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United States97277 Posts
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Man fuck this, what a shitty end to the series.
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what a shitty way for this series to end..
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On March 04 2016 23:39 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 23:33 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2016 23:30 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2016 23:25 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On March 04 2016 23:23 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2016 23:21 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2016 23:17 Binomyo wrote:On March 04 2016 23:10 Schelim wrote:On March 04 2016 23:09 Musicus wrote:
It's 3 ZvZs today, get hyped! said noone ever I play zerg but I have to admit that the only matches that was won against a Z was Polt-Lambo and Huk-PiG. Zergs presence is more and more predominant as the round goes. Let's look at every zerg win. Nerchio vs ShoWTimE : Very tight set, both players play very well, extremely tense until the last second. Lilbow vs SortOf : Lilbow gets advantages, throws it by going all-in with blink stalkers time and time again. MajOr vs Snute : Snute outplayed MajOr by holding him off, Snute was the favorite, no big deal. Hydra vs Happy : Hydra heavy favorite, wins in a close set. FireCake vs Has : FireCake is the definite favorite, plays smart and tactically against a cheesy player. MarineLorD vs viOLet : Tense, tight set, MarineLorD loses based on his own mistakes and his own choices, not imba. MaSa vs Snute : Snute is the heavy favorite. So, really, the only 'upsets' were MarineLorD vs viOLet and Lilbow vs SortOf, both of which involved the non-zerg making a few key mistakes while the zerg played well and largely out-performed the other race. I don't think zerg is necessarily imba, I just think the zergs have proven to be the best players in this tournament. Problem with that logic is that if zerg were to be the strongest race it would be easier to be considered "favorite" Except all the players he named as favorites would still have been considered favorites in HotS. EDIT: Darn, Soularion sniped me. When Behind, Dark Shrine. So what? By that HotS logic Lilbow would never lose to SortOf unless zerg super strong or something. But it's not HotS so favorite on HotS doesn't translate well to favorite on LotV. The only thing that would help with the ZvZ would be to have a korean protoss. Yeah, but then you look at the actual games- MaSa and MajOr vs Snute are Snute consistently out-playing, Has vs FireCake is FireCake outplaying, and presumably Happy vs Hydra is Hydra outplaying (although I didn't watch the matches). SortOf vs Lilbow is Lilbow outplaying, only to end up going far too aggressive by going into blink all-in time after time. Does this make sense with his playstyle? Yes. Does this make sense with the meta? Yes. What about this screams 'zerg OP' to you, and how could Blizz nerf zerg without it tilting in the other direction? Snute outplaying MajOr really? xD MajOr beat himself everytime by not having the full package, plus the pause helped Snute a lot especially since MajOr planned to win with multitask. I don't argue zerg OP I don't care at all but your logic is flawed, you can't prove either side so why bother arguing with people not saying seriously that zerg is OP because of the ZvZ in foreigncraft
I gave you pre-LotV numbers on the 11th page
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Elentos
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On March 04 2016 23:37 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 23:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does Hydra just play super greedy and die to harass? That's kinda what I'm seeing. that's how he's played pretty much always? try to hold the unholdable with better mechanics or die trying to dumb cheese
Or doing his own cheese.
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OsaX Nymloth
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Australia18228 Posts
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Poll: Recommend Hydra vs Neeb game 5?* Terrible (5) 29% ** Not Recommended (4) 24% *** Pretty Good (2) 12% **** Very Nice (0) 0% ***** Amazing! (6) 35% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Neeb game 5? (Vote): * Terrible
(Vote): ** Not Recommended
(Vote): *** Pretty Good
(Vote): **** Very Nice
(Vote): ***** Amazing!
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The good old I DON'T RESPECT YOU build
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On March 04 2016 23:40 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 23:37 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2016 23:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does Hydra just play super greedy and die to harass? That's kinda what I'm seeing. that's how he's played pretty much always? try to hold the unholdable with better mechanics or die trying to dumb cheese Or doing his own cheese.
Neeb should've stayed in and wait for Hydra to overdrone like he did vs Lilbow
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Canada2764 Posts
On March 04 2016 23:39 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 23:33 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2016 23:30 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2016 23:25 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On March 04 2016 23:23 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2016 23:21 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2016 23:17 Binomyo wrote:On March 04 2016 23:10 Schelim wrote:On March 04 2016 23:09 Musicus wrote:
It's 3 ZvZs today, get hyped! said noone ever I play zerg but I have to admit that the only matches that was won against a Z was Polt-Lambo and Huk-PiG. Zergs presence is more and more predominant as the round goes. Let's look at every zerg win. Nerchio vs ShoWTimE : Very tight set, both players play very well, extremely tense until the last second. Lilbow vs SortOf : Lilbow gets advantages, throws it by going all-in with blink stalkers time and time again. MajOr vs Snute : Snute outplayed MajOr by holding him off, Snute was the favorite, no big deal. Hydra vs Happy : Hydra heavy favorite, wins in a close set. FireCake vs Has : FireCake is the definite favorite, plays smart and tactically against a cheesy player. MarineLorD vs viOLet : Tense, tight set, MarineLorD loses based on his own mistakes and his own choices, not imba. MaSa vs Snute : Snute is the heavy favorite. So, really, the only 'upsets' were MarineLorD vs viOLet and Lilbow vs SortOf, both of which involved the non-zerg making a few key mistakes while the zerg played well and largely out-performed the other race. I don't think zerg is necessarily imba, I just think the zergs have proven to be the best players in this tournament. Problem with that logic is that if zerg were to be the strongest race it would be easier to be considered "favorite" Except all the players he named as favorites would still have been considered favorites in HotS. EDIT: Darn, Soularion sniped me. When Behind, Dark Shrine. So what? By that HotS logic Lilbow would never lose to SortOf unless zerg super strong or something. But it's not HotS so favorite on HotS doesn't translate well to favorite on LotV. The only thing that would help with the ZvZ would be to have a korean protoss. Yeah, but then you look at the actual games- MaSa and MajOr vs Snute are Snute consistently out-playing, Has vs FireCake is FireCake outplaying, and presumably Happy vs Hydra is Hydra outplaying (although I didn't watch the matches). SortOf vs Lilbow is Lilbow outplaying, only to end up going far too aggressive by going into blink all-in time after time. Does this make sense with his playstyle? Yes. Does this make sense with the meta? Yes. What about this screams 'zerg OP' to you, and how could Blizz nerf zerg without it tilting in the other direction? Snute outplaying MajOr really? xD MajOr beat himself everytime by not having the full package, plus the pause helped Snute a lot especially since MajOr planned to win with multitask. I don't argue zerg OP I don't care at all but your logic is flawed, you can't prove either side so why bother arguing with people not saying seriously that zerg is OP because of the ZvZ in foreigncraft
'MajOr beat himself everytime'
So how can zerg be OP if MajOr himself and his mistakes lost the game, according to your own perception?
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me hate this map..so so much
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Anticlimax.... I hope hydra gets 3-0'd next round.
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and that's exactly how protoss should die in game 5s 
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