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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Poll: Stats vs ClassicClassic Wins (8) 62% Stats Wins (5) 38% 13 total votes Your vote: Stats vs Classic (Vote): Stats Wins (Vote): Classic Wins
Poll: ByuL vs DarkDark Wins (7) 58% ByuL Wins (5) 42% 12 total votes Your vote: ByuL vs Dark (Vote): ByuL Wins (Vote): Dark Wins
Poll: Solar vs aLiveSolar Wins (7) 64% aLive Wins (4) 36% 11 total votes Your vote: Solar vs aLive (Vote): Solar Wins (Vote): aLive Wins
Poll: Maru vs herOherO Wins (8) 62% Maru Wins (5) 38% 13 total votes Your vote: Maru vs herO (Vote): Maru Wins (Vote): herO Wins
Poll: Dear vs INnoVationINnoVation Wins (12) 80% Dear Wins (3) 20% 15 total votes Your vote: Dear vs INnoVation (Vote): Dear Wins (Vote): INnoVation Wins
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Oh, Valdes, I'm a Starcraft lover all right. *twitches suggestively*
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Gogo Classic/Dark/Solar/herO/INno
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Nobody likes PvP, it's the 2nd boringest matchup in the game.
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On July 24 2017 19:08 Ej_ wrote: Nobody likes PvP, it's the 2nd boringest matchup in the game. Please stop trolling with these terribly wrong opinions.
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On July 24 2017 19:08 Ej_ wrote: Nobody likes PvP, it's the 2nd boringest matchup in the game. Bring back HotS
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
PvP was the best MU. Zest is the GOAT. Blink era was balanced. HerO wasn't a villian. This PvP is great.
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I played a 20 minute M E C H A N I C game and it looks like I haven't missed anything in the meantime.
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On July 24 2017 19:15 GumBa wrote: PvP was the best MU. Zest is the GOAT. Blink era was balanced. HerO wasn't a villian. This PvP is great. My man, my man, my man.
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Valdez mixing up Classic and Stats.
Hmm.
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I bet Classic but if Stats wins I'm totally okay with that
Safety bets
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progamers take golds and forget to make more gates
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So how did this end up with double forge from both players?
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Classic is still gonna lose but it's impressive that he hasn't lost yet
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Wow, that prism flank was clutch
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On July 24 2017 19:22 Elentos wrote: So how did this end up with double forge from both players? They both built forges.
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On July 24 2017 19:22 Ej_ wrote: progamers take golds and forget to make more gates Stats seems to have a fair share of them though.
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Huh, Classic taking the three gas base.
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I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game
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On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game eSports history made in another PvP
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On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game And now you've also seen why people don't take it
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From what I saw, everything except the handling of his own warp prisms was super clean from Stats.
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On July 24 2017 19:25 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game And now you've also seen why people don't take it The critical mistake. Had to build three assimilators.
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On July 24 2017 19:25 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game eSports history made in another PvP The legendary mu which creates legends played by legends for legends.
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On July 24 2017 19:27 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 19:25 D-light wrote:On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game eSports history made in another PvP The legendary mu which creates legends played by legends for legends. A tournament where everyone plays Protoss would be epic. It would be a league full of legends.
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On July 24 2017 19:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 19:27 GumBa wrote:On July 24 2017 19:25 D-light wrote:On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game eSports history made in another PvP The legendary mu which creates legends played by legends for legends. A tournament where everyone plays Protoss would be epic. It would be a league full of legends. Any tournament in 2014 ?
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On July 24 2017 19:30 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 19:28 Elentos wrote:On July 24 2017 19:27 GumBa wrote:On July 24 2017 19:25 D-light wrote:On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game eSports history made in another PvP The legendary mu which creates legends played by legends for legends. A tournament where everyone plays Protoss would be epic. It would be a league full of legends. Any tournament in 2014 ?  There were Zergs in those, someone had to lose
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On July 24 2017 19:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 19:30 Durnuu wrote:On July 24 2017 19:28 Elentos wrote:On July 24 2017 19:27 GumBa wrote:On July 24 2017 19:25 D-light wrote:On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game eSports history made in another PvP The legendary mu which creates legends played by legends for legends. A tournament where everyone plays Protoss would be epic. It would be a league full of legends. Any tournament in 2014 ?  There were Zergs in those, someone had to lose  The best era.
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On July 24 2017 19:30 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 19:28 Elentos wrote:On July 24 2017 19:27 GumBa wrote:On July 24 2017 19:25 D-light wrote:On July 24 2017 19:24 Durnuu wrote: I think it's the first time I see the 3 gas base taken in a pro game eSports history made in another PvP The legendary mu which creates legends played by legends for legends. A tournament where everyone plays Protoss would be epic. It would be a league full of legends. Any tournament in 2014 ?  After the first 5 months it got pretty quiet.
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Solid amount of gates by Stats again.
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That was so clean from Stats.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Classic is too mentally weak and TILTS. Stats with the amazing TEMPO play.
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Stats taking first in Premier. For now.
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On July 24 2017 19:39 GumBa wrote: O boy a ZvZ A ZvZ with Dark, too.
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Yeah, Dark has an experience lead, but is he a talent level ahead to take a better fight?
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On July 24 2017 19:46 Ej_ wrote: Yeah, Dark has an experience lead, but is he a talent level ahead to take a better fight? Yeah, he's a talent level ahead, but will he do the most talented build that is 13/12?
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Poll: How many 13/12 ?1 (0) 0% 2 (1) 33% 3 (1) 33% 4 (0) 0% 5 (1) 33% 6 (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: How many 13/12 ? (Vote): 1 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 4 (Vote): 5 (Vote): 6
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On July 24 2017 19:48 Durnuu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Poll: How many 13/12 ?1 (0) 0% 2 (1) 33% 3 (1) 33% 4 (0) 0% 5 (1) 33% 6 (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: How many 13/12 ? (Vote): 1 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 4 (Vote): 5 (Vote): 6
I like how I forgot the option "0".
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On July 24 2017 19:54 Elentos wrote: ROACH ROACH ROACH Do you believe in a thing called roach?
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Dark Still Can't Play ZvZ, a blog series
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'DARK CANNOT TAKE THIS FIGHT!'
What's he supposed to do, give up all his bases?
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This is certainly a game.
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Super early lair from ByuL, not looking good for him
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speedling all-in vs gasless on overgrowth
???
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So many lings, but ByuL has a crap ton of roaches :/ E : dark is dead as fuck
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god dammit
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Looks like Dark thought he was far ahead when they were really even
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Are you fucking kidding me
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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lol ByuL. Someone buy him a hat.
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ByuL really fucked up, chasing those lings for 3 minutes while he just needed to push
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That was a great defense, a Liquibet saving defense even.
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wow, dark is a magician
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We need some new dank ads
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0/2 so far, i expect solar to lose now
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On July 24 2017 20:34 Elentos wrote: We need some new dank ads Some manufacturer of hats.
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Wolf the Mosquito Assassin casting a game featuring the Scan Bandit.
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On July 24 2017 20:29 Ej_ wrote: lol ByuL. Someone buy him a hat. He'd still be behind the meta without a second one.
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Sad Wolf.
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Solar's ZvT has been pretty impressive recently. Not gonna count aLive out entirely though.
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Ling bane hydra with the 'regular' base setup? Ooooooooooh
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ZvT became ZvP Ling/bane/hydra and baneling drops
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aLive is the Zest of this season
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On July 24 2017 20:50 Elentos wrote: aLive is the Zest of this season alive is best
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On July 24 2017 20:50 Elentos wrote: aLive is the Zest of this season And ByuL is sOs ?
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On July 24 2017 20:51 Durnuu wrote:And ByuL is sOs ?  Yes.
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aLive does this thing in TvZ where he does no damage to the Zerg, feels very confident in going to the late game, and then gets rolled.
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Should have gone M E C H A N I C
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Solar is really good with that ling-bane-hydra style.
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This bunker is where Solar decides to take the gold and do a huge roach all-in
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It's so weird that Solar stays on 1 evo
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Charging out of creep with ling/baneling is usually how Zerg lost on this map
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If aLive loses this game he's doing so much worse than Zest did in the first season.
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On July 24 2017 20:39 The_Red_Viper wrote: 0/2 so far, i expect solar to lose now It's happening
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Solar doesn't have enough on any side, aLive crushed him
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aLive played this one really well, didn't let Solar do any harass
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That is one of the worst defense in ZvT I have seen in quite some time...
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Alright, aLive's first map win in week 4. If he loses the match he's still last though.
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4 drones to 2 hellions? I mean that's not supposed to happen.
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aLive going blind tanks could have made mutas really good for once tbh
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Well that was a nice fight
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that doom drop to abuse the immobility of Solar's army is very smart
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On July 24 2017 21:30 [PkF] Wire wrote: that doom drop to abuse the immobility of Solar's army is very smart Also can replace the "useless" units with vikings/ghosts which he needs
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I like how the nydus worm is still alive and still hasn't been used :D
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Well solar is pretty dead
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Really nice game from aLive
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On July 24 2017 21:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: looks good for Mr Solar Nice jinxing
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On July 24 2017 21:35 Elentos wrote:Nice jinxing thanks although it did look good to me at the time ; he had a massive bank, bl tech, nydus tech to backstab aLive. But then more or less everything went wrong and yeah that doomdrop was pretty clutch
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Ok now Maru wins because my liquibets say herO, also Inno will probably lose to dear
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aLive with that doom drop did pretty much the only thing he could to win the game and Solar didn't account for it at all. His army just sat in the middle of the map doing nothing.
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'Bomber style' 'clearing creep'
This translation doesn't check out
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Wow those nerds memeing about Hero.
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can we see a meme "protec, attac, get rekt " for herO warp prism ?
Good thinking by Maru tbh
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herO going back to his roots it's funny cuz he's on ROOT
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Not a good day for liquibets
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On July 24 2017 22:12 Durnuu wrote: Not a good day for liquibets You are 0/4 as well?
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herO what the fuck are you doing
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On July 24 2017 22:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:You are 0/4 as well? Nah, 1/4, I got Dark E : cyclone anti-air killed a phoenix, that's achievement worthy imo
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Now Innovation has to lose and i'm done
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On July 24 2017 22:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:Now Innovation has to lose and i'm done would it be enough to make you tilt before your LRSL match ?  If INno wins, don't forget to mention to Olli that he's still GOAT and that yesterday's HSC is not even premier
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On July 24 2017 22:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:Now Innovation has to lose and i'm done would it be enough to make you tilt before your LRSL match ?  He's already tilted
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On July 24 2017 22:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:Now Innovation has to lose and i'm done would it be enough to make you tilt before your LRSL match ?  If INno wins, don't forget to mention to Olli that he's still GOAT and that yesterday's HSC is not even premier I am already tilted
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On July 24 2017 22:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:Now Innovation has to lose and i'm done would it be enough to make you tilt before your LRSL match ?  If INno wins, don't forget to mention to Olli that he's still GOAT and that yesterday's HSC is not even premier Say to Olli Zest is a patchtoss. Guaranteed T I L T
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Also Wire you're lying, TaeJa is the GOAT because he won 113,763 HSCs.
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On July 24 2017 22:19 Elentos wrote: Also Wire you're lying, TaeJa is the GOAT because he won 113,763 HSCs. ah yeah true liquib bias
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Use to tilt Olli:
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On July 24 2017 22:21 Elentos wrote:Use to tilt Olli: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pYIuz2o.png) that was so good (props to Marianosc2, give unto Caesar what is Caesar's)
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Is it just me btw or do the breaks today seem really long?
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On July 24 2017 22:23 Elentos wrote: Is it just me btw or do the breaks today seem really long? they do seem quite long but they're smartly computed so that SSL ends precisely when Olli - Viper begins
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On July 24 2017 22:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:23 Elentos wrote: Is it just me btw or do the breaks today seem really long? they do seem quite long but they're smartly computed so that SSL ends precisely when Olli - Viper begins Setting up for the true hype match. And maybe Ej follows it up by casting mizenhauer vs Kashim game 3, to break his client a 3rd time.
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Brendan says SSL, GSL, and Blizzcon. Cmon Inno, make it happen.
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On July 24 2017 22:29 pvsnp wrote: Brendan says SSL, GSL, and Blizzcon. Cmon Inno, make it happen. that's unlikely (even more given how this first map is looking lol), but if that happened, no one would be able to deny the goat status. Even Olli.
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Innovation confirmed slump. Gonna lose 2 matches in a row
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Just go widow mines against Dear and win easy
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On July 24 2017 22:31 Fango wrote: Innovation confirmed slump. Gonna lose 2 matches in a row what a shit player
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On July 24 2017 22:31 D-light wrote: Day of upsets. the league of upsets and memes
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well that was quite a catastrophic first game
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I mean
He just had nothing in the main against the oracle.
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On July 24 2017 22:35 Elentos wrote: I mean
He just had nothing in the main against the oracle. Exactly why the oracle is a badly designed unit But let's not get there right now, olli already knows his race is weird
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On July 24 2017 22:31 Fango wrote: Innovation confirmed slump. Gonna lose 2 matches in a row Happened to him last season too. He will bounce back again
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On July 24 2017 22:21 Elentos wrote:Use to tilt Olli: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pYIuz2o.png)
That's too good, I'm not even mad
+ Show Spoiler +
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How to win SSL: lose in the gsl ro32
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On July 24 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:35 Elentos wrote: I mean
He just had nothing in the main against the oracle. Exactly why the oracle is a badly designed unit But let's not get there right now, olli already knows his race is weird 
You see, as long as Terran has widow mines I'm fine with oracles being silly too. Adepts on the other hand D:
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when the opening is two adepts no msc, you kinda know an oracle is coming
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On July 24 2017 22:40 [PkF] Wire wrote: when the opening is two adepts no msc, you kinda know an oracle is coming
Could be proxy robo too I think, even dark shrine (although that sucks)
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Why do Terrans run Widow Mines out in the open like that? Dont they know Mines are visible when burrowed?
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On July 24 2017 22:41 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:40 [PkF] Wire wrote: when the opening is two adepts no msc, you kinda know an oracle is coming Could be proxy robo too I think, even dark shrine (although that sucks) possible yeah, but even if you didn't confirm the sg you can have a 90% sg, 9% proxy of some sort and 1% dts in the back of your head ^^
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the moveout is really dumb from INno
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Inno is tired of the goat talk, just decides to suck now
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On July 24 2017 22:44 The_Red_Viper wrote: Inno is tired of the goat talk, just decides to suck now Inno about to enter a Zest-like slump
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On July 24 2017 22:44 The_Red_Viper wrote: Inno is tired of the goat talk, just decides to suck now Live jinxing
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Terran'd
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I give up on trying to pretend I understand anything to that game
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how did dear think he could take that fight with 2 stalkers? he saw the first liberators moving out with his fleeing warp prism. would 7 stalkers have been better? or was he just dead as soon as he let inno siege the choke?
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If dear doesn't let all his adepts die to mines he would have killed every scv lol
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I have no idea what Dear was thinking there...
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Wtf Dear. I mean I'm glad he threw but that was an insane throw. Literally the only way he could have lost and he did it.
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On July 24 2017 22:46 Fango wrote: If dear doesn't let all his adepts die to mines he would have killed every scv lol i don't think it matters how many scvs he kills. the army innovation killed him with was already built
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All Dear had to do was stall to warp in a round of stalkers, Inno was the one running out of time.
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On July 24 2017 22:47 Elentos wrote: All Dear had to do was stall to warp in a round of stalkers, Inno was the one running out of time. yeah that round of adepts set my teeth on edge, like seriously
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Dear played it perfectly until that fight.
Oh you plan to attack me on 2 bases. Tag your army, prism to counter attack as soon as you move out, and statis ward every where around my bases.
And he fucked up. I feel like Byun was right, if the protoss doesn't make mistakes it's very hard to kill it.
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Dear should have made pylons were he fought, overcharge wins that and that was all he needed
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On July 24 2017 22:46 brickrd wrote: how did dear think he could take that fight with 2 stalkers? he saw the first liberators moving out with his fleeing warp prism. would 7 stalkers have been better? or was he just dead as soon as he let inno siege the choke? Yeah, dear should have had more stalkers considering his economic advantage. Even if he traded somewhat-poorly and survived, he'd be ahead 'cuz of the extra base.
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On July 24 2017 22:48 djraphi23 wrote: And he fucked up. I feel like Byun was right, if the protoss doesn't make mistakes it's very hard to kill it. but the only reason innovation was forced to attack is because he let 10 scouted adepts walk into his base
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They change the caster right? Who is the new one?
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On July 24 2017 22:49 ghostmaster93 wrote: They change the caster right? Who is the new one? What, you mean Wolf who's been casting in Korea since WoL?
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On July 24 2017 22:47 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:46 Fango wrote: If dear doesn't let all his adepts die to mines he would have killed every scv lol i don't think it matters how many scvs he kills. the army innovation killed him with was already built What about the liberators? Pretty sure the libs weren't produced when innovation first moved out with a revealed army.
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I want to see a Taeja-style instant GG
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On July 24 2017 22:52 Durnuu wrote: I want to see a Taeja-style instant GG That was the best game of that GSL season.
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Dear will die to liberators.
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Man, early Protoss thirds when their late-game tech is equal to, if not better than, Terran.
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On July 24 2017 22:56 plogamer wrote: Man, early Protoss thirds when their late-game tech is equal to, if not better than, Terran. And Zerg does the same vs Terran! SMH, Terrans always the weakest race.
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Nooooooooo
0 liquibets
Z E R O
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0/5, today is a good day
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Guys I did it
I liquibet Dark, Maru and Dear
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On July 24 2017 22:58 Ej_ wrote: Nooooooooo
0 liquibets
Z E R O One D A R K B O Y S
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Bunny>innovation confirmed
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UPSETS LEAGUE
Dear played well that last map though, deserved victory
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On July 24 2017 22:59 Elentos wrote: Guys I did it
I liquibet Dark, Maru and Dear you fucking wot m8 Well done. I almost put Dear as well actually, but since he lost to Bunny I decided against it.
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Ok I'm ready for Viper vs DLO
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On July 24 2017 22:59 Elentos wrote: Guys I did it
I liquibet Dark, Maru and Dear wow impressive
I don't even care about liquibets anymore, at that point trying to predict anything in that scene is vain.
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On July 24 2017 22:51 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:49 ghostmaster93 wrote: They change the caster right? Who is the new one? What, you mean Wolf who's been casting in Korea since WoL?
Well I just watch SC2 back so I do not know much. Just watch the SSL last week and remember the caster is annoying.
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On July 24 2017 23:01 ghostmaster93 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 22:51 Elentos wrote:On July 24 2017 22:49 ghostmaster93 wrote: They change the caster right? Who is the new one? What, you mean Wolf who's been casting in Korea since WoL? Well I just watch SC2 back so I do not know much. Just watch the SSL last week and remember the caster is annoying. Rapid casted because Wolf was on vacation or something like that.
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United States97276 Posts
Heromarine needs to give these Koreans TvP lessons
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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On July 25 2017 14:00 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? ByuL vs Dark game 3, Solar vs aLive Game 3 off the top of my head
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On July 25 2017 14:33 Durnuu wrote:ByuL vs Dark game 3, Solar vs aLive Game 3 off the top of my head i agree with game 3 of Solar v. Alive. good game.
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