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Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
March 04 2016 14:34 GMT
#221
I really don't understand why disrputors became so rare in this matchup.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 04 2016 14:34 GMT
#222
On March 04 2016 23:34 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:34 sharkie wrote:
wow I didn't know disruptors can hit buildings

Yeah I was also kinda surprised.

Me too
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 14:35:40
March 04 2016 14:35 GMT
#223
Oh dear Ulrena

TIME FOR THE ROTTIBUILD
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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 04 2016 14:35 GMT
#224
On March 04 2016 23:34 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I really don't understand why disrputors became so rare in this matchup.

Because people were dying pre disruptor :p
It appears I have been chosen.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
March 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#225
On March 04 2016 23:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Oh dear Ulrena

TIME FOR THE ROTTIBUILD


That's in PvT
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#226
Does Hydra just play super greedy and die to harass? That's kinda what I'm seeing.
kiss kiss fall in love
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#227
neeb making NA sc2 great again
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#228
On March 04 2016 23:36 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Oh dear Ulrena

TIME FOR THE ROTTIBUILD


That's in PvT

Every build is a rottibuild including the 10pool in ZvZ.
kiss kiss fall in love
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
March 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#229
On March 04 2016 23:35 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:34 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I really don't understand why disrputors became so rare in this matchup.

Because people were dying pre disruptor :p


No because archon immortal chargelot countered lurker play better than blink disruptor
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#230
On March 04 2016 23:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does Hydra just play super greedy and die to harass? That's kinda what I'm seeing.

that's how he's played pretty much always? try to hold the unholdable with better mechanics or die trying to dumb cheese
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#231
I reversed the spawning positions in my mind and thought I was seeing a proxy hatch on Ulrena
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12449 Posts
March 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#232
I don't get why people don't put the nexus down anyway and then block the choke with a pylon on Ulrena
No will to live, no wish to die
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 14:37:54
March 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#233
On March 04 2016 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does Hydra just play super greedy and die to harass? That's kinda what I'm seeing.

that's how he's played pretty much always? try to hold the unholdable with better mechanics or die trying to dumb cheese

So Hydra adsorbed the last of Ret's powers
Neosteel Enthusiast
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#234
On March 04 2016 23:36 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:35 Fyzar wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:34 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I really don't understand why disrputors became so rare in this matchup.

Because people were dying pre disruptor :p


No because archon immortal chargelot countered lurker play better than blink disruptor

Yeah fair enough, he would've won with that too most likely.
It appears I have been chosen.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#235
HYDRA IS BELIEVING IN THE POWER OF ROACH.
kiss kiss fall in love
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 04 2016 14:38 GMT
#236
Think Neeb is dead ;/
It appears I have been chosen.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
March 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#237
Neeb will not hold ravagers in this map.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
March 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#238
On March 04 2016 23:33 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:25 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:23 Poopi wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:21 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:17 Binomyo wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:10 Schelim wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:09 Musicus wrote:
It's 3 ZvZs today, get hyped!

said noone ever


I play zerg but I have to admit that the only matches that was won against a Z was Polt-Lambo and Huk-PiG. Zergs presence is more and more predominant as the round goes.

Let's look at every zerg win.
Nerchio vs ShoWTimE : Very tight set, both players play very well, extremely tense until the last second.
Lilbow vs SortOf : Lilbow gets advantages, throws it by going all-in with blink stalkers time and time again.
MajOr vs Snute : Snute outplayed MajOr by holding him off, Snute was the favorite, no big deal.
Hydra vs Happy : Hydra heavy favorite, wins in a close set.
FireCake vs Has : FireCake is the definite favorite, plays smart and tactically against a cheesy player.
MarineLorD vs viOLet : Tense, tight set, MarineLorD loses based on his own mistakes and his own choices, not imba.
MaSa vs Snute : Snute is the heavy favorite.

So, really, the only 'upsets' were MarineLorD vs viOLet and Lilbow vs SortOf, both of which involved the non-zerg making a few key mistakes while the zerg played well and largely out-performed the other race. I don't think zerg is necessarily imba, I just think the zergs have proven to be the best players in this tournament.

Problem with that logic is that if zerg were to be the strongest race it would be easier to be considered "favorite"

Except all the players he named as favorites would still have been considered favorites in HotS.

EDIT: Darn, Soularion sniped me.

When Behind, Dark Shrine.

So what? By that HotS logic Lilbow would never lose to SortOf unless zerg super strong or something. But it's not HotS so favorite on HotS doesn't translate well to favorite on LotV.
The only thing that would help with the ZvZ would be to have a korean protoss.

Yeah, but then you look at the actual games- MaSa and MajOr vs Snute are Snute consistently out-playing, Has vs FireCake is FireCake outplaying, and presumably Happy vs Hydra is Hydra outplaying (although I didn't watch the matches).

SortOf vs Lilbow is Lilbow outplaying, only to end up going far too aggressive by going into blink all-in time after time. Does this make sense with his playstyle? Yes. Does this make sense with the meta? Yes. What about this screams 'zerg OP' to you, and how could Blizz nerf zerg without it tilting in the other direction?

Snute outplaying MajOr really? xD
MajOr beat himself everytime by not having the full package, plus the pause helped Snute a lot especially since MajOr planned to win with multitask.
I don't argue zerg OP I don't care at all but your logic is flawed, you can't prove either side so why bother arguing with people not saying seriously that zerg is OP because of the ZvZ in foreigncraft
WriterMaru
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#239
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#240
Calls himself Hydra. Does a Roach allin. Disgusting
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