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OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
March 04 2016 14:44 GMT
#281
On March 04 2016 23:43 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Its really hard to play pvz without static defence.

PO should have a range of Tempest.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3323 Posts
March 04 2016 14:44 GMT
#282
Resorting to cheese against neeb is a poor indication of your confidence.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 04 2016 14:44 GMT
#283
On March 04 2016 23:43 Philozovic wrote:
Neeb and MLord out ?
Who is going to stop the korean invasion now ?

THE ONE AND ONLY GATEAU DE FEU

Snute really need our TL bias.He is only TL player right now!.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
March 04 2016 14:44 GMT
#284
On March 04 2016 23:44 pmp10 wrote:
Resorting to cheese against neeb is a poor indication of your confidence.


Hydra needed to be stupid to not use that build in that map.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12184 Posts
March 04 2016 14:45 GMT
#285
On March 04 2016 23:44 pmp10 wrote:
Resorting to cheese against neeb is a poor indication of your confidence.


It's Ulrena.
No will to live, no wish to die
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
March 04 2016 14:45 GMT
#286
When can we finally get a map pool that is rational?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
March 04 2016 14:45 GMT
#287
On March 04 2016 23:40 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:39 Poopi wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:33 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:25 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:23 Poopi wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:21 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:17 Binomyo wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:10 Schelim wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:09 Musicus wrote:
It's 3 ZvZs today, get hyped!

said noone ever


I play zerg but I have to admit that the only matches that was won against a Z was Polt-Lambo and Huk-PiG. Zergs presence is more and more predominant as the round goes.

Let's look at every zerg win.
Nerchio vs ShoWTimE : Very tight set, both players play very well, extremely tense until the last second.
Lilbow vs SortOf : Lilbow gets advantages, throws it by going all-in with blink stalkers time and time again.
MajOr vs Snute : Snute outplayed MajOr by holding him off, Snute was the favorite, no big deal.
Hydra vs Happy : Hydra heavy favorite, wins in a close set.
FireCake vs Has : FireCake is the definite favorite, plays smart and tactically against a cheesy player.
MarineLorD vs viOLet : Tense, tight set, MarineLorD loses based on his own mistakes and his own choices, not imba.
MaSa vs Snute : Snute is the heavy favorite.

So, really, the only 'upsets' were MarineLorD vs viOLet and Lilbow vs SortOf, both of which involved the non-zerg making a few key mistakes while the zerg played well and largely out-performed the other race. I don't think zerg is necessarily imba, I just think the zergs have proven to be the best players in this tournament.

Problem with that logic is that if zerg were to be the strongest race it would be easier to be considered "favorite"

Except all the players he named as favorites would still have been considered favorites in HotS.

EDIT: Darn, Soularion sniped me.

When Behind, Dark Shrine.

So what? By that HotS logic Lilbow would never lose to SortOf unless zerg super strong or something. But it's not HotS so favorite on HotS doesn't translate well to favorite on LotV.
The only thing that would help with the ZvZ would be to have a korean protoss.

Yeah, but then you look at the actual games- MaSa and MajOr vs Snute are Snute consistently out-playing, Has vs FireCake is FireCake outplaying, and presumably Happy vs Hydra is Hydra outplaying (although I didn't watch the matches).

SortOf vs Lilbow is Lilbow outplaying, only to end up going far too aggressive by going into blink all-in time after time. Does this make sense with his playstyle? Yes. Does this make sense with the meta? Yes. What about this screams 'zerg OP' to you, and how could Blizz nerf zerg without it tilting in the other direction?

Snute outplaying MajOr really? xD
MajOr beat himself everytime by not having the full package, plus the pause helped Snute a lot especially since MajOr planned to win with multitask.
I don't argue zerg OP I don't care at all but your logic is flawed, you can't prove either side so why bother arguing with people not saying seriously that zerg is OP because of the ZvZ in foreigncraft

'MajOr beat himself everytime'

So how can zerg be OP if MajOr himself and his mistakes lost the game, according to your own perception?

Lol now I understand why you put Drogo at #3 xdd
WriterMaru
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#288
On March 04 2016 23:43 Philozovic wrote:
Neeb and MLord out ?
Who is going to stop the korean invasion now ?

THE ONE AND ONLY GATEAU DE FEU


HuK/Elazer finals
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Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
March 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#289
On March 04 2016 23:44 pmp10 wrote:
Resorting to cheese against neeb is a poor indication of your confidence.


It's Ulrena or do you not play the game?
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
March 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#290
On March 04 2016 23:45 EatingBomber wrote:
When can we finally get a map pool that is rational?

We need more creative maps, obviously
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
March 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#291
On March 04 2016 23:45 EatingBomber wrote:
When can we finally get a map pool that is rational?

When TL preview articles exceed 50% prediction rate
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
March 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#292
On March 04 2016 23:46 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:44 pmp10 wrote:
Resorting to cheese against neeb is a poor indication of your confidence.


It's Ulrena or do you not play the game?


Hydra could even have ended with a 3-1 if he did the same thing on lerilak, in close position it's as dumb as ulrena
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
March 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#293
On March 04 2016 23:43 Philozovic wrote:
Neeb and MLord out ?
Who is going to stop the korean invasion now ?

THE ONE AND ONLY GATEAU DE FEU

His French ID is GateauEnFeu tho
WriterMaru
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#294
On March 04 2016 23:43 Philozovic wrote:
Neeb and MLord out ?
Who is going to stop the korean invasion now ?

THE ONE AND ONLY GATEAU DE FEU

i knew that

if marinelord went through, the narrative just wouldn't fit

firegod is there to save european sc2 like it was meant to be

pray the lord my friends
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 04 2016 14:48 GMT
#295
On March 04 2016 23:41 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:40 Weavel wrote:
Anticlimax.... I hope hydra gets 3-0'd next round.

Surely Elazer/iAsonu will deliver.
Yeah... Should have checked the bracket before that comment.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 04 2016 14:48 GMT
#296
On March 04 2016 23:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:45 EatingBomber wrote:
When can we finally get a map pool that is rational?

When TL preview articles exceed 50% prediction rate

Going by PR-as-head-to-head (which isn't necessarily correct) PR is currently 14-9.
TIL 9 = 14
Writermaru pls
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
March 04 2016 14:48 GMT
#297
On March 04 2016 23:47 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:43 Philozovic wrote:
Neeb and MLord out ?
Who is going to stop the korean invasion now ?

THE ONE AND ONLY GATEAU DE FEU

His French ID is GateauEnFeu tho

#CakeOnFire?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 04 2016 14:49 GMT
#298
Is the fire to represent how he is the shining beacon of PASSION among the French?
kiss kiss fall in love
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
March 04 2016 14:49 GMT
#299
On March 04 2016 23:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:47 Poopi wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:43 Philozovic wrote:
Neeb and MLord out ?
Who is going to stop the korean invasion now ?

THE ONE AND ONLY GATEAU DE FEU

His French ID is GateauEnFeu tho

#CakeOnFire?


GateauDeFeu
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
March 04 2016 14:49 GMT
#300
On March 04 2016 23:48 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:47 Elentos wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:45 EatingBomber wrote:
When can we finally get a map pool that is rational?

When TL preview articles exceed 50% prediction rate

Going by PR-as-head-to-head (which isn't necessarily correct) PR is currently 14-9.
TIL 9 = 14

"But my PR isn't meant to be a prediction of who wins", he said. As if I was talking about that one in particular. Check the ego
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
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