EPTWESG 2016 StarCraft 2 announcement - Page 8
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The_Red_Viper
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Elentos
55586 Posts
On December 26 2016 22:37 The_Red_Viper wrote: Haha stephano surely is happy now :D And this is why we need seeding, even bad seeding is better than this. Objection, your honor. Bad seeding wouldn't have made me laugh this much. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On December 26 2016 23:00 Elentos wrote: Objection, your honor. Bad seeding wouldn't have made me laugh this much. I am sure if we wanna laugh we can get that somewhere else though :D | ||
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lechatnoir
392 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Without groups of death, you could skip the group stage completly, because it was just clear who gets out and who not. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On December 27 2016 00:32 Clonester wrote: Well, lets see it this way: Without groups of death, you could skip the group stage completly, because it was just clear who gets out and who not. so obviously the solution is to have not the better players advance to keep it exciting? | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On December 27 2016 00:44 Ej_ wrote: so obviously the solution is to have not the better players advance to keep it exciting? As we only lose 3 better players in the complete groupstage (1 in Group B, 2 in Group C), I can accept that. Better players dont have the universal right to get easy groups, if they want to win, they have to be able to beat everyone anyway. The playoffs wount be worse when, lets say, iA, Major and Harstem get out earlier. There would be still Namshar, XY, Stephano/DeMuslim, Nerchio, Maru, Marinelord, Scarlett, Neeb, Elazer, TY, Showtime and Jim/Kelazhur, that is still a pretty decent lineup for the nationality format. You can now swap, lets say, Stephano/Demuslim with Harstem or Jim/Kelazhur with iAsonu/MajOr, but the overall quality of the playoffs wouldnt be harmed by that, while the quality of the groupstage games gets much bigger with how Group B and C rolled out. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Or you think that you can truly say that some players are better and you wanna have a higher chance of having these players in the later rounds of the tournament because it produces better games later on. While the first solution might be more fair technically it's imo flawed because we have the evidence that in fact not everybody is equal skill wise and having two S class players meet early in a tournament is extremely unfair to those guys (Zest vs Maru comes to mind) | ||
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
On December 26 2016 14:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: any more info on format? just a round robin group stage? I have taken a look at their official chinese website and there is currently no information on how the group matches will play out. I will keep a daily look out and will update when their website is updated. http://www.wesg.com/grandfinal# Group Stage will be from 12-13th Jan and Knock out format from 14 - 15th Jan 2017. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Groups C gonna be close I guess. I can see scarlett/Elazer getting out dunno about the 3rd player. There isn't even PvP potential for me to favour Neeb in | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
(pray Maru and TY dont meet in quater finals or similar) | ||
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bulya
Israel386 Posts
On December 27 2016 03:51 Fango wrote: Do we know anything about the actual cup format? Is it gonna be single elim for the whole thing? (pray Maru and TY dont meet in quater finals or similar) If each of them ends first in his group they cannot meet untill the semis. 3 out of each group go on, the first straight to the quarter finals, the other 2 will play for a spot in the quarter final with others who ends 2nd and 3rd. | ||
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bulya
Israel386 Posts
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On December 27 2016 02:02 Boucot wrote: Group A looks like a WCG group. Group B looks like a WCS group. Hahaha ouch. | ||
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Kafka777
361 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On December 26 2016 14:42 DARKING wrote: lmao who voted A Anyway props for a big roundrobin groupstage, interested in the results for sure | ||
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bulya
Israel386 Posts
On December 27 2016 07:07 Kafka777 wrote: Group B the group of death? It looks most straightforward with Maru, Nerchio and Marinlord advancing. Harstem and Beasty could advance from group A, they would have huge problems in C and D.. In group C anything can happen, even Neeb could drop out. However most likely Neeb, Elazer and Major/Scarlett will advance.Group D - TY, Showtime and Kelazhur are clear favorites. Group A - It would be hard to create a weaker group on purpose, Stephano, Namshar and DeMuslim should take it, if they don't drink too much ;-) I wouldn't say Harstem doesn't have a shoot there. He beats Uthermal quite often, and I guess with Uthermal there in Harstems place there is no 3 players you can say will advance for sure (apart for Maru, and may be Nerchio has an edge). So its either Uthermals TvP isn't that strong, or Harstems PvT is quite strong. With 3 Terrans there Harstem has a fair chance. Maru advances probably Nerchio as well, but I don't know if its Marinlord or Harstem. Beasty can surprise us, but I don't think he will advance (although Demuslim advanced instead of Snute in the qualifier, so who knows). | ||
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