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His ID is still Neeblet

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 04 2016 19:40 GMT
#1121
Thanks for keeping us posted Ansibled.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 04 2016 19:40 GMT
#1122
On November 05 2016 04:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Swarmhost skins rofl

for that one time you missclick a larva

I sometimes make swarm hosts on the test map and they actually kinda work
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 19:41:19
November 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#1123
On November 05 2016 04:40 Charoisaur wrote:
oh no more skins... as if the zergling skin wasn't annoying enough

zergling skin is the only annoying skin in the game imo
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
November 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#1124
On November 05 2016 04:39 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:35 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:34 bduddy wrote:
But seriously, fuck mandatory military service. It has nothing to do with defense, it's a way for the old generations to maintain control over the younger ones, and keep them from rising too quickly.

would you be of the same opinion if Canada constantly threatened to drop nuclear bombs on you?
Masses of bored recruits standing near the border are really going to help against that, huh?

The fact is, North Korea has no equipment, and most of their admittedly large army will probably desert at the first opportunity. There's no legitimate threat there that a volunteer army (plus a lot of US help) couldn't easily deal with.

Let me guess, you're the kind of guy who says military is the source of all problems, and post pictures titled "The sad truth about today's world..." on Facebook.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#1125
On November 05 2016 04:40 Noonius wrote:
I should become a pro, then legend, then travel to US, get an Asian gf. Solid plan. I see no obvious faults


An obvious fault is getting US long term visa as an citizen of former USSR
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#1126
i really hope someone will make a note of it if they release any content that isn't for $ because i know i'm not the only one never dropping a penny on extras
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
November 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#1127
On November 05 2016 04:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:33 Poopi wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:30 Wintex wrote:
This panel needs a person like Monte to be honest, because these guys don't honestly have any nice gameplay arguments xd.

they should just invite me to analyze ZvT

"yeh well terran moved out before 9:30 so nerchio fucking died"

Does TY ever move out? xD
Everytime I see him play I see him taking leads but refusing to fucking finish the game, so I'm anxiously waiting, hoping he won't lose his whole army stupidly like it can happen easily.

How often does he actually lose his whole army?

TY moves out when he feels like it and he stays home when he feels like.

He hasn't made such a mistake yet but it probably cost him g2 vs Nerchio to play in such a way.
WriterMaru
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10077 Posts
November 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#1128
teams? what teams? kek xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1129
is there any official link for that warchest thing ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1130
On November 05 2016 04:41 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:40 Charoisaur wrote:
oh no more skins... as if the zergling skin wasn't annoying enough

zergling skin is the only annoying skin in the game imo

zergling skin makes it night impossible to count speedlings on the map properly which is a big fuck-you, but the tal'darim protoss skins also annoy me
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1131
On November 05 2016 04:41 Topin wrote:
teams? what teams? kek xD

too soon, you'll trigger the koreaboo !
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1132
Ok this was kinda meh not gonna lie, no bw hd haha
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1133
On November 05 2016 04:41 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:34 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:33 Poopi wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:30 Wintex wrote:
This panel needs a person like Monte to be honest, because these guys don't honestly have any nice gameplay arguments xd.

they should just invite me to analyze ZvT

"yeh well terran moved out before 9:30 so nerchio fucking died"

Does TY ever move out? xD
Everytime I see him play I see him taking leads but refusing to fucking finish the game, so I'm anxiously waiting, hoping he won't lose his whole army stupidly like it can happen easily.

How often does he actually lose his whole army?

TY moves out when he feels like it and he stays home when he feels like.

He hasn't made such a mistake yet but it probably cost him g2 vs Nerchio to play in such a way.

That game was a mix of Nerchio getting super lucky with a depot snipe + Ty going full derp during this attack + hey let's not make any AA & keep spreading tanks vs vipers
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1134
On November 05 2016 04:42 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:41 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:40 Charoisaur wrote:
oh no more skins... as if the zergling skin wasn't annoying enough

zergling skin is the only annoying skin in the game imo

zergling skin makes it night impossible to count speedlings on the map properly which is a big fuck-you, but the tal'darim protoss skins also annoy me


The only thing I am willing to pay serious money for is the option to not see any stupid skins ingame
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1135
Same old same old on the pre-show.

*sigh*
why even
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#1136
On November 05 2016 04:41 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:34 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:33 Poopi wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:30 Wintex wrote:
This panel needs a person like Monte to be honest, because these guys don't honestly have any nice gameplay arguments xd.

they should just invite me to analyze ZvT

"yeh well terran moved out before 9:30 so nerchio fucking died"

Does TY ever move out? xD
Everytime I see him play I see him taking leads but refusing to fucking finish the game, so I'm anxiously waiting, hoping he won't lose his whole army stupidly like it can happen easily.

How often does he actually lose his whole army?

TY moves out when he feels like it and he stays home when he feels like.

He hasn't made such a mistake yet but it probably cost him g2 vs Nerchio to play in such a way.

He lost because he was pushing with his huge lead and couldn't decide whether to commit or pull back when Nerchio countered. Not because he never attacked.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 19:56:02
November 04 2016 19:43 GMT
#1137
Here is how Blizzcon will go down (more or less), it is known:

We open with the talent and expert couch. Everybody is enthusiastic, talks a bit about the tournament, the players, the legacy of the game and other things to lighten the mood, set the tone and generate hype.
Our first match of the day is Tobias Sieber vs Mikołaj Ogonowski. Yes Mikołaj Ogonowski actually made it this far, if you are confused right now this has a reason, most people (rightfully so) expected his fellow countryman Artur Bloch to be in the quarterfinals instead. But the god of starcraft decided otherwise and Ogonowski beat Bloch in the deciding match of group D with the scoreline of 2:0.
What about Tobias Sieber? The german protoss dominated his group by beating both korean players (Baek Dong Jun and Byun Hyun Woo) 2:0 and advanced first because of it.
But the past isn't important anymore, who cares how you made it to the mainstage at blizzcon? Some people do it in a beautiful game like starcraft, where every unit counts, you outsmart your opponents, you execute strategies nobody at home would have thought possible before. Other players make it there through cardgames which are all about RNG, or mobas (oh sorry team brawlers) even less skill focused than league of legends. Some sources say there is even a new game, a new competition at this year's blizzcon. The 10/10 class based hero moba shooter game Overwatch makes its first appearance as well. If you followed the starcraft and esports scene for some time you might think right now: "Wait that is the game which was the reason David Moschetto lost last year against He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, right?" Lol nope he just sucked.
As i said, it isn't important how you got here, right now there is only Tobias Sieber vs Mikołaj Ogonowski. Both players are on their A game, nobody in the audience really can be sure which player actually has the edge. Still both first game eventually go the way of Tobias Sieber. The crowd goes wild, you can hear chants for both players and the commentators announce a small break.
The camera zooms in on Ogonowski, he stares at the screen while a single tear is running down his face. All of a sudden it switches to the Heroes of the Storm stream:

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Wolf is right Ogonowski seems to have a mental block atm and someone else notices this too. Artur Bloch enters the booth and it seems clear that he is frustrated.

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Artur: „Mikołaj there is more at risk than you simply losing a starcraft match, and remember that this is only the first step towards the blizzcon trophy. Our biggest enemy is not germany, it is south korea. Desperate times call for desperate measures!“
Mikołaj: „Wait you really wanna do this right now?“
Artur: „ I don't want to, but we have to. Let's do it for poland!“

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Miktur: „And so it begins!“
The rest of the games the polish zerg wins quite easily, Tobias doesn't get what just happened and nobody else understands where this momentum shift came from either.
Miktur walks up on stage and Smix is ready to interview him.
Smix: „Congratulations Elazer, you just made it to the semifinals of blizzcon! I think it is fair to say that nobody really expected you to be here considering you were the 16th seed for this tournament! What are your thoughts now that you made it and proved you are a top contender for the title?“
Miktur: „I don't think he is a top contender, i should have been here instead!“
Smix: „Euh i think you misunderstood, what are your thoughts now that you won against showtime?“
Miktur: „As i said i should have been here and not Mikołaj!“ „Shut up Artur!“ „...“ „..!..“
The camera cuts away to the expert couch but you can still hear Smix say : „Are you ok?“
Apollo greets us with a big smile and tells us that there apparently are technical difficulties the team needs to fix. The live show should be back in about 20 minutes.
42 minutes later:
The show goes on and it is time for the PvZ of the day, Alex Sunderhaft vs Park Ryung Woo. The crowd is excited to see the american hope and you can hear it: „TSM TSM TSM“.
The first game starts and to the pleasure of everyone the casting archon is commentating it. Both look amazing with their new style.

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Artosis: „Hello nerds around the world, it is time to cast some sc2!“
Tasteless: „Well said Arty, well said! This should be a good game, the american hope Neeb again-“
Artosis: „Neeblet against Dark Tasteless you are absolutely right, this is what nerd dreams are made of i can tell you that much.“
Tasteless: „Indeed, indeed.“ Neeb is known to have good PvZ and he is also the first foreign player to win in a korean tournament since basically forever.“
Artosis: „Oh yeah, since the bw days Tasteless“
Tasteless: „Broodwar, yes. Guys let me tell you one thing, bw was so hard you had to manually send your workers to mine. That's crazy when you think about it.“
Artosi: „Mhm“
Tasteless: „This adept attack Neeblet is doing right now would also take an incredible amount of apm and micro, but let's see what actually happens now!“
Artosis: „Dark is playing beautifully right now, amazing control!“
The game goes on for a few more minutes and Park Ryung Woo wins with a big push Alex Sunderhaft simply cannot hold. The next game starts soon after and Tastosis talk a little bit about the new HBO series „Westworld“ in the beginning. How crazy it would be to be in such a themepark and which progamers would be the best choice to make into robot hosts. Tasteless says jokingly „Well i mean Innovation basically is already a robot, isn't he, hahahaaha“ and Artosis agress with him laughing as well. At the end they both agree on NaDa though, because he has the body and the brain for it, they give a huge shoutout to the infamous thread on TL which is the resource for „many nerd's wet dream“.
This game Sunderhaft wins and the score is 1:1. There is no break this time either, they probably wanna be back on schedule after the first 42 minute break. The next game is a fast one because Park fails to defend Sunderhaft's speciality push, the same one he defended in the first game without much problem. Sunderhaft looks dominating this game, his micro on another level, no banelings really hit his adepts. The crowd cheers again: „Neeb Let Neeb Let Neeb Let“ and the livereport thread on TL also explodes with hits. Some famous sc2 personalities show their whole passion on twitter, here are two randomly selected tweets:

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The fourth game starts and we are back with Tastosis. Both hype Alex Sunderhaft, saying he might be the best foreigner of all time and probably one of the best protoss players as well. The early game seems to be pretty standard and so the casting archon decides to talk about important things instead. The new pokemon editions apparently come out in the near future and tasteless thinks the design of the new creatures is fairly mediocre, artosis disagrees vehemently.
Artosis: „Look Tasteless, you have to consid-“
The screen goes black, twitch chat spams RIP, PICNIC and other silly memes. The LR thread still discusses if Artosis or Tasteless is right in the pokemon question. The stream stays down for another 15 minutes and when it is back the scoreline says 2:2. Apparently we missed the whole game and the korean zerg player somehow won it. We get to hear some excuses and they show us replays of the game. It looks like Park dominated this game quite easily. The next game will be the deciding one and everybody in the stadium and at home knows it. Who will prevail at the end?
The final game starts and no player is willing to take any risks. They both macro up playing as standard as standard gets. Every harassment opportunity gets shut down immediately by the other player and so we make it into the lategame with both competitors having huge ecenomies and access to pretty much their whole techtree as well. Artosis and Tasteless say that this game might be the best PvZ they have ever casted and everyone should tweet it out so nerds all over the world check it out. The observer opens the production tab and points out that Sunderhaft started to build carriers, 6 at a time. The people in the stadium start cheering „USA USA USA“ and it seems like the american protoss player is in PRIME position to win this final game. He pushes with his deathball of toss units and Park Ryung Woo is forced to defend his last expansions with a ton of corruptors, lurkers and hydralisks. His army gets smashed and it is clear that the korean zerg has to gg out any moment. The camera zooms in on Sunderhaft and he also knows that he is seconds away from defeating the huge tournament favorite. The screen goes black again.
The livereport thread on TL is sure, Sunderhaft had this game won and as soon as the stream comes back the scorelines would be 3:2 in favor of the american protoss player. Some discussion about region block and the wcs system being a huge success gets shut down by moderators and people wait knowing it can take a while. Half an hour passes.
We are back and both Sunderhaft and Park are on the stage.

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Tastosis explain that there was a power outage and the replays are broken. The officials decided that there isn't enough time to play the game from start and we will soon get the announcement of the winner. Tastosis say that the last time this has happened as far as they can remember was the infamous msl final between Lee Jae Dong and Lee Young Ho. Back then the officials also had to decide which player had won a specific map and both Artosis and Tasteless agree that they chose the right player.
Artosis: „This time the decision is basically just as clear guys, no need to worry.“
Tasteless: „You are right Arty, Neeb euh Neeblet had a standing army and Dark had no realistic chance to win the game“
We again see the stage where both Park and Sunderhaft wait for the announcement.

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The crowd is silent, this surely has to be a mistake right? But no the official states that it was a very hard decision to make but at the end it seemed clear that Park Ryung Woo was in the better position to take the game. Nobody can fathom how this decision was made but it is too late now, it is official. Sunderhaft runs crying backstage and Park also doesn't seem to be very happy. The fans start booing and Apollo has to move on with the show. What an end to an amazing series!
Behind the stage:
Sunderhaft is ok again even though he still cannot understand how this could happen, the official who announced the decision live on stage approaches him and says: „Don't worry your time will still come.“ He touches his face and strips it away.


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People are still shocked what just happened but the next match of the day is about to begin. The TvT korean elitists around the world were waiting for: Jun Tae Yang the prodigy terran who started playing professional starcraft at the age of twelve vs Byun Hyun Woo the current GSL champion.
The expert talent on the couch is talking about some incredible stats like the TvT streak Jun Tae Yang is on with 27-0 in bo3+ matches or Byun's winrate being even 4% higher. Some of them try to do the math but as everybody knows this isn't something you should try live on air so they soon drop that idea. Before the match starts we still get to see more stats about that duell, how many calories both players have eaten since last blizzcon, how many hours of OW the 10/10 game both terrans have played in total, what their favorite anime of the season is and other useful statistics you can use to argue in LR threads like:

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Enough with the stats though, it is time to see some high level starcraft. The games start and the players don't disappoint. This match will go full 5 games, so much is already clear after the first game just entered midgame. Lots of micro play, lots of multitasking and even lots of dropping siege tanks before the the enemy. Wow. The first game Jun wins through better positioning and a little bit of luck. Both players already seem to be exhausted but that is not too surprising, this is a match on equal footing and everybody in the starcraft community knows that terran is the hardest race and this fact is true since broodwar, which is also why most bonjwas were terran.
The next two games are split 1-1 which makes the scoreline 2-1 in favor of Jun Tae Yang. Byun seems to have the momentum though after he defeated the KT terran on the last map after a 90 minute game which could be desribed at chess for millennials. There is a short break and finally the two players have time to relax a bit and enjoy the atmosphere in the arena. It is great, people are cheering and showing off their signs carefully made for this event.

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Byun and Jun both look at the audience and both notice that their favorite people in the world are here to cheer for them. For Byun it is more though, he remembers the times in the past where he tried to get the attention of Lee Shin Hyung without much success. „Senpai notice me“ again and again. He also remembers the hard times when some foreign scrub on TL made an april fools post, announcing that PRIME had the support of Sbenu (at the time a big deal in the korean scene). Then ofc the matchfixing scandal happened and Prime had to disband. All these obstacles Byun overcame though and finally he was crowned the best sc2 player in the world after defeating some noname protoss player in the GSL final. But was it all worth it? Byun wasn't so sure anymore. Lee Shin Hyung finally was open about his love, wasn't that more important? Wasn't that the purpose if life? To be happy with the decisions you choose to make?
The fourth game starts and after merely a few seconds Byun ggs and the victory screen shows Jun Tae Yang as the winner of the match. People are confused again but this time Byun gives the answers, he runs out of the booth jumps down the stage and approaches the SKT terran waiting for him. They both hug, kiss and leave the stadium together.
A few hours later this picture appears on social media:

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The expert couch is speechless and only Total Buiscuit finds some warm words complimenting Byun's choice to go for love instead of money and integrity, „something not everybody in this scene understands.“
Now the final match of the evening is about to start, the all korean PvP of two KT players: Joo Sung Wook who looked out of shape for the last few months vs Kim Dae Yeob who always seems to be underrated by everybody. It is decider of which protoss player still has the chance to win the title this year, the pressure is huge and both players are aware of it.
Apollo talks a bit about the korean scene this year, how much fun he had to watch it and how awesome it still will continue to be next year. „There are people in this community who want to be negative just to be negative, Zest vs Stats will show us how promising the korean scene is and how the skill level increased even though some TL writers seem to think otherwise“
A video is played which shows us the best moments of both players this year, including the following shots:

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Now it is time to start the games though and both players try to cannon rush each other! The game is decided by a silly mistake of Joo, something he maybe would not have made two years ago, who knows. The next games are standard games with oracle harass, adepts, disruptor ping pong, adepts, blink stalkers, adepts and not a single zealot is made. Kim Dae Yeob loses in the end 2:3 and the day is over. Amazing games, amazing storylines and emotions you won't get in any other esports scene. This is why we love the starcraft scene!

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IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 04 2016 19:43 GMT
#1138
TY lost because Nerchio fucking ownt him
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 19:44:19
November 04 2016 19:43 GMT
#1139
On November 05 2016 04:42 Makro wrote:
is there any official link for that warchest thing ?

https://blizzcon.com/en-us/watch#panels

You need a virtual ticket though. This panel is mainly about coop and other things like that though, the multiplayer one is later.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 04 2016 19:43 GMT
#1140
On November 05 2016 04:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Here is how Blizzcon will go down (more or less), it is known:

what the actual flying fuck
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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