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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2017 19:58 GMT
#1621
On March 04 2017 04:57 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:57 Morbidius wrote:
By the way. has there ever been a draw in competitive SC2 in a matchup that doesn't have a Terran?

Life vs First on Deadwing, though Life could have won, just got lazy/impatient

you sure? I think it was more a case of microing a single drone vs the voids a milion times over, could've gone either way
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
March 03 2017 19:58 GMT
#1622
On March 04 2017 04:56 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2017 04:53 shabby wrote:
He had 440 minerals too, but spent 50 minerals on something, before he derped away the stargate. So he kinda threw away two pretty secure wins

the moment he realized he lacked 10 minerals to build a nexus he was probably pretty pissed.


he really should have tried made a pheonix straight away and camp over the stargate with all the adepts. I don't understand he wouldn't

There was a triple drop in his main that unpowered his stargate before the basetrade started, he couldn't make a phoenix until he dealt with that. He was just a bit slow.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
March 03 2017 19:58 GMT
#1623
On March 04 2017 04:43 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
In essence, he's saying that if INnoVation does really well, "it's not the race, it's the player", but if let's say Zest does well, "it's not the player, it's the race".

Not sure I agree.


For the top of any race, I'm inclined to say "It's the player."


Remember the last time this was said for a zerg or a toss? Charoisaur offered Zest early 2016, a lot of people did bitch about Zest early 2016 but let's give him that.

Consider how it's said twice a game every time Byun or Innovation is playing.

Do some basic math.
No will to live, no wish to die
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 19:59:13
March 03 2017 19:59 GMT
#1624


there was a game where life played against a protoss with carriers. protoss ran out of interceptors and life ran out of drones or something along those lines. actually i think life had 1 drone left and could have won lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
March 03 2017 19:59 GMT
#1625
On March 04 2017 04:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:57 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2017 04:57 Morbidius wrote:
By the way. has there ever been a draw in competitive SC2 in a matchup that doesn't have a Terran?

Life vs First on Deadwing, though Life could have won, just got lazy/impatient

you sure? I think it was more a case of microing a single drone vs the voids a milion times over, could've gone either way

That's how I remember it but it was a long time ago, so I'm not sure tbh
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2017 20:00 GMT
#1626
I'm gonna laugh if GuMiho wins now.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 03 2017 20:00 GMT
#1627
On March 04 2017 04:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:56 Fango wrote:
On March 04 2017 04:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2017 04:53 shabby wrote:
He had 440 minerals too, but spent 50 minerals on something, before he derped away the stargate. So he kinda threw away two pretty secure wins

the moment he realized he lacked 10 minerals to build a nexus he was probably pretty pissed.


he really should have tried made a pheonix straight away and camp over the stargate with all the adepts. I don't understand he wouldn't

There was a triple drop in his main that unpowered his stargate before the basetrade started, he couldn't make a phoenix until he dealt with that. He was just a bit slow.


that's why I said "tried to". it took him a while to get units there/make a pylon. and then he walks of
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 03 2017 20:00 GMT
#1628
could gumiho possibly be any luckier
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 03 2017 20:00 GMT
#1629
going to game 4 :p
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 20:01:02
March 03 2017 20:00 GMT
#1630
On March 04 2017 04:58 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:43 pvsnp wrote:
In essence, he's saying that if INnoVation does really well, "it's not the race, it's the player", but if let's say Zest does well, "it's not the player, it's the race".

Not sure I agree.


For the top of any race, I'm inclined to say "It's the player."


Remember the last time this was said for a zerg or a toss? Charoisaur offered Zest early 2016, a lot of people did bitch about Zest early 2016 but let's give him that.

.

a lot of people also bitch about Inno.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 03 2017 20:00 GMT
#1631
On March 04 2017 04:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:55 Fango wrote:
if showtime loses to gumiho and gets eliminated that decision to move away from the stargate will haunt him

but I don't see that happening. Showtime seems to be the better player

Not sure about that. Gumiho seemed to have picked bad builds vs showtime twice in a row.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2017 20:01 GMT
#1632
lololololololollo

Polt vs Strange: ultimate arcade edition
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
March 03 2017 20:01 GMT
#1633
Showtime not like this TT
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
March 03 2017 20:01 GMT
#1634
Losing this has high tilt potential I would say

Makro?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 03 2017 20:01 GMT
#1635
feels bad to watch this
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 03 2017 20:02 GMT
#1636
On March 04 2017 04:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:55 Fango wrote:
if showtime loses to gumiho and gets eliminated that decision to move away from the stargate will haunt him

but I don't see that happening. Showtime seems to be the better player


hell no. that first game was so lucky for showtime. perfect build counter
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 03 2017 20:02 GMT
#1637
I actually feel bad for Showtime, that blunder must have tilted him badly.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 03 2017 20:02 GMT
#1638
On March 04 2017 05:00 travis wrote:
could gumiho possibly be any luckier

jinxed it
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 20:03:15
March 03 2017 20:02 GMT
#1639
with the wm nerf Gumiho would have won there. those killed all the marines

wins anyway
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2017 20:03 GMT
#1640
On March 04 2017 05:02 Charoisaur wrote:
with the wm nerf Gumiho would have won there. those killed all the marines

marines don't have shields

not yet
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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