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[SPL] Round 1 2016 - JAGW vs Samsung Galaxy - Page 17

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
March 08 2016 11:46 GMT
#321
The problem was that Journey had no clue what sOs was doing for the longest time. If he knew faster and his extra starports come down quicker he can shut him down easy.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 08 2016 11:50 GMT
#322
Skytoss never strong on it own.Even pure marine will destroy any stargate unit.....
Ground AOE support is the reason why that comp so hard to beat.
The model is so big, it cover HT so well.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 11:57:57
March 08 2016 11:57 GMT
#323
sOs was just enjoying this game. And so was I :-)
Poor journey. Of course, against any good terran, sOs could not use this style as he would be dead before any such army would be done. Good example was I think in the game against Ryung in the Kings tournament.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12924 Posts
March 08 2016 11:57 GMT
#324
Maybe a ghost drop behind the templars when he had enough marines would have allowed him to trade efficiently.
WriterMaru
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 08 2016 11:59 GMT
#325
On March 08 2016 20:57 Diabolique wrote:
sOs was just enjoying this game. And so was I :-)
Poor journey. Of course, against any good terran, sOs could not use this style as he would be dead before any such army would be done. Good example was I think in the game against Ryung in the Kings tournament.

He used similar build vs. jjakji at IEM I think. IT worked because jjakji scouted it too late. As someone mentioned earlier, Journey scouted it too late.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 08 2016 12:06 GMT
#326
On March 08 2016 20:59 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 20:57 Diabolique wrote:
sOs was just enjoying this game. And so was I :-)
Poor journey. Of course, against any good terran, sOs could not use this style as he would be dead before any such army would be done. Good example was I think in the game against Ryung in the Kings tournament.

He used similar build vs. jjakji at IEM I think. IT worked because jjakji scouted it too late. As someone mentioned earlier, Journey scouted it too late.

No no no ... tha jjakji game was different, that was an excellent choice, one of my favorite games ... but that was no tempests, it was just the unexpected use of carriers against bio. And it was in a completely different meta. But he did something very similar against Ryung in Kings of Starcraft, it was a good game, sOs won at the end, but it was not at all one sided as Ryung used the mobility and harrass and kept it for a loooong time very close.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9436 Posts
March 08 2016 12:08 GMT
#327
On March 08 2016 20:46 Elentos wrote:
The problem was that Journey had no clue what sOs was doing for the longest time. If he knew faster and his extra starports come down quicker he can shut him down easy.


He also just spewed while attacking the 4th after he found out.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
March 08 2016 12:26 GMT
#328
On March 08 2016 21:08 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 20:46 Elentos wrote:
The problem was that Journey had no clue what sOs was doing for the longest time. If he knew faster and his extra starports come down quicker he can shut him down easy.


He also just spewed while attacking the 4th after he found out.

His exection was rather poor in general I'd say. Like, all his drops were ineffectual and toward the end you could clearly see one in sOs's main was being F2'd.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 08 2016 12:28 GMT
#329
On March 08 2016 21:06 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 20:59 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 08 2016 20:57 Diabolique wrote:
sOs was just enjoying this game. And so was I :-)
Poor journey. Of course, against any good terran, sOs could not use this style as he would be dead before any such army would be done. Good example was I think in the game against Ryung in the Kings tournament.

He used similar build vs. jjakji at IEM I think. IT worked because jjakji scouted it too late. As someone mentioned earlier, Journey scouted it too late.

No no no ... tha jjakji game was different, that was an excellent choice, one of my favorite games ... but that was no tempests, it was just the unexpected use of carriers against bio. And it was in a completely different meta. But he did something very similar against Ryung in Kings of Starcraft, it was a good game, sOs won at the end, but it was not at all one sided as Ryung used the mobility and harrass and kept it for a loooong time very close.

Doesn't matter that there were no tempests, the game was over when jjakji attacked into storm/interceptors and died. If you let Protoss player to build one of the strongest units and don't punish him then it's really late to cry.
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egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1200 Posts
March 08 2016 14:25 GMT
#330
Glad to see Jin Air scoring 3-0 victory and sOs winning in PL and getting MVP - hopefully team's form is on a rise

Ok, so looking at current table there are 3 teams fighting for last 2 spots:
JAGW 3-2 10-8
Samsung 3-3 12-12
Afreeca 2-3 8-10

there is possibility of ties between all 3 teams. My question is how are ties resolved?
And as a side question which results of match between JAGW and SKT guarantee Jin Air a playoffs spot?
sOs TY PartinG
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 08 2016 14:26 GMT
#331
Yep. Changed flair for a good reason.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 14:36:14
March 08 2016 14:32 GMT
#332
On March 08 2016 23:25 egrimm wrote:
Glad to see Jin Air scoring 3-0 victory and sOs winning in PL and getting MVP - hopefully team's form is on a rise

Ok, so looking at current table there are 3 teams fighting for last 2 spots:
JAGW 3-2 10-8
Samsung 3-3 12-12
Afreeca 2-3 8-10

there is possibility of ties between all 3 teams. My question is how are ties resolved?
And as a side question which results of match between JAGW and SKT guarantee Jin Air a playoffs spot?

Ties will probably be resolved by head-to-head score (the alternative being a tie breaker match, but they didn't have those last year).

If JAGW wins at 2 maps against SKT they're 100% through. If they win 1 it depends on the tie breaker rules and Afreeca's result.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3678 Posts
March 08 2016 14:38 GMT
#333
On March 08 2016 23:25 egrimm wrote:
And as a side question which results of match between JAGW and SKT guarantee Jin Air a playoffs spot?


...if I did my arithmetics correctly:
...if jinair win, they are qualified.
...if freecs win 3-0, jinair cannot lose.
...if freecs win 3-1, jinair can lose but not worse than 2-3.
...if freecs win 3-2, jinair can lose but not worse than 1-3.
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 14:43:16
March 08 2016 14:41 GMT
#334
On March 08 2016 23:38 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 23:25 egrimm wrote:
And as a side question which results of match between JAGW and SKT guarantee Jin Air a playoffs spot?


...if I did my arithmetics correctly:
...if jinair win, they are qualified.
...if freecs win 3-0, jinair cannot lose.
...if freecs win 3-1, jinair can lose but not worse than 2-3.
...if freecs win 3-2, jinair can lose but not worse than 1-3.

You ignored Samsung. Jin Air passed Samsung. That means all they have to do is not lose hard enough for both Samsung and Afreeca to pass them.

E.g. if Freecs win 3-0 and Jin Air loses 2-3 Samsung is 5th.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1200 Posts
March 08 2016 14:49 GMT
#335
Thanks guys!
Glad to hear that Jin Air do not have win against SKT to advance as it would be hard as hell with SKT current form
2-3 and 1-3 is certainly doable
sOs TY PartinG
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3678 Posts
March 08 2016 14:50 GMT
#336
On March 08 2016 23:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 23:38 CynicalDeath wrote:
On March 08 2016 23:25 egrimm wrote:
And as a side question which results of match between JAGW and SKT guarantee Jin Air a playoffs spot?


...if I did my arithmetics correctly:
...if jinair win, they are qualified.
...if freecs win 3-0, jinair cannot lose.
...if freecs win 3-1, jinair can lose but not worse than 2-3.
...if freecs win 3-2, jinair can lose but not worse than 1-3.

You ignored Samsung. Jin Air passed Samsung. That means all they have to do is not lose hard enough for both Samsung and Afreeca to pass them.

E.g. if Freecs win 3-0 and Jin Air loses 2-3 Samsung is 5th.

...yes, you're right, I forgot Samsung...
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2016 15:27 GMT
#337
Ouch i really thought Samsung has a good chance -.-
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slit
Profile Joined March 2013
Spain212 Posts
March 08 2016 16:01 GMT
#338
On March 08 2016 20:39 CruelZeratul wrote:
I my mind capital ships should be the surpreme lategame so an army without these should always lose to a massive army of capital ships.


Problem is T doesn't have any of these. And no, BCs with their flimsy armor don't count (they lose 3/3 to carriers and tempests 3/3/3 all day long)
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 08 2016 16:54 GMT
#339
As expected
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37087 Posts
March 08 2016 18:41 GMT
#340
Wow... Samsung got absolutely manhandled by Jin Air... Oo;;
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