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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 13:24:43
March 14 2016 13:22 GMT
#241
On March 14 2016 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:19 opisska wrote:
The fuck happened here

SKT fielded a B-team. The B-est of B-teams.

The B-est InnoBation ...

Actually, it was not bad ....

1. It seems, sOs is serious with the carriers. It was not just his fun before ...
2. Maru was better than Inno.
3. Impact was quite good and the game with Rogue was for a long time quite equal, but the last switch of Rogue to mutas meant the victory.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 14 2016 13:23 GMT
#242
On March 14 2016 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:19 opisska wrote:
The fuck happened here

SKT fielded a B-team. The B-est of B-teams.


OK, but what about B-ogus? As much as I love shitting on him, he was doing ... quite fine until today.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 13:25:01
March 14 2016 13:23 GMT
#243
On March 14 2016 22:22 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:20 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:19 opisska wrote:
The fuck happened here

SKT fielded a B-team. The B-est of B-teams.

The B-est InnoBation

Well that's just because even if they tried SKT couldn't field a lineup without a world class player this year.

On March 14 2016 22:23 opisska wrote:
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On March 14 2016 22:20 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:19 opisska wrote:
The fuck happened here

SKT fielded a B-team. The B-est of B-teams.


OK, but what about B-ogus? As much as I love shitting on him, he was doing ... quite fine until today.

INnoVation losing to Maru really shouldn't surprise anyone, don't you think?
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 14 2016 13:50 GMT
#244
I hope JAGW finally win a round. All those 2nd places in 2015 was frustrating. I'm worried though. They rely on Maru too much and SKT have 2 zergs that can snipe him.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
March 14 2016 13:54 GMT
#245
On March 14 2016 22:50 royalroadweed wrote:
I hope JAGW finally win a round. All those 2nd places in 2015 was frustrating. I'm worried though. They rely on Maru too much and SKT have 2 zergs that can snipe him.

It's not 2015 anymore, I'm not sure you can still snipe him with Zergs as easily. Then again Jin Air really shouldn't even think about SKT yet.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
March 14 2016 13:56 GMT
#246
WTF both telecom teams lost I could not watch proleague today, how did this happen lol?
I was pretty sure they were going to win, 0/2 LB
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 14:00:43
March 14 2016 14:00 GMT
#247
On March 14 2016 22:56 Isualin wrote:
WTF both telecom teams lost I could not watch proleague today, how did this happen lol?
I was pretty sure they were going to win, 0/2 LB

SKT fielded one of the worst possible lineups they could muster. Stats and TY played like garbage (SpeeD got kinda unlucky).
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 14 2016 14:38 GMT
#248
Is iloveoov just trying to feel out his younger players?
kiss kiss fall in love
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
March 14 2016 14:41 GMT
#249
Only thing that makes me feel better about today is KT having a better score than SKT.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44301 Posts
March 14 2016 14:54 GMT
#250
On March 14 2016 23:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Is iloveoov just trying to feel out his younger players?


I think it's brilliant of oov, because SKT is in first anyway, younger players get to play, and with this win for Jin Air, they take second and drop KT down to third place: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_Proleague/Round_1
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
March 14 2016 15:06 GMT
#251
On March 14 2016 23:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 23:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Is iloveoov just trying to feel out his younger players?

and with this win for Jin Air, they take second and drop KT down to third place: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_Proleague/Round_1

No that 2nd part was clearly a complete accident. After all Proleague is a fair competition.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 14 2016 15:17 GMT
#252
Please remind me of this day next time I get into an argument with people who say that round-robin is a good system
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
March 14 2016 15:24 GMT
#253
Actually it would have been smarter from oov to field a lineup to 3-0 Jin Air so that both Samsung and Afreeca make the playoffs. Much easier pickings.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 14 2016 15:27 GMT
#254
On March 15 2016 00:24 Elentos wrote:
Actually it would have been smarter from oov to field a lineup to 3-0 Jin Air so that both Samsung and Afreeca make the playoffs. Much easier pickings.


No. They need to maximize KT's troubles, because we were the only only ones that put a good fight against their A team. Thus they helped JinAir get 2nd place and it was super effective!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 15:33:18
March 14 2016 15:32 GMT
#255
On March 15 2016 00:27 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2016 00:24 Elentos wrote:
Actually it would have been smarter from oov to field a lineup to 3-0 Jin Air so that both Samsung and Afreeca make the playoffs. Much easier pickings.


No. They need to maximize KT's troubles, because we were the only only ones that put a good fight against their A team. Thus they helped JinAir get 2nd place and it was super effective!

If Jin Air gets to the finals they're probably in form and SKT just shot themselves in the knee for no good reason. Making KT play an extra match in itself doesn't accomplish that much either because there's no guarantee KT doesn't just sweep the extra match.

Also Silvana please, you're making it sound like SKT purposely made it easier for Jin Air to win, just to screw over another team, in the process also screwing over unrelated teams Afreeca and Samsung. Preposterous! Fair competition, every match is important!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 14 2016 15:37 GMT
#256
On March 15 2016 00:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2016 00:27 Silvana wrote:
On March 15 2016 00:24 Elentos wrote:
Actually it would have been smarter from oov to field a lineup to 3-0 Jin Air so that both Samsung and Afreeca make the playoffs. Much easier pickings.


No. They need to maximize KT's troubles, because we were the only only ones that put a good fight against their A team. Thus they helped JinAir get 2nd place and it was super effective!

If Jin Air gets to the finals they're probably in form and SKT just shot themselves in the knee for no good reason. Making KT play an extra match in itself doesn't accomplish that much either because there's no guarantee KT doesn't just sweep the extra match.

Also Silvana please, you're making it sound like SKT purposely made it easier for Jin Air to win, just to screw over another team, in the process also screwing over unrelated teams Afreeca and Samsung. Preposterous! Fair competition, every match is important!


But not even I think that! they just took the opportunity to give the B team some experience. They did that last year too I think, so there is no sure reason to assume they did it to screw KT. Plus, how would they know we would lose against CJ?

It's fun to say the telecoms pull this kind of moves to screw each other, and banter the rival team's fans as "dirty" etc... But it's just that, friendly banter

(But that still doesn't mean I have respect for you StinkyKT fans!)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 14 2016 15:44 GMT
#257
Probably should have looked at the lineup before liquibetting
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 16:01:36
March 14 2016 15:45 GMT
#258
On March 15 2016 00:37 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2016 00:32 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2016 00:27 Silvana wrote:
On March 15 2016 00:24 Elentos wrote:
Actually it would have been smarter from oov to field a lineup to 3-0 Jin Air so that both Samsung and Afreeca make the playoffs. Much easier pickings.


No. They need to maximize KT's troubles, because we were the only only ones that put a good fight against their A team. Thus they helped JinAir get 2nd place and it was super effective!

If Jin Air gets to the finals they're probably in form and SKT just shot themselves in the knee for no good reason. Making KT play an extra match in itself doesn't accomplish that much either because there's no guarantee KT doesn't just sweep the extra match.

Also Silvana please, you're making it sound like SKT purposely made it easier for Jin Air to win, just to screw over another team, in the process also screwing over unrelated teams Afreeca and Samsung. Preposterous! Fair competition, every match is important!


But not even I think that! they just took the opportunity to give the B team some experience. They did that last year too I think, so there is no sure reason to assume they did it to screw KT. Plus, how would they know we would lose against CJ?

I think they just always believe KT will lose. I mean, a week or so after KT beat Jin Air, Inno said Jin Air is the 2nd best team. So clearly they got some faith.

Although it's not really that common to field such a B-team even if you want to give players a chance. Like generally you field 1 B-teamer and 3 A-teamers, maybe 2-2, but not 3-1. They never went this extreme last year, so I was a bit surprised. Especially since oov said he wanted to win every match.

And at any rate they fucked over Samsung/Afreeca (whoever doesn't make playoffs if Afreeca wins tomorrow) more than KT.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 14 2016 16:01 GMT
#259
On March 15 2016 00:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2016 00:27 Silvana wrote:
On March 15 2016 00:24 Elentos wrote:
Actually it would have been smarter from oov to field a lineup to 3-0 Jin Air so that both Samsung and Afreeca make the playoffs. Much easier pickings.


No. They need to maximize KT's troubles, because we were the only only ones that put a good fight against their A team. Thus they helped JinAir get 2nd place and it was super effective!

If Jin Air gets to the finals they're probably in form and SKT just shot themselves in the knee for no good reason. Making KT play an extra match in itself doesn't accomplish that much either because there's no guarantee KT doesn't just sweep the extra match.

Also Silvana please, you're making it sound like SKT purposely made it easier for Jin Air to win, just to screw over another team, in the process also screwing over unrelated teams Afreeca and Samsung. Preposterous! Fair competition, every match is important!

JAGW is the kong team, their 2nd place is the place where they belong
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55517 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 16:30:14
March 14 2016 16:03 GMT
#260
On March 15 2016 01:01 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2016 00:32 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2016 00:27 Silvana wrote:
On March 15 2016 00:24 Elentos wrote:
Actually it would have been smarter from oov to field a lineup to 3-0 Jin Air so that both Samsung and Afreeca make the playoffs. Much easier pickings.


No. They need to maximize KT's troubles, because we were the only only ones that put a good fight against their A team. Thus they helped JinAir get 2nd place and it was super effective!

If Jin Air gets to the finals they're probably in form and SKT just shot themselves in the knee for no good reason. Making KT play an extra match in itself doesn't accomplish that much either because there's no guarantee KT doesn't just sweep the extra match.

Also Silvana please, you're making it sound like SKT purposely made it easier for Jin Air to win, just to screw over another team, in the process also screwing over unrelated teams Afreeca and Samsung. Preposterous! Fair competition, every match is important!

JAGW is the kong team, their 2nd place is the place where they belong

For how competent they are in konging Proleague, they are strangely inept at konging in individual tournaments
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