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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12318 Posts
February 28 2017 19:41 GMT
#761
Pretty ez group C in comparison to the others
No will to live, no wish to die
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 28 2017 19:41 GMT
#762
Man TY was guaranteed 1st in group B, why'd they have to put Stats in there?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 28 2017 19:41 GMT
#763
group C = group of not really group of death
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2017 19:42 GMT
#764
Byun
herO
Ryung

TY
Stats
aLive

Zest
Patience
Nerchio (maybe true for 3rd place idk)

Innovation
Dark
Showtime

ez picks
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 28 2017 19:42 GMT
#765
Even though getting in D is unlucky, still hyped to see uThermal vs Dark and Inno
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16007 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 19:44:35
February 28 2017 19:43 GMT
#766
an all-korean ro12 is quite likely although Nerchio and Showtime/uthermal have a decent shot at making it too.

Group A is group of death.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18508 Posts
February 28 2017 19:44 GMT
#767
snute herO same group - definitely rigged by IEM no? :p
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2017 19:45 GMT
#768
The only foriegners with a chance are Nerchio and Showtime. I actually think showtime makes it to ro12 tbh
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 28 2017 19:46 GMT
#769
Snute is a favorite over Ryung/Solar for me.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 28 2017 19:48 GMT
#770
On March 01 2017 02:06 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 23:05 Durnuu wrote:
On February 28 2017 23:04 Elentos wrote:
On February 28 2017 23:03 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2017 23:01 Phredxor wrote:
On February 28 2017 23:01 Penev wrote:
On February 28 2017 23:00 Phredxor wrote:
On February 28 2017 22:59 Elentos wrote:
On February 28 2017 22:58 Phredxor wrote:
On February 28 2017 22:52 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
2 games for our WardiTV Team League team. Which is good enough for me.


How many have you won?

4. But I played every week while Ej_ was mostly reduced to casting.


Wow what a god. I don't know how you find time to actually play with the amount of posting you do here.

I think he is more than one person, kind of an anti alt


So that's where Templar went?

Elentos can play SC2 and isn't an NA shill tho

Listen I'm not convinced regarding the "can play SC2" part.

Hey, you did better than Seeker

GTFO. We don't need people like you around here

I was joking, i love you Seeker <3
Group C is so weak lol
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
February 28 2017 19:48 GMT
#771
good groups. A and B are awfully stacked, C a bit weaker and D looks to be very uneven (the Koreans should dominate). Still looking forward to all those ggs.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 19:53:36
February 28 2017 19:49 GMT
#772
Some pretty stacked groups all told. Group A looks the hardest though. Group B will be interesting, since TY is strong but the other two Terrans aren't as good as Stats or Neeb. C is weaksauce. Group D is gonna be the grave of foreigners. Dark and Inno gonna roflstomp so hard.

Guessing herO, TY, Zest, and Inno in first.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 28 2017 19:49 GMT
#773
C was the weakest group from the start.

Oh boy we're in for a lot of mirrors this week.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
February 28 2017 19:51 GMT
#774
On March 01 2017 04:49 Elentos wrote:
C was the weakest group from the start.

Oh boy we're in for a lot of mirrors this week.

quite hard to avoid with round robin groups of 6 players
but yeah the B and C groups with their 3 mus better produce some good games and generate suspense, otherwise they'll become boring pretty fast
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
February 28 2017 20:18 GMT
#775
Hey, my boi PiliPili can luck out in 3rd place! Woohoo, rejoice!
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 20:24:19
February 28 2017 20:23 GMT
#776
Group A:

1) Byun
2) herO
3) Ryung
4) Snute
5) Solar
6) HeroMarine

Byun and hero ahead of Ryung?! Blasphemy! But nope, it's going to happen. This map pool is a lot different from the GSL map pool and I believe both Byun and hero play on it better. Snute will also be very close to beating Ryung for 3rd place but will probably lose out in the head to head. I do really want to place Snute at 3rd though but in this group it too hard to do. Sorry HeroMarine.

___

Group B:

1)Stats
2)TY
3)Harstem
4)Alive
5)Jjakji
6)Neeb

The hell is this? Herstem...3rd? I believe! Stats and TY both won't lose to anyone else until Stats beats TY in their games. Harstem is looking stronger than Neeb currently and I think will out PvP him. This just leaves Harstem beating both Jjakji and Alive...do I sound crazy yet? Believe my brothers! Honestly, Alive will probably be 3rd in this group but I'll be rooting for Harstem to pull through. =)

___

Group C:

1)Zest
2)Nerchio
3)True
4)Patience
5)Serral
6)Pilipili

Zest is best. Strong protoss that can out PvP and PvZ everybody in this group. Nerchio stands a good chance against Zest but in the end, Zest can get abusive which will get into Nerchio's head. Nerchio can out ZvZ both True & Serral and shouldn't have problem with Pilipili. Patience could out edge True but I think with the current map pool (and the correct map bans!) True should be able to beat Patience. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Patience instead of True for 3rd.

___

Group D:

1)Innovation
2)Dark
3)Mana
4)Gumiho
5)Showtime
6)Uthermal

I want to place somebody else at 1st, I really do...but I can't. Innovation is too good to bet against. I'm taking a calculated risk with Mana taking 3rd in this group. It will come down to him and Gumiho but I believe Mana can out edge Gumiho by the slightest of margins. Showtime, as much as he rocks, will unfortunately bomb out of this group. But at least he'll beat uThermal! <3

___
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 20:35:52
February 28 2017 20:32 GMT
#777
On March 01 2017 05:23 SidianTheBard wrote:
Group A:

1) Byun
2) herO
3) Ryung
4) Snute
5) Solar
6) HeroMarine

Byun and hero ahead of Ryung?! Blasphemy! But nope, it's going to happen. This map pool is a lot different from the GSL map pool and I believe both Byun and hero play on it better. Snute will also be very close to beating Ryung for 3rd place but will probably lose out in the head to head. I do really want to place Snute at 3rd though but in this group it too hard to do. Sorry HeroMarine.

___

Group B:

1)Stats
2)TY
3)Harstem
4)Alive
5)Jjakji
6)Neeb

The hell is this? Herstem...3rd? I believe! Stats and TY both won't lose to anyone else until Stats beats TY in their games. Harstem is looking stronger than Neeb currently and I think will out PvP him. This just leaves Harstem beating both Jjakji and Alive...do I sound crazy yet? Believe my brothers! Honestly, Alive will probably be 3rd in this group but I'll be rooting for Harstem to pull through. =)

___

Group C:

1)Zest
2)Nerchio
3)True
4)Patience
5)Serral
6)Pilipili

Zest is best. Strong protoss that can out PvP and PvZ everybody in this group. Nerchio stands a good chance against Zest but in the end, Zest can get abusive which will get into Nerchio's head. Nerchio can out ZvZ both True & Serral and shouldn't have problem with Pilipili. Patience could out edge True but I think with the current map pool (and the correct map bans!) True should be able to beat Patience. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Patience instead of True for 3rd.

___

Group D:

1)Innovation
2)Dark
3)Mana
4)Gumiho
5)Showtime
6)Uthermal

I want to place somebody else at 1st, I really do...but I can't. Innovation is too good to bet against. I'm taking a calculated risk with Mana taking 3rd in this group. It will come down to him and Gumiho but I believe Mana can out edge Gumiho by the slightest of margins. Showtime, as much as he rocks, will unfortunately bomb out of this group. But at least he'll beat uThermal! <3

___

Not bad, but you totally underestimate Showtime .

Edit: And sadly overestimate Harstem, especially in this group full of Terrans. I feel bad for him.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 28 2017 20:32 GMT
#778
My in depth, well presented and completely objective () thoughts on each group:

A:
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)ByuN > (Z)Solar
(T)ByuN ≤ (P)herO
(T)ByuN > (T)HeRoMaRinE
(T)ByuN ≥ (T)Ryung
(T)ByuN > (Z)Snute
(Z)Solar < (P)herO
(Z)Solar > (T)HeRoMaRinE
(Z)Solar ≤ (T)Ryung
(Z)Solar ≥ (Z)Snute
(P)herO > (T)HeRoMaRinE
(P)herO > (T)Ryung
(P)herO > (Z)Snute
(T)HeRoMaRinE < (T)Ryung
(T)HeRoMaRinE ≤ (Z)Snute
(T)Ryung ≤ (Z)Snute

ByuN and herO fight for 1st, fight for 3rd between Solar, Ryung and possibly Snute. Heromarine is kinda rekt here. Note: I'm not indicating exact results, just likelihood of winning.


B:
+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Neeb < (T)TY
(P)Neeb ≤ (T)aLive
(P)Neeb ≤ (P)Stats
(P)Neeb > (P)Harstem
(P)Neeb ≤ (T)jjakji
(T)TY > (T)aLive
(T)TY ≥ (P)Stats
(T)TY > (P)Harstem
(T)TY > (T)jjakji
(T)aLive < (P)Stats
(T)aLive > (P)Harstem
(T)aLive = (T)jjakji
(P)Stats > (P)Harstem
(P)Stats > (T)jjakji
(P)Harstem < (T)jjakji

If actual TY shows up, Stats is his only competitor for 1st place but he's still the favorite. If foreign tournament TY shows up, he's gonna have to fight for top 2. Still Stats and TY should be top 2. aLive looks to be the favorite for 3rd but he's not really been doing great at offline events so he could get upset. Harstem... Harstem never asked for this. He never asked for any of this.


C:
+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Zest ≥ (Z)TRUE
(P)Zest > (Z)Serral
(P)Zest ≥ (P)Patience
(P)Zest ≥ (Z)Nerchio
(P)Zest > (P)PiLiPiLi
(Z)Serral < (Z)TRUE
(Z)Serral < (P)Patience
(Z)Serral ≤ (Z)Nerchio
(Z)Serral > (P)PiLiPiLi
(Z)TRUE ≤ (P)Patience
(Z)TRUE ≥ (Z)Nerchio
(Z)TRUE > (P)PiLiPiLi
(P)Patience ≥ (Z)Nerchio
(P)Patience > (P)PiLiPiLi
(Z)Nerchio > (P)PiLiPiLi

Zest is the favorite but shouldn't underestimate Patience and TRUE if he wants 1st place. Nerchio has a decent shot at advancing but needs to work on his ZvP confidence. Serral has to really, really show up if he wants to have a chance and PiLiPiLi seems fucked.


D:
+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)Dark > (P)ShoWTimE
(Z)Dark ≤ (T)INnoVation
(Z)Dark > (T)uThermal
(Z)Dark > (T)GuMiho
(Z)Dark > (P)MaNa
(P)ShoWTimE < (T)INnoVation
(P)ShoWTimE ≥ (T)uThermal
(P)ShoWTimE ≤ (T)GuMiho
(P)ShoWTimE > (P)MaNa
(T)INnoVation > (T)uThermal
(T)INnoVation > (T)GuMiho
(T)INnoVation > (P)MaNa
(T)uThermal < (T)GuMiho
(T)uThermal > (P)MaNa
(T)GuMiho > (P)MaNa

Inno and Dark are the obvious favorites, Dark beating Inno is probably the only way Inno doesn't get first. Could see a decent fight for 3rd between Gumi, Showtime and perhaps uThermal. But even with the home crowd advantage I don't see much hope for MaNa.


PS: Sidian's predictions are crazy
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sickkkciiityyy
Profile Joined February 2017
34 Posts
February 28 2017 20:43 GMT
#779
Congrats to Liquid Mana Snute and uThermal for making it.
These groups are sick!!!!
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
February 28 2017 21:05 GMT
#780
Seems we'll have a korean only Ro12... Maybe Nerchio or Showtime has a shot, but thats it.
Why so serious?
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