• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:22
CEST 22:22
KST 05:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5443 users

[GSL] Super Tournament Season 1 2017 - Day 3 - Page 11

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 22 Next All
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 08 2017 10:49 GMT
#201
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.


You could dt rush and I guarantee you'd win some games.

Or 12 pool and run into double hatch before pool.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
_Epi_
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany158 Posts
April 08 2017 10:50 GMT
#202
alive better wins this after kicking innovation out of the tournament
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
April 08 2017 10:52 GMT
#203
On April 08 2017 19:43 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 19:23 Elentos wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:20 Fango wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:03 Inflicted wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:02 Durnuu wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 08 2017 18:58 Ej_ wrote:
On April 08 2017 18:58 Fango wrote:
Well darks gonna lose meaning hero will make the finals

this is a bo5 and byul managed to lose to impact


This is ByuL. He'll lose to Impact then make Dark look like a chump.

He's unstable in this mu, always been his way

Remember when he lost to TerrOr ? :D


He dropped a map to leifeng, a diamond Zerg, in GSL qualifiers


I feel like even the best zergs will lose zvzs every now and again just to chance

Even in ZvZ most pros won't ever drop a game to a diamond player.


I dunno, it seems easy to go double hatch before pool and get cheesed. Or against protoss get DT rushed and just leave there. Without seeing the actual game its hard to tell.

The difference in execution between a pro and a diamond player is so obscene that even a supposed build order win shouldn't help much.

Regardless, I doubt that's what actually happened because I'm pretty sure you need to be at least Masters to be allowed to enter GSL qualifiers.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Malgo
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany76 Posts
April 08 2017 10:52 GMT
#204
a fast 3-0 one sided for alive incoming. called it
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12992 Posts
April 08 2017 10:53 GMT
#205
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.

Ever since I beat a low master zerg (800ZvZ games on LotV...) in ZvZ for my first time playing zerg in forever, I don't know if ZvZ is that volatile, or if zerg is now that much easy for such bad players to become masters...
WriterMaru
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
April 08 2017 10:54 GMT
#206
10152 viewers is not bad ...

But still, it is less than when over 80000 people were watching Kripparian playing minesweeper for about one hour a few days ago when he couldn't connect to the battlenet to the overloaded servers after N'Goro expansion start ...

That minesweeper must be a great game ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 08 2017 10:55 GMT
#207
On April 08 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.


You could dt rush and I guarantee you'd win some games.

Or 12 pool and run into double hatch before pool.

double hatch before pool isn't a real build in ZvZ
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
April 08 2017 10:55 GMT
#208
Did the guy get paid enough to say "my insanity... alive"? That soundclip can be used against him for the rest of his life.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
April 08 2017 10:56 GMT
#209
On April 08 2017 19:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.


You could dt rush and I guarantee you'd win some games.

Or 12 pool and run into double hatch before pool.

double hatch before pool isn't a real build in ZvZ

Only that exact one time when you want to mindgame another pro.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 08 2017 10:57 GMT
#210
On April 08 2017 19:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 19:55 Ej_ wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.


You could dt rush and I guarantee you'd win some games.

Or 12 pool and run into double hatch before pool.

double hatch before pool isn't a real build in ZvZ

Only that exact one time when you want to mindgame another pro.

the pro known as Leifeng
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
April 08 2017 10:58 GMT
#211
On April 08 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.


You could dt rush and I guarantee you'd win some games.

Or 12 pool and run into double hatch before pool.

I'm pretty sure most pros - Korean pros especially - would win 99/100 games against diamonds even with their offrace.

But again, I don't believe that's what actually happened with ByuL because I'm pretty sure GSL qualis are Masters+.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
April 08 2017 11:00 GMT
#212
The Oasis Pylon
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 08 2017 11:01 GMT
#213
good lord...
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
April 08 2017 11:02 GMT
#214
Poll: Recommend aLive vs Hush Game 1?

★★★★★ (0)
 
0%

★★★★ (0)
 
0%

★★★ (2)
 
22%

★★ (2)
 
22%

★ (5)
 
56%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend aLive vs Hush Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★

ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
April 08 2017 11:02 GMT
#215
I rate this game Hush/10
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 08 2017 11:02 GMT
#216
just woke up
90% of the results in this tournament so far have been the opposite of what I expected.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 08 2017 11:04 GMT
#217
On April 08 2017 19:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.


You could dt rush and I guarantee you'd win some games.

Or 12 pool and run into double hatch before pool.

double hatch before pool isn't a real build in ZvZ


I've seen pros do it in LoTV though that's the point. Just saying if you rushed every game you play, at some point you'll get an easy win.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
April 08 2017 11:04 GMT
#218
On April 08 2017 20:02 travis wrote:
just woke up
90% of the results in this tournament so far have been the opposite of what I expected.

Sounds like your Liquibets are having a bad time
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 08 2017 11:04 GMT
#219
On April 08 2017 20:02 travis wrote:
just woke up
90% of the results in this tournament so far have been the opposite of what I expected.


Ikr i expected hush to crush alive 3-0
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 08 2017 11:04 GMT
#220
On April 08 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 19:46 opisska wrote:
I am pretty sure I couldn't beat a pro no matter the build orders, unless they literally build 12 pools before anything else. I'd probably lose an equal numbers ling-drone fight to someone who can actually micro; yet I was 1v1 Diamond for some time recently.


You could dt rush and I guarantee you'd win some games.

Or 12 pool and run into double hatch before pool.


Maybe the DT thing could work, if I just don't die befoe getting the DTs. But that would be mostly on the other guy underestmating me and not scouting.

I still think that even with a 12pool into only workers a proper pro could just outmicro me forever.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 22 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 600
BRAT_OK 110
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2614
Purpose 19
Hm[arnc] 16
Dota 2
canceldota119
Counter-Strike
fl0m2181
minikerr63
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu481
MindelVK13
Other Games
Grubby3988
Liquid`RaSZi1494
XaKoH 737
Beastyqt726
tarik_tv667
byalli351
ArmadaUGS126
Chillindude28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5880
BasetradeTV265
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21339
Other Games
• imaqtpie1725
• Shiphtur344
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 38m
GSL
14h 38m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 38m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 14h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.