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[ShoutCraft] Sandisk Invitational II - Day 3 - Page 20

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 15 2015 15:56 GMT
#381
On November 16 2015 00:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 00:48 Musicus wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:43 Nerchio wrote:
Exactly as I thought before the tournament - inviting people that didn't play enough of Lotv will look just sad. It's the easiest 10k that Solar won in his life while losing to Bly this week in bo3.

ZvZ...


Look at the LotV results section.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Leifeng_Cup

Reality, Gumiho and ByuN should've been the 3 terrans and it would've looked a lot less onesided.


TY played well enough to actually beat ByuN (as opposed to the other 2). I feel like saying someone else should have played in his stead doesn't do him justice.


Well in TvT it just came down to mechanics and learning how to use the new tanks. But strategy wise TY has no idea about non mirror matchups I think. The other guys saw this roach ravager stuff a 100 times while playing tournaments during the beta. Maybe the tournament was just played too early.

The tvt yesterday was still great though and I enjoyed it, so thanks TB and Sandisk!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
November 15 2015 15:58 GMT
#382
did TB say there was or wasn't going to be the customary rebreoadcast?

"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
November 15 2015 15:59 GMT
#383
On November 16 2015 00:58 chambertin wrote:
did TB say there was or wasn't going to be the customary rebreoadcast?



Yes there is
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
November 15 2015 15:59 GMT
#384
On November 16 2015 00:58 chambertin wrote:
did TB say there was or wasn't going to be the customary rebreoadcast?



Rebroadcast should begin in a few moments
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
November 15 2015 15:59 GMT
#385
On November 16 2015 00:58 chambertin wrote:
did TB say there was or wasn't going to be the customary rebreoadcast?



Pretty sure he said there was a rebroadcast starting "soon".
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
November 15 2015 15:59 GMT
#386
On November 16 2015 00:58 chambertin wrote:
did TB say there was or wasn't going to be the customary rebreoadcast?



there will
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
November 15 2015 16:00 GMT
#387
Poll: Who deserves Day 3s bonus prizemoney?

ByuN (125)
 
46%

Solar (66)
 
25%

TY (42)
 
16%

Bomber (36)
 
13%

269 total votes

Your vote: Who deserves Day 3s bonus prizemoney?

(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Solar
(Vote): TY
(Vote): ByuN


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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 16:01:26
November 15 2015 16:00 GMT
#388
On November 16 2015 00:45 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 00:43 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Garrl wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Elentos wrote:
This sucked and it's all on Solar.


?????????????????????????????

it sucked because he played well?

His strategies caused crappy games to happen.


You mean you want him to use bad strategies when playing for 10k?

As if you would.


So you're saying every single LotV strategy that doesn't involve roaches and/or ravagers is bad.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
November 15 2015 16:00 GMT
#389
On November 16 2015 00:59 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 00:58 chambertin wrote:
did TB say there was or wasn't going to be the customary rebreoadcast?



Rebroadcast should begin in a few moments


Thank you very much
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 15 2015 16:01 GMT
#390
On November 16 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 00:45 xccam wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:43 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Garrl wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Elentos wrote:
This sucked and it's all on Solar.


?????????????????????????????

it sucked because he played well?

His strategies caused crappy games to happen.


You mean you want him to use bad strategies when playing for 10k?

As if you would.


So you're saying every single LotV strategy that doesn't involve roaches and/or ravagers is bad.

yes
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 15 2015 16:02 GMT
#391
On November 16 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 00:45 xccam wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:43 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Garrl wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Elentos wrote:
This sucked and it's all on Solar.


?????????????????????????????

it sucked because he played well?

His strategies caused crappy games to happen.


You mean you want him to use bad strategies when playing for 10k?

As if you would.


So you're saying every single LotV strategy that doesn't involve roaches and/or ravagers is bad.


Then Life vs Lilbow was also bad because of Life, according to your logic.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 15 2015 16:03 GMT
#392
On November 16 2015 01:01 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:45 xccam wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:43 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Garrl wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Elentos wrote:
This sucked and it's all on Solar.


?????????????????????????????

it sucked because he played well?

His strategies caused crappy games to happen.


You mean you want him to use bad strategies when playing for 10k?

As if you would.


So you're saying every single LotV strategy that doesn't involve roaches and/or ravagers is bad.

yes


Ling/Hydra/Lurker/Ultra is amazing man.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 15 2015 16:03 GMT
#393
I'll go with ByuN
rip passion
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 16:08:27
November 15 2015 16:07 GMT
#394
On November 16 2015 01:02 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:45 xccam wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:43 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Garrl wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Elentos wrote:
This sucked and it's all on Solar.


?????????????????????????????

it sucked because he played well?

His strategies caused crappy games to happen.


You mean you want him to use bad strategies when playing for 10k?

As if you would.


So you're saying every single LotV strategy that doesn't involve roaches and/or ravagers is bad.


Then Life vs Lilbow was also bad because of Life, according to your logic.

And...? Even if Lilbow responded perfectly to every all-in, would that have made the games good? Doubtful.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
November 15 2015 16:07 GMT
#395
On November 16 2015 01:03 Deathstar wrote:
I'll go with ByuN


Same this side.
....
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
November 15 2015 16:10 GMT
#396
On November 16 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 00:45 xccam wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:43 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Garrl wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Elentos wrote:
This sucked and it's all on Solar.


?????????????????????????????

it sucked because he played well?

His strategies caused crappy games to happen.


You mean you want him to use bad strategies when playing for 10k?

As if you would.


So you're saying every single LotV strategy that doesn't involve roaches and/or ravagers is bad.


Perhaps what I should have said is, would you use strategies you weren't confident with for 10k?

If Solar thinks roach ravager is going to win, why would he not do it in favour of a harder to play style? The other styles don't have to be 'bad' in terms of being able to win to be bad, they just have to be worse than the style that will win.

+ Show Spoiler +
To clarify what I mean, a strategy can have a 60% win record vs Terran, but if there is a strategy with a 70% win record the first strategy is perhaps a bad choice.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 16:15:38
November 15 2015 16:11 GMT
#397
On November 16 2015 01:10 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:45 xccam wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:43 Elentos wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Garrl wrote:
On November 16 2015 00:42 Elentos wrote:
This sucked and it's all on Solar.


?????????????????????????????

it sucked because he played well?

His strategies caused crappy games to happen.


You mean you want him to use bad strategies when playing for 10k?

As if you would.


So you're saying every single LotV strategy that doesn't involve roaches and/or ravagers is bad.


Perhaps what I should have said is, would you use strategies you weren't confident with for 10k?

If Solar thinks roach ravager is going to win, why would he not do it in favour of a harder to play style? The other styles don't have to be 'bad' in terms of being able to win to be bad, they just have to be worse than the style that will win.

+ Show Spoiler +
To clarify what I mean, a strategy can have a 60% win record vs Terran, but if there is a strategy with a 70% win record the first strategy is perhaps a bad choice.

In that case he should just nydus every game because TY probably has about as much of a clue how to deal with that as any other Terran Solar beats with it.

On November 16 2015 01:07 Marcinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 01:03 Deathstar wrote:
I'll go with ByuN


Same this side.

Same, because of that one reaper grenade.

Somebody should really test if INnoVation's thor drop rush at Blizzcon can hold the LotV nydus.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
November 15 2015 16:21 GMT
#398
Thanks TB and Sandisk for the great tournament!
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 15 2015 16:23 GMT
#399
It was a shame many of the games were underwhelming, but ByuN vs TY and ByuN vs PartinG were definitely the highlights.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
November 15 2015 16:30 GMT
#400
so both TY and Byun should be set for a great start into LotV if terrans can come up with a solution to zerg.
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