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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
May 08 2016 22:10 GMT
#1541
That was horrible from Hydra I guess Neeb can still do it !
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
May 08 2016 22:10 GMT
#1542
On May 09 2016 07:10 Shield wrote:
That's weird. Hydra and Snute lost on Prion Terraces. Considering that people say zerg has like ~60% win rate on this map.


They both lost to neeb :p
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
May 08 2016 22:11 GMT
#1543
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
May 08 2016 22:11 GMT
#1544
With invader and ulrena left? DREAM IS ALIVE BOYS
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
May 08 2016 22:11 GMT
#1545
On May 09 2016 07:11 Nerchio wrote:
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss


Which maps are better for zerg in zvp? :p
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
May 08 2016 22:12 GMT
#1546
On May 09 2016 07:09 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:05 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:00 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:59 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:50 Bagration wrote:
I come back to SC2 after a long break, decide to tune into some Dreamhack, and I see a hapless foreigner getting beaten by a Korean player. Hopefully Neeb can make this into a close series, otherwise looks like some things never change.


Foreigners will NEVER catch up to the Korea. These players consistently lose to the AM Koreans and would get absolutely dismantled vs the KR guys. I hate this but I've come to accept it


"Foreigners" can't catch up because Koreans have pro teams and coaches. They have practice infrastructure.


Sure, but I have to wonder what the excuse is when it comes to Polt. He's been in the US for 3 years. Was he just so dominant that his out-of-prime form is still miles better than every foreigner?


He's just that good. Remember Polt beating Koreans left and right during the blink era? Remember him beating Hydra who was fresh out of Korea in WCS S1 2015? Polt is weirdly good that I think he would be like innovation if he stayed in KR.

so if polt stayed in korea he'd lose to stork too?
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
May 08 2016 22:12 GMT
#1547
Neeb lost once on prion, won once on prion = map balanced.

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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
May 08 2016 22:12 GMT
#1548
On May 09 2016 07:11 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:11 Nerchio wrote:
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss


Which maps are better for zerg in zvp? :p

I am not a fan of prion as Z and I think many others aren't as well
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 08 2016 22:12 GMT
#1549
On May 09 2016 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:09 swissman777 wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:05 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:00 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:59 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:50 Bagration wrote:
I come back to SC2 after a long break, decide to tune into some Dreamhack, and I see a hapless foreigner getting beaten by a Korean player. Hopefully Neeb can make this into a close series, otherwise looks like some things never change.


Foreigners will NEVER catch up to the Korea. These players consistently lose to the AM Koreans and would get absolutely dismantled vs the KR guys. I hate this but I've come to accept it


"Foreigners" can't catch up because Koreans have pro teams and coaches. They have practice infrastructure.


Sure, but I have to wonder what the excuse is when it comes to Polt. He's been in the US for 3 years. Was he just so dominant that his out-of-prime form is still miles better than every foreigner?


He's just that good. Remember Polt beating Koreans left and right during the blink era? Remember him beating Hydra who was fresh out of Korea in WCS S1 2015? Polt is weirdly good that I think he would be like innovation if he stayed in KR.

so if polt stayed in korea he'd lose to stork too?

Those are the heights everyone is aiming for. Being allowed to lose to Stork.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-08 22:13:22
May 08 2016 22:12 GMT
#1550
On May 09 2016 07:12 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:11 ArtyK wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:11 Nerchio wrote:
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss


Which maps are better for zerg in zvp? :p

I am not a fan of prion as Z and I think many others aren't as well


Genuine question here

Whos a fan of prion anyway? :p
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
May 08 2016 22:13 GMT
#1551
On May 09 2016 07:11 ArtyK wrote:
With invader and ulrena left? DREAM IS ALIVE BOYS

yeah ^^
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 08 2016 22:13 GMT
#1552
On May 09 2016 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:09 swissman777 wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:05 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:00 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:59 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:50 Bagration wrote:
I come back to SC2 after a long break, decide to tune into some Dreamhack, and I see a hapless foreigner getting beaten by a Korean player. Hopefully Neeb can make this into a close series, otherwise looks like some things never change.


Foreigners will NEVER catch up to the Korea. These players consistently lose to the AM Koreans and would get absolutely dismantled vs the KR guys. I hate this but I've come to accept it


"Foreigners" can't catch up because Koreans have pro teams and coaches. They have practice infrastructure.


Sure, but I have to wonder what the excuse is when it comes to Polt. He's been in the US for 3 years. Was he just so dominant that his out-of-prime form is still miles better than every foreigner?


He's just that good. Remember Polt beating Koreans left and right during the blink era? Remember him beating Hydra who was fresh out of Korea in WCS S1 2015? Polt is weirdly good that I think he would be like innovation if he stayed in KR.

so if polt stayed in korea he'd lose to stork too?

probalby but he could have also won the gsl
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 08 2016 22:13 GMT
#1553
On May 09 2016 07:11 Nerchio wrote:
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss

godchio has spoken, move on guys
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 08 2016 22:13 GMT
#1554
On May 09 2016 07:13 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:11 Nerchio wrote:
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss

godchio has spoken, move on guys

the guy who couldn't qualify over Guru?
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 08 2016 22:13 GMT
#1555
On May 09 2016 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:09 swissman777 wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:05 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:00 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:59 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:50 Bagration wrote:
I come back to SC2 after a long break, decide to tune into some Dreamhack, and I see a hapless foreigner getting beaten by a Korean player. Hopefully Neeb can make this into a close series, otherwise looks like some things never change.


Foreigners will NEVER catch up to the Korea. These players consistently lose to the AM Koreans and would get absolutely dismantled vs the KR guys. I hate this but I've come to accept it


"Foreigners" can't catch up because Koreans have pro teams and coaches. They have practice infrastructure.


Sure, but I have to wonder what the excuse is when it comes to Polt. He's been in the US for 3 years. Was he just so dominant that his out-of-prime form is still miles better than every foreigner?


He's just that good. Remember Polt beating Koreans left and right during the blink era? Remember him beating Hydra who was fresh out of Korea in WCS S1 2015? Polt is weirdly good that I think he would be like innovation if he stayed in KR.

so if polt stayed in korea he'd lose to stork too?

Unless he joins samsung and embrace stork's ACE decision.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 08 2016 22:14 GMT
#1556
On May 09 2016 07:13 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:11 Nerchio wrote:
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss

godchio has spoken, move on guys


I'd rather see Zest vs top zerg on Prion Terraces before I believe Nerchio.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
May 08 2016 22:14 GMT
#1557
On May 09 2016 07:13 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:13 Makro wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:11 Nerchio wrote:
I don't think prion terraces favour zerg so much, you only have 1 timing where you can use it and its not that strong anymore, if protoss survives that then prion is better for protoss

godchio has spoken, move on guys

the guy who couldn't qualify over Guru?


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Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 08 2016 22:14 GMT
#1558
On May 09 2016 07:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:09 swissman777 wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:05 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:00 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:59 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:50 Bagration wrote:
I come back to SC2 after a long break, decide to tune into some Dreamhack, and I see a hapless foreigner getting beaten by a Korean player. Hopefully Neeb can make this into a close series, otherwise looks like some things never change.


Foreigners will NEVER catch up to the Korea. These players consistently lose to the AM Koreans and would get absolutely dismantled vs the KR guys. I hate this but I've come to accept it


"Foreigners" can't catch up because Koreans have pro teams and coaches. They have practice infrastructure.


Sure, but I have to wonder what the excuse is when it comes to Polt. He's been in the US for 3 years. Was he just so dominant that his out-of-prime form is still miles better than every foreigner?


He's just that good. Remember Polt beating Koreans left and right during the blink era? Remember him beating Hydra who was fresh out of Korea in WCS S1 2015? Polt is weirdly good that I think he would be like innovation if he stayed in KR.

so if polt stayed in korea he'd lose to stork too?

probalby but he could have also won the gsl

Maybe, but his mechanics are weak, always have been. I think the highest tier of Korean Zergs would have ended up bullying him pretty hard.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
May 08 2016 22:16 GMT
#1559
On May 09 2016 07:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:09 swissman777 wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:05 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:00 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:59 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:50 Bagration wrote:
I come back to SC2 after a long break, decide to tune into some Dreamhack, and I see a hapless foreigner getting beaten by a Korean player. Hopefully Neeb can make this into a close series, otherwise looks like some things never change.


Foreigners will NEVER catch up to the Korea. These players consistently lose to the AM Koreans and would get absolutely dismantled vs the KR guys. I hate this but I've come to accept it


"Foreigners" can't catch up because Koreans have pro teams and coaches. They have practice infrastructure.


Sure, but I have to wonder what the excuse is when it comes to Polt. He's been in the US for 3 years. Was he just so dominant that his out-of-prime form is still miles better than every foreigner?


He's just that good. Remember Polt beating Koreans left and right during the blink era? Remember him beating Hydra who was fresh out of Korea in WCS S1 2015? Polt is weirdly good that I think he would be like innovation if he stayed in KR.

so if polt stayed in korea he'd lose to stork too?

probalby but he could have also won the gsl


Hypothesis: Koreans are better because they are playing more from a younger age, because gameing in PC bang is in the culture.
There could be an analogy with US basket ball players.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 08 2016 22:16 GMT
#1560
On May 09 2016 07:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 07:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:09 swissman777 wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:05 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 07:00 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:59 kaykoose wrote:
On May 09 2016 06:50 Bagration wrote:
I come back to SC2 after a long break, decide to tune into some Dreamhack, and I see a hapless foreigner getting beaten by a Korean player. Hopefully Neeb can make this into a close series, otherwise looks like some things never change.


Foreigners will NEVER catch up to the Korea. These players consistently lose to the AM Koreans and would get absolutely dismantled vs the KR guys. I hate this but I've come to accept it


"Foreigners" can't catch up because Koreans have pro teams and coaches. They have practice infrastructure.


Sure, but I have to wonder what the excuse is when it comes to Polt. He's been in the US for 3 years. Was he just so dominant that his out-of-prime form is still miles better than every foreigner?


He's just that good. Remember Polt beating Koreans left and right during the blink era? Remember him beating Hydra who was fresh out of Korea in WCS S1 2015? Polt is weirdly good that I think he would be like innovation if he stayed in KR.

so if polt stayed in korea he'd lose to stork too?

probalby but he could have also won the gsl

Maybe, but his mechanics are weak, always have been. I think the highest tier of Korean Zergs would have ended up bullying him pretty hard.

that's the sacrifice you make, he was basically maru's parallel but he had to give up the mechanics in order to be normal sized
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