for mediocrity


But it's Carrier city!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:10 GMT
#609
On August 14 2017 03:10 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:09 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:06 Elentos wrote:
I wanna say this is my least favorite map in the pool but then I remember that I'm not particularly fond of any of the ones added this season.


It's pretty mediocre, but Catallena is by itself in a whole other category of awful.

Acolyte isn't good enough for mediocrity


But it's Carrier city!

That's what makes it awful.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 18:10 GMT
#610
TLO very well might be several thousand dollars richer if Neeb didn't exist. I feel a little bad for him
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:11 GMT
#611
Poll: Recommend Neeb vs TLO ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
75%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs TLO ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 18:12 GMT
#612
This is Neebs go to build. Oracles destroy hydras.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 13 2017 18:13 GMT
#613
Are oracles a thing vs zerg now?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 13 2017 18:13 GMT
#614
On August 14 2017 03:04 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 02:52 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


OK COOL MAN. You think the matchup still sucks? Nah? prob not? Ok.. just wanted to find something I said and try and argue against it? Must be a LR -- oh. yes it is. Gotcha.

Nit picking commentators is fun!

Oh come on now, it's not like there is something else to do in the early game ; after all, PvP is all about the 2 gate openers now in LotV
Seriously though, I just disagreed with you, this is not a reason to get mad.


I'm not mad you're just annoying lol
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:14 GMT
#615
ELAZERJWA
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 18:14 GMT
#616
On August 14 2017 03:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
TLO very well might be several thousand dollars richer if Neeb didn't exist. I feel a little bad for him

It's truly hurting him by now.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 13 2017 18:15 GMT
#617
On August 14 2017 03:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:10 Heartland wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:09 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:06 Elentos wrote:
I wanna say this is my least favorite map in the pool but then I remember that I'm not particularly fond of any of the ones added this season.


It's pretty mediocre, but Catallena is by itself in a whole other category of awful.

Acolyte isn't good enough for mediocrity


But it's Carrier city!

That's what makes it awful.


Why do you hate the noble capital ship of the Protoss race?
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 18:16 GMT
#618
Hahahahaha Haven't seen a cannon rush in a long time. It'll probably fail entirely, but we'll see
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 18:18:54
August 13 2017 18:16 GMT
#619
On August 14 2017 03:13 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:04 Durnuu wrote:
On August 14 2017 02:52 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 14 2017 02:45 Durnuu wrote:
"PvP in HotS was very linear"
"In LotV there is a lot of diversity"
We ain't watching the same game Incontrol.


OK COOL MAN. You think the matchup still sucks? Nah? prob not? Ok.. just wanted to find something I said and try and argue against it? Must be a LR -- oh. yes it is. Gotcha.

Nit picking commentators is fun!

Oh come on now, it's not like there is something else to do in the early game ; after all, PvP is all about the 2 gate openers now in LotV
Seriously though, I just disagreed with you, this is not a reason to get mad.


I'm not mad you're just annoying lol

Well, like I said, at that stage of the game I had nothing else to do but listen to your casting (and TB's), so yeah you could say I nitpicked a comment and it's annoying. But this is a discussion thread, so I discussed (though I'll admit my post could have used a bit more substance). I could have nitpicked TB's terrible/amazing Neeb pun and you would not have cared one bit.
Anyway, let's move on, cannon rushes are rare and fun
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
MASTERCAKES
Profile Joined March 2012
United States127 Posts
August 13 2017 18:17 GMT
#620
That TLO tweet makes me extremely sad.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 18:17 GMT
#621
Serral vs Squirtle was the easiest half a grand I saw this week.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:18 GMT
#622
ooh, I like the overlord drop to take the hatch
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 18:19 GMT
#623
How much did Life ear against Lilbow?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:19 GMT
#624
On August 14 2017 03:18 Durnuu wrote:
ooh, I like the overlord drop to take the hatch

smart reaction
still very far behind I guess
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:20 GMT
#625
I didn't expect a lot of damage but 0 probe is rough
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 18:22 GMT
#626
Oracles are really strong. Had to go air as everything will be hard countered really fast.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
August 13 2017 18:22 GMT
#627
On August 14 2017 03:17 MASTERCAKES wrote:
That TLO tweet makes me extremely sad.


Yeah, damn, that really bothers me. =/
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:23 GMT
#628
oracles again, ha ha
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:24 GMT
#629
4th stargate, wow
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 18:25:54
August 13 2017 18:25 GMT
#630
Is this better than carriers??? For a viewer.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 18:27 GMT
#631
On August 14 2017 03:25 RaFox17 wrote:
Is this better than carriers??? For a viewer.


I think so. You can /dance oracles.

Though really this game has just been Neeb styling over Elazer for a while now.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 18:27 GMT
#632
There is always a deeper pit for the PvZ matchup to reach....
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 18:27 GMT
#633
Mass oracles has been out for weeks. It is basically ancient history.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:27 GMT
#634
Poll: Recommend Neeb vs Elazer ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
17%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
67%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs Elazer ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:28 GMT
#635
it'll be interesting to see how Zerg players craft an answer vs those mass oracles builds
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 18:28 GMT
#636
On August 14 2017 03:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:25 RaFox17 wrote:
Is this better than carriers??? For a viewer.


I think so. You can /dance oracles.

Though really this game has just been Neeb styling over Elazer for a while now.

Yeah, but this style is used by many protoss players. It actually seems to be legit really strong.
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 18:28 GMT
#637
On August 14 2017 03:25 RaFox17 wrote:
Is this better than carriers??? For a viewer.


For a viewer I'd say so because they are much more aggressive of a unit. However, I want to see the response zergs really come up with. It's only recently it's gotten much more popular and Zergs are still flailing around
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 13 2017 18:29 GMT
#638
Serral did a drop against Showtime and then hit with a hidden spire and then Showtime screwed up. Serral did win :D
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 18:30 GMT
#639
ByuN hype!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:30 GMT
#640
ByuN, I like that choice
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#641
Terran is disgusting.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#642
THAT FACTORY FINISHED
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#643
That was really clever from Byun
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#644
That SCV micro lol, that's impressive ByuN micro for once
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#645
That finishing is super broken.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#646
wtf i did not know this was even possible :D
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
August 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#647
ByuNbelievable scv micro
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 18:37:01
August 13 2017 18:36 GMT
#648
Only die-hard Neeb fans enjoy Neeb vs TLO I'm pretty sure. Everyone else is just sad now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 18:38:28
August 13 2017 18:37 GMT
#649
Was it Neeb vs. Special that had the basically never killed proxy factory?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 18:38 GMT
#650
On August 14 2017 03:37 Boggyb wrote:
Was it Neeb vs. Special that had the never killed proxy factory?


Yup. And it produced something like 30 widow mines.
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 18:39 GMT
#651
That recall was really smart. Never really seen that before this early on
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:39 GMT
#652
On August 14 2017 03:39 Parrek wrote:
That recall was really smart. Never really seen that before this early on

Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:40 GMT
#653
On August 14 2017 03:39 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:39 Parrek wrote:
That recall was really smart. Never really seen that before this early on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8q6QtHgx3s

RIP Afrotoss, I miss you
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 18:41:12
August 13 2017 18:40 GMT
#654
No transition to Colossus or Storm? Phoenix Adept is good, but you can't stay on it forever. I get the mass mauraders are a problem.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:40 GMT
#655
On August 14 2017 03:39 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:39 Parrek wrote:
That recall was really smart. Never really seen that before this early on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8q6QtHgx3s

ah, the memories
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:41 GMT
#656
Neeb is giving ByuN far too many opportunities to come back in that
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:43 GMT
#657
Reliable disruptors on the way, ByuN won't be able to deal with that!
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:43 GMT
#658
that move command from hell
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
August 13 2017 18:44 GMT
#659
I hope they fix this oracle stuff really soon :D
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:45 GMT
#660
On August 14 2017 03:44 Nerchio wrote:
I hope they fix this oracle stuff really soon :D

They're gonna buff its movement speed for no reason like back in 2013
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 18:45 GMT
#661
On August 14 2017 03:43 Durnuu wrote:
Reliable disruptors on the way, ByuN won't be able to deal with that!

He wasn't. Those hits were insane.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:46 GMT
#662
On August 14 2017 03:43 Durnuu wrote:
Reliable disruptors on the way, ByuN won't be able to deal with that!

Well I'll be damned
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:46 GMT
#663
Best micro
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:46 GMT
#664
Poll: Recommend Neeb vs ByuN ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
29%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
43%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
14%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs ByuN ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 18:46 GMT
#665
I own the Neeb and Rogue fan clubs. If any pros want me to take over theirs for the good luck, I'm taking offers.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 18:47 GMT
#666
On August 14 2017 03:46 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:43 Durnuu wrote:
Reliable disruptors on the way, ByuN won't be able to deal with that!

Well I'll be damned


To be fair he could have won without firing them, and not firing them is pretty reliable.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:47 GMT
#667
we got some sick games at the beginning of the day but the last games were pretty meh
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
August 13 2017 18:47 GMT
#668
Neeb is king
~~(,,ºº>
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
August 13 2017 18:47 GMT
#669
On August 14 2017 03:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:44 Nerchio wrote:
I hope they fix this oracle stuff really soon :D

They're gonna buff its movement speed for no reason like back in 2013

they will make revelation permanent
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 18:47 GMT
#670
Isn't Neeb in Korea at the moment?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 13 2017 18:48 GMT
#671
Maybe Neeb does better late into Kings because by then it's running out of Koreans
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 18:48 GMT
#672
Those disruptor shots were disgusting. I almost feel sorry for Byun. Heck, I feel sorry for most of Neeb's opponents. He's made Protoss look disgusting today
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 18:48 GMT
#673
On August 14 2017 03:46 Elentos wrote:
Best micro

reliability balls too stronk
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 18:48 GMT
#674
On August 14 2017 03:48 Elentos wrote:
Maybe Neeb does better late into Kings because by then it's running out of Koreans

No way.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 18:48 GMT
#675
On August 14 2017 03:47 Boggyb wrote:
Isn't Neeb in Korea at the moment?


Yup
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 18:49 GMT
#676
On August 14 2017 03:48 Elentos wrote:
Maybe Neeb does better late into Kings because by then it's running out of Koreans

His run isn't as impressive as Rogue's, but I guess he's dominated his circuit while Rogue dominated his, so it isn't completely meaningless.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:49 GMT
#677
On August 14 2017 03:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:45 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:44 Nerchio wrote:
I hope they fix this oracle stuff really soon :D

They're gonna buff its movement speed for no reason like back in 2013

they will make revelation permanent

more seriously increasing the energy spent with each shot (and even the cost of the attack spell if needed) could help making oracles less good en masse ; they're too good vs hydras when they have a lot of energy pooled
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 18:50 GMT
#678
I was only half paying attention but did TB spoil that it was Bly before the intro?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:50 GMT
#679
Bly used to be some kind of Neeb's Nemesis, this is going to be interesting for sure
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 13 2017 18:50 GMT
#680
On August 14 2017 03:49 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:48 Elentos wrote:
Maybe Neeb does better late into Kings because by then it's running out of Koreans

His run isn't as impressive as Rogue's, but I guess he's dominated his circuit while Rogue dominated his, so it isn't completely meaningless.

Rogue dominated what now?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:50 GMT
#681
On August 14 2017 03:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I was only half paying attention but did TB spoil that it was Bly before the intro?

Yeah. He said "waiting for Bly to join"
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 18:51 GMT
#682
Neeb hasn't lost to a zerg yet in Shoutcraft.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:53 GMT
#683
interesting building positioning
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:56 GMT
#684
that ling run by is very good and well timed
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 18:56:44
August 13 2017 18:56 GMT
#685
Super bad from Neeb there.

edit: But Bly decided to do the same for Neeb.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 18:56 GMT
#686
Neeb is msot likely dead.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:57 GMT
#687
Typical Bly - Neeb game
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 13 2017 18:57 GMT
#688
Bly on fire
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Bayaz90
Profile Joined July 2017
54 Posts
August 13 2017 18:57 GMT
#689
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:57 GMT
#690
Bly'd
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 13 2017 18:57 GMT
#691
Poll: Recommend Neeb vs Bly ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
40%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
20%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
20%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
 
20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Neeb vs Bly ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
August 13 2017 18:57 GMT
#692
fire on bly
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 13 2017 18:57 GMT
#693
long live bly
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 13 2017 18:58 GMT
#694
Fuckin Bly lol
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 13 2017 18:58 GMT
#695
the sort of game that makes me love bo1, everything settled in a single game
Year of MaxPax
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2017 18:59 GMT
#696
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.


Chinese SC2 is doing fine. They have their own circuit and teams that are plenty popular.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 18:59 GMT
#697
well from Dear vs NoRegreT on we got games that oscillated from awful to mediocre. Entertaining day anyway !
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 13 2017 18:59 GMT
#698
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.

As cool as that sounds, it wouldn't be watched as much. I for one don't know or care who those player are
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2017 19:00 GMT
#699
The best game today was a ZvZ.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 13 2017 19:00 GMT
#700
On August 14 2017 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
The best game today was a ZvZ.

indeed
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
August 13 2017 19:01 GMT
#701
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.



lol. if you wanna be a progamer, maybe win some games
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 13 2017 19:03 GMT
#702
On August 14 2017 03:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Neeb hasn't lost to a zerg yet in Shoutcraft.

not anymore
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 19:03 GMT
#703
On August 14 2017 04:01 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.



lol. if you wanna be a progamer, maybe win some games

If you want any quality in large tournaments before the round of 16, this probably isn't the right response.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
August 13 2017 19:04 GMT
#704
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.


obvious troll is obvious

and in case you're for some reason being serious I suggest watching previous iterations of this tournament - all the players you mentioned already played and will probably be invited in the future again.
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
August 13 2017 19:06 GMT
#705
On August 14 2017 04:03 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 04:01 ClanWars wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.



lol. if you wanna be a progamer, maybe win some games

If you want any quality in large tournaments before the round of 16, this probably isn't the right response.


actually it is pretty correct response - if you want to get to Ro16 you have to win something.
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
August 13 2017 19:07 GMT
#706
Today was a good SC2 day
nick00bot
Profile Joined November 2010
326 Posts
August 13 2017 19:07 GMT
#707
Is it just me or is it kind of bullshit that this primarily crowdfunded (warchest) event requires a suscription to TB's channel to watch the Vods?

Yes I know the videos will eventually be on youtube, but they take a long time to upload and contain spoilers due to the video length and thumbnails. I love the Cast and everything TB does for Starcraft, but the standard for every other blizzard sponsored SC2 event is instant complete twitch VODs after completion, and I don't see why this even should be any different, especially considering that TB is not primarily a Starcraft streamer.
SoO~Speed~Serral~$o$~Dark~Myungsik~TY~Byun~Classic
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2017 19:09 GMT
#708
On August 14 2017 04:07 nick00bot wrote:
Is it just me or is it kind of bullshit that this primarily crowdfunded (warchest) event requires a suscription to TB's channel to watch the Vods?

Yes I know the videos will eventually be on youtube, but they take a long time to upload and contain spoilers due to the video length and thumbnails. I love the Cast and everything TB does for Starcraft, but the standard for every other blizzard sponsored SC2 event is instant complete twitch VODs after completion, and I don't see why this even should be any different, especially considering that TB is not primarily a Starcraft streamer.


Ehh... it's mostly you. It's not like we don't get the VODs.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 19:11:40
August 13 2017 19:10 GMT
#709
On August 14 2017 04:07 nick00bot wrote:
Is it just me or is it kind of bullshit that this primarily crowdfunded (warchest) event requires a suscription to TB's channel to watch the Vods?

Yes I know the videos will eventually be on youtube, but they take a long time to upload and contain spoilers due to the video length and thumbnails. I love the Cast and everything TB does for Starcraft, but the standard for every other blizzard sponsored SC2 event is instant complete twitch VODs after completion, and I don't see why this even should be any different, especially considering that TB is not primarily a Starcraft streamer.


WTF

it's tournament ran by TB, on his personal channel - his rules.
Blizzard just sponsors it - it's not run by them.
And warchest is not crowdfunding.
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 19:16:30
August 13 2017 19:11 GMT
#710
On August 14 2017 04:07 nick00bot wrote:
Is it just me or is it kind of bullshit that this primarily crowdfunded (warchest) event requires a suscription to TB's channel to watch the Vods?

Yes I know the videos will eventually be on youtube, but they take a long time to upload and contain spoilers due to the video length and thumbnails. I love the Cast and everything TB does for Starcraft, but the standard for every other blizzard sponsored SC2 event is instant complete twitch VODs after completion, and I don't see why this even should be any different, especially considering that TB is not primarily a Starcraft streamer.


This event is not primarily crowdfunded at all. It was $5000 before warchest funding. 25% of warchest funding goes to tournament funding, so at best you can argue, half of the prizemoney is crowdfunded (and none of the other costs like paying admins, co-casters, artists and prize payment processing fees) and at the least, crowdfunding makes up about $1250 of the $5000 extra given on top of the $5000 that was already being paid for by Blizzard.

Any way you slice it the event is not primarily crowd-funded.

I'd make ya a deal though. If it were possible (which its not, but if it were). If you could prove you'd bought the warchest, I'd give you a free sub.

For the people that haven't bought it, well, what do you think you're entitled to?


I've seen the cancer that is tournament chat. I won't let it take over my Twitch chat. If you have a problem with that, you are free to petition Blizzard to make an event, fund it, produce it, promote it, and stream it on your channel where you can do whatever you want with the chat.

SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 19:20:53
August 13 2017 19:20 GMT
#711
On August 14 2017 04:01 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.



lol. if you wanna be a progamer, maybe win some games

difficult to just "win some games" when all the current progamers have had years of full-time practice and up-and-coming players have difficulties to get any money and thus have a hard time justifying investing to much time into this game.
It's of course cool that Shoutcrafts and Blizzcon get extra money but I think the question if the money would be better spend on challenger or some other tournament where lower-level players have a chance is legitimate.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 13 2017 19:30 GMT
#712
Great event as always, but maybe even better than usual today, thanks TB and Blizz!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
August 13 2017 19:31 GMT
#713
On August 14 2017 04:20 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 04:01 ClanWars wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.



lol. if you wanna be a progamer, maybe win some games

difficult to just "win some games" when all the current progamers have had years of full-time practice and up-and-coming players have difficulties to get any money and thus have a hard time justifying investing to much time into this game.
It's of course cool that Shoutcrafts and Blizzcon get extra money but I think the question if the money would be better spend on challenger or some other tournament where lower-level players have a chance is legitimate.


Why do people deserve money if they can't win games?

Its not communism, its competitive.
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 19:54 GMT
#714
On August 14 2017 04:31 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 04:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 14 2017 04:01 ClanWars wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.



lol. if you wanna be a progamer, maybe win some games

difficult to just "win some games" when all the current progamers have had years of full-time practice and up-and-coming players have difficulties to get any money and thus have a hard time justifying investing to much time into this game.
It's of course cool that Shoutcrafts and Blizzcon get extra money but I think the question if the money would be better spend on challenger or some other tournament where lower-level players have a chance is legitimate.


Why do people deserve money if they can't win games?

Its not communism, its competitive.

Do you want the SC2 professional scene to be just the same 20 or so pros who can win consistently enough to make a living?

Hell, if it weren't for Blizzard stifling competition with region locking Koreans, 16 of them would probably be Korean.
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 20:01:44
August 13 2017 20:00 GMT
#715
On August 14 2017 04:54 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 04:31 ClanWars wrote:
On August 14 2017 04:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 14 2017 04:01 ClanWars wrote:
On August 14 2017 03:57 Bayaz90 wrote:
While this was a fun event to watch, it did nothing but make the rich richer and proves that Blizzard really isn't interested in SC2 faring any better as an esport. How cool would it have been to give some Chinese players the opportunity to win $500, or some NA aspiring players like Semper or EU like Optimus or Soul. Instead it was just people who have won $100,000+ already or who are on big teams fighting for 500 bucks. Making the prize pool of Blizzcon bigger accomplishes very little for the scene besides those few top players so I wish they would have let the rest of the warchest money trickle down.



lol. if you wanna be a progamer, maybe win some games

difficult to just "win some games" when all the current progamers have had years of full-time practice and up-and-coming players have difficulties to get any money and thus have a hard time justifying investing to much time into this game.
It's of course cool that Shoutcrafts and Blizzcon get extra money but I think the question if the money would be better spend on challenger or some other tournament where lower-level players have a chance is legitimate.


Why do people deserve money if they can't win games?

Its not communism, its competitive.

Do you want the SC2 professional scene to be just the same 20 or so pros who can win consistently enough to make a living?

Hell, if it weren't for Blizzard stifling competition with region locking Koreans, 16 of them would probably be Korean.


This discussion so uninteresting and lacking in any real insight.

It's grandstanding and nothing more. You wanna fix the flaws you see in SC2 right now? Go do that. Go make something. Anything. Do anything other than whine on forums because that's absolutely useless.

There's little more bothersome in this scene than people "trying to help" by posting on forums. It's been annoying since the very start of it and its still annoying today. Make a thing. Put up, or shut up. Don't try to manipulate other peoples work. Do your own. I can tell you for a fact that we are not listening to feedback on the invites, or who gets paid what. We're pros at this by now, we've been doing it since SC2 beta. There's no useful feedback you are capable of giving on those matters.

Why a bunch of people suddenly decided to get a giant hardon for the belief that Kings now represents everything wrong with the equality of this scene while GSL and WCS continue to give hugely top-heavy prize distributions out every year is anyones guess. If I were to hazard it though, it'd be that one persons event is an easier bitching target than WCS or GSL.

I'll tell ya what doesnt get pros paid, crying on forums.
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
nick00bot
Profile Joined November 2010
326 Posts
August 13 2017 20:05 GMT
#716
On August 14 2017 04:11 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 04:07 nick00bot wrote:
Is it just me or is it kind of bullshit that this primarily crowdfunded (warchest) event requires a suscription to TB's channel to watch the Vods?

Yes I know the videos will eventually be on youtube, but they take a long time to upload and contain spoilers due to the video length and thumbnails. I love the Cast and everything TB does for Starcraft, but the standard for every other blizzard sponsored SC2 event is instant complete twitch VODs after completion, and I don't see why this even should be any different, especially considering that TB is not primarily a Starcraft streamer.


This event is not primarily crowdfunded at all. It was $5000 before warchest funding. 25% of warchest funding goes to tournament funding, so at best you can argue, half of the prizemoney is crowdfunded (and none of the other costs like paying admins, co-casters, artists and prize payment processing fees) and at the least, crowdfunding makes up about $1250 of the $5000 extra given on top of the $5000 that was already being paid for by Blizzard.

Any way you slice it the event is not primarily crowd-funded.

I'd make ya a deal though. If it were possible (which its not, but if it were). If you could prove you'd bought the warchest, I'd give you a free sub.

For the people that haven't bought it, well, what do you think you're entitled to?


I've seen the cancer that is tournament chat. I won't let it take over my Twitch chat. If you have a problem with that, you are free to petition Blizzard to make an event, fund it, produce it, promote it, and stream it on your channel where you can do whatever you want with the chat.





Fair enough, and my bad, I was under the impression that the warchest funding was an even larger part of the prize pool. If there's any method that would satisfy you to prove the warchest tho, I'd gladly take you up on that offer haha
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 13 2017 20:06 GMT
#717
People really will complain about anything.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
August 13 2017 20:08 GMT
#718
Yet another great installment of ShoutCraft Kings, kudos to TB for all his work. I was glad to have been able to commentate the event in Polish alongside Emil. Cheers!
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 20:12 GMT
#719
On August 14 2017 05:00 ClanWars wrote:
Why a bunch of people suddenly decided to get a giant hardon for the belief that Kings now represents everything wrong with the equality of this scene while GSL and WCS continue to give hugely top-heavy prize distributions out every year is anyones guess. If I were to hazard it though, it'd be that one persons event is an easier bitching target than WCS or GSL.

1) As far as I know, this is the first event that has received additional funding outside of the WCS finals.
2) You criticized the Warchest then went ahead and accepted the money.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
August 13 2017 20:17 GMT
#720
On August 14 2017 05:06 Phredxor wrote:
People really will complain about anything.

You should meet such people in real life. I already have aborted 5 contacts.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
August 13 2017 20:20 GMT
#721
On August 14 2017 05:12 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 05:00 ClanWars wrote:
Why a bunch of people suddenly decided to get a giant hardon for the belief that Kings now represents everything wrong with the equality of this scene while GSL and WCS continue to give hugely top-heavy prize distributions out every year is anyones guess. If I were to hazard it though, it'd be that one persons event is an easier bitching target than WCS or GSL.

1) As far as I know, this is the first event that has received additional funding outside of the WCS finals.
2) You criticized the Warchest then went ahead and accepted the money.


Yeah I did, because those arent contradictory positions.

Let's say you believe in privatized healthcare. Do you suddenly refuse to use the public healthcare system of your country? No of course not. You a libertarian? Cool, better never use a publicly funded thing ever then, hope you don't like driving on roads.

It is possible to not like a thing and still benefit from it and in fact it's incredibly stupid not to. Do you honestly want me to not accept additional prizemoney for my players, bearing in mind I take ZERO salary from Kings and still take ZERO salary from Kings after the warchest boost, because I personally don't like the warchest? How astonishingly unprofessional would that be?

You know I hated G2A and still cast Dreamhack right? That's called doing your job.

If people want to cry and scream hypocrite as if 1) its even correct, which its not and 2) it actually matters at all, which it doesnt, its the refuge of people with no proper argument, they can go right ahead.

Me, I prefer doing things to make this scene better and I dont have much patience for people who just whine and think thats a contribution to anything.

I mean you'd have to be pretty much insane to think that turning down sponsorship money from our primary sponsor is ever going to happen. Blizzard sponsors the event and always has. Where the money comes from doesn't matter in the slightest and as far as you know, every cent of it could have been warchest funded even if there hadnt been a prizepool increase and we would not have known or been able to do a damn thing about it.

I'm glad we've now gone to blaming SHOUTcraft Kings for all the scenes ills to actually complaining that we take money from our primary sponsor. That is by far the most delusional, out of touch thing I've read all day and what's sad is you're not the first jackass to say it and probably wont be the last either.

Now be careful, you wouldnt want to be a hypocrite. Make sure you never benefit, come in contact with or use anything you disagree with ever again in your life, otherwise you've committed a mortal sin and arent allowed to do anything anymore! Cos hypocrisy is a magic word that wins all arguments! If you're 5 years old....
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2017 20:35 GMT
#722
Gap confirmed not closed. Koreans lagging behind foreigners
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 13 2017 21:04 GMT
#723
On August 14 2017 05:20 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 05:12 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 05:00 ClanWars wrote:
Why a bunch of people suddenly decided to get a giant hardon for the belief that Kings now represents everything wrong with the equality of this scene while GSL and WCS continue to give hugely top-heavy prize distributions out every year is anyones guess. If I were to hazard it though, it'd be that one persons event is an easier bitching target than WCS or GSL.

1) As far as I know, this is the first event that has received additional funding outside of the WCS finals.
2) You criticized the Warchest then went ahead and accepted the money.


Yeah I did, because those arent contradictory positions.

Let's say you believe in privatized healthcare. Do you suddenly refuse to use the public healthcare system of your country? No of course not. You a libertarian? Cool, better never use a publicly funded thing ever then, hope you don't like driving on roads.

It is possible to not like a thing and still benefit from it and in fact it's incredibly stupid not to. Do you honestly want me to not accept additional prizemoney for my players, bearing in mind I take ZERO salary from Kings and still take ZERO salary from Kings after the warchest boost, because I personally don't like the warchest? How astonishingly unprofessional would that be?

You know I hated G2A and still cast Dreamhack right? That's called doing your job.

If people want to cry and scream hypocrite as if 1) its even correct, which its not and 2) it actually matters at all, which it doesnt, its the refuge of people with no proper argument, they can go right ahead.

Me, I prefer doing things to make this scene better and I dont have much patience for people who just whine and think thats a contribution to anything.

I mean you'd have to be pretty much insane to think that turning down sponsorship money from our primary sponsor is ever going to happen. Blizzard sponsors the event and always has. Where the money comes from doesn't matter in the slightest and as far as you know, every cent of it could have been warchest funded even if there hadnt been a prizepool increase and we would not have known or been able to do a damn thing about it.

I'm glad we've now gone to blaming SHOUTcraft Kings for all the scenes ills to actually complaining that we take money from our primary sponsor. That is by far the most delusional, out of touch thing I've read all day and what's sad is you're not the first jackass to say it and probably wont be the last either.

Now be careful, you wouldnt want to be a hypocrite. Make sure you never benefit, come in contact with or use anything you disagree with ever again in your life, otherwise you've committed a mortal sin and arent allowed to do anything anymore! Cos hypocrisy is a magic word that wins all arguments! If you're 5 years old....

Your government services analogy is bullshit. We all pay taxes and are functionally responsible for the debt governments accumulate. You can use a service you don't like when you don't have a reasonable alternative and are forced into paying for it and not be a hypocrite.

I can't speak to the finances of your twitch channel, but are you saying that sub money that the channel earns doesn't go to you? Do you think nobody subscribes just because of the one event?

You're smart enough to know that the average person is extremely limited in their ability to support the scene. Suppose I had a million great ideas on tournaments and how prize pools should be distributed, do you think Blizzard would cut me a check for $5,000 a month to do that regardless of how thorough or professional my proposal is? Hell no because I'd have zero reputation nor do I represent a known company or brand. How long do you think it would take to establish that reputation? 6 months? A year? 2? How much time and money would I have to spend to build that and what guarantee is there that Blizzard wouldn't just decide to cut their support for the scene by then? Even if there were a guarantee, that's a lot to ask of someone when there is no payoff outside of personal sanctification.

Nobody is blaming SHOUTcraft Kings for all the scene's ills. Don't set up straw men.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 13 2017 21:50 GMT
#724
On August 14 2017 06:04 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 05:20 ClanWars wrote:
On August 14 2017 05:12 Boggyb wrote:
On August 14 2017 05:00 ClanWars wrote:
Why a bunch of people suddenly decided to get a giant hardon for the belief that Kings now represents everything wrong with the equality of this scene while GSL and WCS continue to give hugely top-heavy prize distributions out every year is anyones guess. If I were to hazard it though, it'd be that one persons event is an easier bitching target than WCS or GSL.

1) As far as I know, this is the first event that has received additional funding outside of the WCS finals.
2) You criticized the Warchest then went ahead and accepted the money.


Yeah I did, because those arent contradictory positions.

Let's say you believe in privatized healthcare. Do you suddenly refuse to use the public healthcare system of your country? No of course not. You a libertarian? Cool, better never use a publicly funded thing ever then, hope you don't like driving on roads.

It is possible to not like a thing and still benefit from it and in fact it's incredibly stupid not to. Do you honestly want me to not accept additional prizemoney for my players, bearing in mind I take ZERO salary from Kings and still take ZERO salary from Kings after the warchest boost, because I personally don't like the warchest? How astonishingly unprofessional would that be?

You know I hated G2A and still cast Dreamhack right? That's called doing your job.

If people want to cry and scream hypocrite as if 1) its even correct, which its not and 2) it actually matters at all, which it doesnt, its the refuge of people with no proper argument, they can go right ahead.

Me, I prefer doing things to make this scene better and I dont have much patience for people who just whine and think thats a contribution to anything.

I mean you'd have to be pretty much insane to think that turning down sponsorship money from our primary sponsor is ever going to happen. Blizzard sponsors the event and always has. Where the money comes from doesn't matter in the slightest and as far as you know, every cent of it could have been warchest funded even if there hadnt been a prizepool increase and we would not have known or been able to do a damn thing about it.

I'm glad we've now gone to blaming SHOUTcraft Kings for all the scenes ills to actually complaining that we take money from our primary sponsor. That is by far the most delusional, out of touch thing I've read all day and what's sad is you're not the first jackass to say it and probably wont be the last either.

Now be careful, you wouldnt want to be a hypocrite. Make sure you never benefit, come in contact with or use anything you disagree with ever again in your life, otherwise you've committed a mortal sin and arent allowed to do anything anymore! Cos hypocrisy is a magic word that wins all arguments! If you're 5 years old....

Your government services analogy is bullshit. We all pay taxes and are functionally responsible for the debt governments accumulate. You can use a service you don't like when you don't have a reasonable alternative and are forced into paying for it and not be a hypocrite.

I can't speak to the finances of your twitch channel, but are you saying that sub money that the channel earns doesn't go to you? Do you think nobody subscribes just because of the one event?

You're smart enough to know that the average person is extremely limited in their ability to support the scene. Suppose I had a million great ideas on tournaments and how prize pools should be distributed, do you think Blizzard would cut me a check for $5,000 a month to do that regardless of how thorough or professional my proposal is? Hell no because I'd have zero reputation nor do I represent a known company or brand. How long do you think it would take to establish that reputation? 6 months? A year? 2? How much time and money would I have to spend to build that and what guarantee is there that Blizzard wouldn't just decide to cut their support for the scene by then? Even if there were a guarantee, that's a lot to ask of someone when there is no payoff outside of personal sanctification.

Nobody is blaming SHOUTcraft Kings for all the scene's ills. Don't set up straw men.


You seem fairly intelligent and reasonable.. not sure how said person gets to a place where they would argue with TB that somehow.. him accepting more money for the event he was already doing is hurting the scene in any way or (and this is even sillier) making the rich get richer and making it so we have "the same 20 pros" etc. I mean.. I can quote you further but you know what you said right?

It wasn't smart or good. It isn't TB's job to make tourneys with the explicit purpose you think is most "important" for the scene and criticizing him for putting on a show that you think could have it's funds go elsewhere is really really dumb. Be happy he has made it part of his business to make shows / content we can enjoy. If you'd like other forms of content empower the people who can / would do it as best you can. Tearing down TB doesn't actually do that btw.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
August 13 2017 22:52 GMT
#725
Damn it Bly ruined everything !
On August 14 2017 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
Gap confirmed not closed. Koreans lagging behind foreigners

Agree
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-13 22:58:18
August 13 2017 22:55 GMT
#726
How long do you think it would take to establish that reputation? 6 months? A year? 2?


I spent 8.

Better get a move on, times a wastin'. Aint nobody giving you anything for a forum post, especially when its got such inaccuracies as claiming we're just propping up the top 20 players when we've now invited over 70 to our event, with 3 new invitees today alone.

I respect people who try to do something meaningful, even if its really small. Grandstanders and backseat organizers? Not so much. People who treat arguments as if they're videogames to be won and judged on points? Not so much either. You really think that government analogy matters at all? You got the point, but then you tried to play semantics with it because you're more concerned with "winning" an internet argument than building anything. There aren't any winners, there's no prizes, no points, nobody is acting as judge. Its a literal waste of time, he says in full awareness that he's also wasting his time.

If people dont have enough respect for the work I do to avoid stooping to silly levels like trying to make bullshit hypocrisy arguments or trying to dictate where money that doesn't belong to them goes, I'm not going to respect what they have to say either. That should be common sense, nobody is owed respect by default beyond basic politeness (until they stop being polite....). Respect has to be earned and respect that isnt earned isnt worth anything anyway.

8 years. 8 years of the bullshit and the complaining and the disrespect, even now. Some would wonder why I put up with it and sometimes I ask that question myself. A lot of people didnt put up with it and just left when the going got tough for greener pastures and more money. Maybe instead of trying to browbeat those of us that are left, try to help us make the scene better instead.
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-14 00:42:49
August 14 2017 00:39 GMT
#727
it was a greate and very funny SC2 event today! Thanks to TB and everyone who helps to let SHOUTCraft Kings happen!

And to all who complain about the extra prizemoney for shoutcraft kings.
TB is dedicating a lot of time and money to run some fun and a little bit less serious events("most unfair tournamnet in SC2" ) and if blizz decides to inverst more money into it, than that´s great.
to say that shoutcraft kings didn´t do anything for the scene is simply not right. It has one of the highest viewerships of all SC2 events and is creating a lot of really cool stroies of which there are not too many in SC2. Both are things that are essential to get new people into the scene.

And even if you have a different opinion on that, don´t blame TB for things he can do anything about it.
It´s not his fault that there is no Code A or anything like it anymore. Blizzard is not a charity organisation, the only reason for them to invest money into SC2-esport is that it is an advertisement for their game.

Convince blizz that it is worth it to run tournaments for up and coming players and things like that but don´t talk shit about things that have nothing to do with that.
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
August 14 2017 00:49 GMT
#728
And if you think:
the average person is extremely limited in their ability to support the scene.


Take,TB, the guys from BaseTradeTV,... were all average people when their started..
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
August 14 2017 00:53 GMT
#729
btw I´m hyped for this Luchador-thing you guys are planing
Synchro
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines52 Posts
August 14 2017 01:20 GMT
#730
I came back to the scene just this June because of shoutcraft kings. Thank you TB for doing such a great event. Looking forward to next month!
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
August 14 2017 02:28 GMT
#731
On August 14 2017 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
Gap confirmed not closed. Koreans lagging behind foreigners

Koreans were playing well past midnight though. Foreigners had an unfair advantage.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
August 14 2017 02:54 GMT
#732
On August 14 2017 11:28 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
Gap confirmed not closed. Koreans lagging behind foreigners

Koreans were playing well past midnight though. Foreigners had an unfair advantage.

they always play past midnight lol, sometimes they stream until 3 am and sleep in.
Faker is the GOAT!
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
August 14 2017 05:11 GMT
#733
On August 14 2017 11:28 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
Gap confirmed not closed. Koreans lagging behind foreigners

Koreans were playing well past midnight though. Foreigners had an unfair advantage.


Lal tahts standard. Korean progamers frequently keep late hours and absolutely adjust schedules when they know they have big events coming up that require it.

It's just part of being a progamer.
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 14 2017 06:12 GMT
#734
On August 14 2017 11:28 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
Gap confirmed not closed. Koreans lagging behind foreigners

Koreans were playing well past midnight though. Foreigners had an unfair advantage.


Dumb excuses as always.

Serral's wins were early on, and Neeb is in Korea too.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 14 2017 08:07 GMT
#735
On August 14 2017 15:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 11:28 geokilla wrote:
On August 14 2017 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
Gap confirmed not closed. Koreans lagging behind foreigners

Koreans were playing well past midnight though. Foreigners had an unfair advantage.


Dumb excuses as always.

Serral's wins were early on, and Neeb is in Korea too.


Koreans were jet lagged.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 14 2017 08:30 GMT
#736
I bet it was played on the European server too.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
August 14 2017 08:57 GMT
#737
I can't believe the Koreans just weren't trying.
hi. big fan.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
August 14 2017 09:00 GMT
#738
Results look like terrancraft.
What happened?
WriterMaru
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 14 2017 09:13 GMT
#739
Bet TB made sure to have a big round of ads right before each korean played to tire them out as much as possible too.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
August 14 2017 09:15 GMT
#740
On August 14 2017 18:13 Durnuu wrote:
Bet TB made sure to have a big round of ads right before each korean played to tire them out as much as possible too.

As far as I see on liquipedia, koreans didn't perform that bad, just terrans.
That doesn't surprise me much :D

Why is everyone arguing on the last pages?
What is this debate about?
WriterMaru
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-14 09:33:01
August 14 2017 09:32 GMT
#741
Don't really know why people are hating, this tournament is probably the best regular SC2 event right after the Korean leagues, the players apparently want to participate in this (with the increased prize pool they even have more incentive to do so) and they know the schedule beforehand, so they should be able to plan and prepare accordingly.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 14 2017 10:01 GMT
#742
Is TB worse than Hitler?
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
August 14 2017 11:30 GMT
#743
On August 14 2017 19:01 Heartland wrote:
Is TB worse than Hitler?


Yes

Definitely yes
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ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
August 14 2017 11:31 GMT
#744
On August 14 2017 18:00 Poopi wrote:
Results look like terrancraft.
What happened?


Do they really?

With only one terran taking a single map, do they really?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 14 2017 11:34 GMT
#745
On August 14 2017 20:31 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 18:00 Poopi wrote:
Results look like terrancraft.
What happened?


Do they really?

With only one terran taking a single map, do they really?

He meant ZParCraft, don't worry, Poopi is the first person to whine when Terran doesn't win.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
August 14 2017 11:39 GMT
#746
On August 14 2017 20:31 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 18:00 Poopi wrote:
Results look like terrancraft.
What happened?


Do they really?

With only one terran taking a single map, do they really?

I was being facetious
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