EPTSo i am probably too negative about game quality i guess, will give these two a try i guess.
Sill hoping for a great zvz tomorrow, would be funny if a zvz is the best finals this weekend
[GSL] Code S Season 2 2016 - Grand Final - Page 66
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
So i am probably too negative about game quality i guess, will give these two a try i guess. Sill hoping for a great zvz tomorrow, would be funny if a zvz is the best finals this weekend | ||
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Penev
28472 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:34 Vedeynevin wrote: Reading through the thread now, I'm really glad I wasn't participating while watching as it would have made it much less fun. I really enjoyed the finals and this thread is just full of negativity. there was an interesting discussion about new Colossus abilities going on | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:36 Penev wrote: there was an interesting discussion about new Colossus abilities going on Headbutts! Hey Penev, I think if we go through with all those changes, the colossus also needs protective headgear as to not get concussed. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote: You're not helping improve it the few times you're there. I'm starting to enjoy this hate between us, we should stick with it On September 10 2016 20:26 The_Red_Viper wrote: Hey i tried to not mention the quality of the games during the actual final. But after it is done it should be allowed to say that it was extremely mediocre gameplay wise. I totally can understand that going into it you were hyped because of sOs' chance of making it to blizzcon, etc. But these games simply weren't good and i think this is a trend atm. Call it negativity, maybe it is (i mean i could just not menton it i guess) but i think it's a noticeable quality drop. I don't know, maybe it really helps that I am so bad in the game? But I think the games were pretty fun. To be fair, I think most games ever are decided by stupid mistakes, we just sometimes don't see them so blatantly. So yeah, the forgotten range and wrong shades were bad, but I think they were justified as a part of the narrative of an extremely high steaks situation. I think many people here are just being negative because it's the cool thing to do and it makes them sound smart of just because the outlet that exists here attracts those kind of people. I also think it's not the case with you and the few other hardcore fans - but I don't really understand the reasons why you don't enjoy the games either - I guess ignorance can be bliss sometimes. Anyway, I could probably enjoy watching grass grow if it was hyped by Tastosis. To me, this show was a really great entertainment and I was just happy watching it. My life lately is pretty shit so maybe it makes it easier to create high points in it ... | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:34 Vedeynevin wrote: Reading through the thread now, I'm really glad I wasn't participating while watching as it would have made it much less fun. I really enjoyed the finals and this thread is just full of negativity. I actually don't understand this pov. If you enjoy the games you enjoy them, i am not really enjoying it more/less just because other people think otherwise. Just because i am saying the game quality wasn't there (which is a fact imo) doesn't mean that you cannot still like the games, different standard/priorities and stuff. | ||
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Penev
28472 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:37 Elentos wrote: Headbutts! Hey Penev, I think if we go through with all those changes, the colossus also needs protective headgear as to not get concussed. headbutt protective armor good thinking | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2517 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:29 stuchiu wrote: Just cause a fan favourite won, that doesn't mean the finals was good. And it also doesn't mean that the finals were bad. Sc2 has a long history of mediocre finals and we've probably had better and worse finals somwhere in the past but I feel like some users (try to) make todays finals worse than they actually were. Starting off with "I feel no hype whatsoever" and continuing to express a lack of fun throughout this thread is just... I don't know. ByuN showed an incredible amount of skill today, I mean this guy beat sOs 1-4. So at least give him some credit for his performance instead of "blaming" his win exclusively on sOs' mistakes. And if you think about his background (no team, hasn't played in offline tournaments, ex-prime, terran, whatever etc.) you can still have fun with these games. | ||
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Penev
28472 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:37 opisska wrote: I'm starting to enjoy this hate between us, we should stick with it I don't know, maybe it really helps that I am so bad in the game? But I think the games were pretty fun. To be fair, I think most games ever are decided by stupid mistakes, we just sometimes don't see them so blatantly. So yeah, the forgotten range and wrong shades were bad, but I think they were justified as a part of the narrative of an extremely high steaks situation. I think many people here are just being negative because it's the cool thing to do and it makes them sound smart of just because the outlet that exists here attracts those kind of people. I also think it's not the case with you and the few other hardcore fans - but I don't really understand the reasons why you don't enjoy the games either - I guess ignorance can be bliss sometimes. Anyway, I could probably enjoy watching grass grow if it was hyped by Tastosis. To me, this show was a really great entertainment and I was just happy watching it. My life lately is pretty shit so maybe it makes it easier to create high points in it ... you should look in the mirror more often | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15914 Posts
Especially the "I feel no hype whatsoever" at the start turned me off. After the games you can criticise how you want but constantly saying during the games how shit the finals are is pretty depressing. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Vedeynevin
United States431 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:38 The_Red_Viper wrote: I actually don't understand this pov. If you enjoy the games you enjoy them, i am not really enjoying it more/less just because other people think otherwise. Just because i am saying the game quality wasn't there (which is a fact imo) doesn't mean that you cannot still like the games, different standard/priorities and stuff. I enjoy experiencing things with other people. Things are more fun in groups imo. It's more fun when the group is having fun, and less fun when the group is being negative. However since I was in discord with my team, I had a very pleasant experience. Also, I agree that the game quality wasn't the best. However I still enjoyed it because byun just has a fun style. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:37 opisska wrote: I'm starting to enjoy this hate between us, we should stick with it I don't know, maybe it really helps that I am so bad in the game? But I think the games were pretty fun. To be fair, I think most games ever are decided by stupid mistakes, we just sometimes don't see them so blatantly. So yeah, the forgotten range and wrong shades were bad, but I think they were justified as a part of the narrative of an extremely high steaks situation. I think many people here are just being negative because it's the cool thing to do and it makes them sound smart of just because the outlet that exists here attracts those kind of people. I also think it's not the case with you and the few other hardcore fans - but I don't really understand the reasons why you don't enjoy the games either - I guess ignorance can be bliss sometimes. Anyway, I could probably enjoy watching grass grow if it was hyped by Tastosis. To me, this show was a really great entertainment and I was just happy watching it. My life lately is pretty shit so maybe it makes it easier to create high points in it ... I don't think it's about being good at the game, i am not good either :D It's just different priorities i guess. Usually a good game for me has to include that it's back and forth gameplay. Lots of army trades, harass, etc I don't even need the lvl of play to be flawless from both players, as you said usually games are decided by mistakes and sometimes crappy games are the most entertaining. (still usually the games are still close in this case) The only other situation where this isn't needed for me to enjoy it is if i really, really care about who wins the game. A Zest cannon rush (  ) can be very tense for me personally and thus make it enjoyable, other people might not have the same experience there. I guess if a game is just extremely unorthodox it can be enjoyable as well (maybe game one today kinda applies for this, but not really imo) Maybe i am just tired of sc2 in general? It's no secret that i am not the biggest fan of certain design decisions. Could be the case tbh. Tastosis are another topic, i actually think them casting together doesn't work anymore for me. I like them both, but i think the casts are way better when they are split up casting with some other caster. GL in real life btw, hopefully nothing too bad! | ||
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Vedeynevin
United States431 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:50 Phredxor wrote: LR's would be painful is people were only allowed to say positive things. Well that's def not what I want. I just felt reading the thread that there was a lot more negative stuff then positive stuff. Nothing wrong with that, I just don't enjoy it. I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE FUN TOO! | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:53 Vedeynevin wrote: Well that's def not what I want. I just felt reading the thread that there was a lot more negative stuff then positive stuff. Nothing wrong with that, I just don't enjoy it. I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE FUN TOO! I enjoyed sOs losing. Today was a good day. | ||
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Penev
28472 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:48 Charoisaur wrote: I kinda agree with the negative atmosphere thing. Especially the "I feel no hype whatsoever" at the start turned me off. After the games you can criticise how you want but constantly saying during the games how shit the finals are is pretty depressing. Well people should be allowed to post their opinions in these threads of course but I was rather surprised by the not hyped comments in the beginning as well. Even when it's not my favorite players I'm still happy to watch a GSL finals Best thing to do is trying to be positive yourself, try to involve people in jokes, lightheartedness etc | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:55 Penev wrote: Well people should be allowed to post their opinions in these threads of course but I was rather surprised by the not hyped comments in the beginning as well. Even when it's not my favorite players I'm still happy to watch a GSL finals Best thing to do is trying to be positive yourself, try to involve people in jokes, lightheartedness etc I wasn't hyped at all going into these finals, I wasn't even sure why myself. I don't like sOs but I don't mind ByuN at all, and I usually enjoy watching sOs lose. Plus these two should have been able to force great games out of each other. But game wise I consider this one of the worst GSL finals in a long time. I still overall really enjoyed it and I'm glad I didn't decide against watching it (I was seriously considering it yesterday), though I did decide on muting Tastosis in favor of listening to music. The only bad feeling I have left from this GSL final is that ByuN and sOs didn't manage to produce a single game I'd rewatch for my entertainment, only games I'd watch to steal builds or reactions to builds. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 10 2016 20:52 Vedeynevin wrote: I enjoy experiencing things with other people. Things are more fun in groups imo. It's more fun when the group is having fun, and less fun when the group is being negative. 100% valid for every swingers party! | ||
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Elentos
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