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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 14 2016 12:51 GMT
#181
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 14 2016 13:01 GMT
#182
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 14 2016 13:12 GMT
#183
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 14 2016 13:17 GMT
#184
On March 14 2016 22:12 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!

God you're pessimistic.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 14 2016 13:19 GMT
#185
On March 14 2016 22:12 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!


Just bow down to your green overlords!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 14 2016 13:22 GMT
#186
On March 14 2016 22:19 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:12 Silvana wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!


Just bow down to your green overlords!

Jin Air just got lucky they got SKT on the matchday SKT didn't give a shit anymore, otherwise they'd have been in 5th.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 14 2016 13:22 GMT
#187
Yes I am. And I quite often forget to keep it to myself. Sorry guys! Take it as a rant because I'm angry at our underperformance and at how lucky JinAir got to face SKT in the last week where they field a joke of a lineup.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 13:40:59
March 14 2016 13:40 GMT
#188
On March 14 2016 22:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:19 Musicus wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:12 Silvana wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!


Just bow down to your green overlords!

Jin Air just got lucky they got SKT on the matchday SKT didn't give a shit anymore, otherwise they'd have been in 5th.


No way they would've been 5th. 4th at least in the worst case. Against the A-team it would've gone to the ace match, 1-3 loss worst case. Still enough to make the playoffs.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 13:54:36
March 14 2016 13:47 GMT
#189
On March 14 2016 22:40 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:19 Musicus wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:12 Silvana wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!


Just bow down to your green overlords!

Jin Air just got lucky they got SKT on the matchday SKT didn't give a shit anymore, otherwise they'd have been in 5th.


No way they would've been 5th. 4th at least in the worst case. Against the A-team it would've gone to the ace match, 1-3 loss worst case. Still enough to make the playoffs.

Oh right I forgot, SKT never wins 3-0 and Proleague doesn't play tiebreaker matches anymore.

I don't even know how Jin Air got this many wins considering how crappy they were playing like 3 weeks in. All of them one-sided, too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 13:51:48
March 14 2016 13:50 GMT
#190
TY losing to Bunny was surprising. Bunny might be legit Code S.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 13:55:38
March 14 2016 13:55 GMT
#191
On March 14 2016 22:50 royalroadweed wrote:
TY losing to Bunny was surprising. Bunny might be legit Code S.

He probably is, but TY's performance today was legit not Code S. Atrocious simcity, terrible engagements, too greedy, didn't even lift his 3rd CC as tanks were killing it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 14 2016 14:08 GMT
#192
On March 14 2016 22:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:40 Musicus wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:19 Musicus wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:12 Silvana wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!


Just bow down to your green overlords!

Jin Air just got lucky they got SKT on the matchday SKT didn't give a shit anymore, otherwise they'd have been in 5th.


No way they would've been 5th. 4th at least in the worst case. Against the A-team it would've gone to the ace match, 1-3 loss worst case. Still enough to make the playoffs.

Oh right I forgot, SKT never wins 3-0 and Proleague doesn't play tiebreaker matches anymore.

I don't even know how Jin Air got this many wins considering how crappy they were playing like 3 weeks in. All of them one-sided, too.


People way overestimated Jin Air's "slump". Sure Rogue sucked for a while and the loss vs Afreeca was bad. But aside from that they did really well, losing vs KT is no shame, they were super good on that day.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 14:24:19
March 14 2016 14:21 GMT
#193
On March 14 2016 23:08 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 22:47 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:40 Musicus wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:19 Musicus wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:12 Silvana wrote:
On March 14 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2016 21:51 Silvana wrote:
Goddammit we lost the 2nd place seed!!! @$^*$@!&$/(@/$# Now we have less points and will have to play an extra match against a fully prepared JAGW.

All this could mean a net loss of 20 points. *sigh*

If we win the round it's not that bad. Also this means you get an extra day of looking at Zest, isn't that a net positive?


The points table looked really close last year. The 10 points we lost today is a lot!

If we had 2nd place, we would get an unprepared JinAir as first match which would be very winnable; and then a good shot against SKT because we are no exhausted nor exposed previously.

But what do we get now? An extra match which we will win most surely, but we will have to prepare for. That means some exposed builds and no time to prepare for JinAir, but the worst part is that JinAir will be prepared that I think is our death sentence.

I don't think we're gonna make it to the finals. This means 2 matches total, just as if we got 2nd place... so no extra day of looking at Zest. It's a net negative!


Just bow down to your green overlords!

Jin Air just got lucky they got SKT on the matchday SKT didn't give a shit anymore, otherwise they'd have been in 5th.


No way they would've been 5th. 4th at least in the worst case. Against the A-team it would've gone to the ace match, 1-3 loss worst case. Still enough to make the playoffs.

Oh right I forgot, SKT never wins 3-0 and Proleague doesn't play tiebreaker matches anymore.

I don't even know how Jin Air got this many wins considering how crappy they were playing like 3 weeks in. All of them one-sided, too.


People way overestimated Jin Air's "slump". Sure Rogue sucked for a while and the loss vs Afreeca was bad. But aside from that they did really well, losing vs KT is no shame, they were super good on that day.

Rogue sucked real bad for a bit and sOs took a few weeks to get a win aswell(also I still believe better players would have beaten him this week and last week). Not to mention Creator, Cure and Trap combined got as many wins as Rogue and more losses.

It really looks weird that Jin Air only has 1 player with an actually good record and still makes the playoffs in 2nd place. But then I guess that's the prize you have to pay as a KT fan. Leenock, Losira, jjakji and SpeeD are at a combined 0-6. Our 4th player is close to being as bad as a forfeit.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 14 2016 16:08 GMT
#194
KT and the problem of team depth :/
Well we still can make it, Zest and TY are both top 5 in the world. No other team has that setup
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 14 2016 16:23 GMT
#195
On March 15 2016 01:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
KT and the problem of team depth :/
Well we still can make it, Zest and TY are both top 5 in the world. No other team has that setup

I think SpeeD just needs more practice and experience, he could become the 4th player eventually. His performance today was solid (he got a bit unlucky with ByuL going for a nydus) and he does many things right in general. Losira and Leenock have been much more disappointing to me (and nobody expected much out of jjakji).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 14 2016 16:28 GMT
#196
Maybe we need to poach Choya too???
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
March 14 2016 16:31 GMT
#197
I actually agree with Silvana tbh. We should have at least take the game to Ace Match. We should be able to defeat CJ but noooo, we have to lose 3-1 and lose our 2nd seed place. Man if JinAir wins against KT I'm going to cry
(before you're going to ask, I believe in KT vs SKT rivalry more than JA vs KT or JA vs SKT)
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 16:35:08
March 14 2016 16:32 GMT
#198
On March 15 2016 01:28 Silvana wrote:
Maybe we need to poach Choya too???

We need to sit all 3 of our Terrans down and force them to play until they stop forgetting depots.

On March 15 2016 01:31 NinjaToss wrote:
I actually agree with Silvana tbh. We should have at least take the game to Ace Match. We should be able to defeat CJ but noooo, we have to lose 3-1 and lose our 2nd seed place. Man if JinAir wins against KT I'm going to cry
(before you're going to ask, I believe in KT vs SKT rivalry more than JA vs KT or JA vs SKT)

But if you like both teams equally, will you also cry if JA loses?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ellipsesdi
Profile Joined March 2016
7 Posts
March 14 2016 17:01 GMT
#199
Anyone feel that maybe, just maybe, TY intentionally lost that game? It's bizarre that TY went mass reapers but didn't use them for several minutes. I may just be being paranoid, but ...

User was warned for this post
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 17:06:08
March 14 2016 17:02 GMT
#200
On March 15 2016 02:01 Ellipsesdi wrote:
Anyone feel that maybe, just maybe, TY intentionally lost that game?

Don't. Even. Fucking. Start.

And I'd assume he had the reapers at home because he was hoping Bunny would attempt to get up the ramp with hellions, in which case he'd have gotten caught and TY could have actually done damage to Bunny.
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