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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 13 2015 19:02 GMT
#921
On November 14 2015 03:15 stuchiu wrote:
I like it when its terrible for a race like it was for Terran during bl/infestor cause it makes Mvp look so much better in comparison.

Terran actually could win with good viking controll iirc, protoss was pretty fucked though for the most part
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 13 2015 19:13 GMT
#922
On November 14 2015 03:19 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 03:15 stuchiu wrote:
I like it when its terrible for a race like it was for Terran during bl/infestor cause it makes Mvp look so much better in comparison.

Yeah man totally comparable situations I mean hell Legacy has been out for 4 days now you'd think one of these protosses would've figured some big stuff out. Also btw Life vs terran at the beginning of HotS was just as sick as anything Mvp did during BL/infestor. (inb4 "but he didn't have a broken back")

Life vs terran in early hots is during that MLG run is overrated. The game was never broken at that point. In hindsight terran was not imba at all during that period. Terran at the end of hots was stronger than terran at that mlg.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 13 2015 19:17 GMT
#923
On November 14 2015 04:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 03:15 stuchiu wrote:
I like it when its terrible for a race like it was for Terran during bl/infestor cause it makes Mvp look so much better in comparison.

Terran actually could win with good viking controll iirc, protoss was pretty fucked though for the most part

Nope. Teraan was completely fucked. Unless you were significantly ahead ie. your 2/2 bio-tank push all but kills zerg you'd lose no matter your viking control. Protoss had much more a chance albeit in an extraordinarily stupid way. Toss would hit vortex and win or miss and lose, or soul train. However, it allowed win rates to be closer to 50/50 in pvz compared to tvz in the dumbest way possible.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 19:32:25
November 13 2015 19:29 GMT
#924
On November 14 2015 04:13 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 03:19 Yorkie wrote:
On November 14 2015 03:15 stuchiu wrote:
I like it when its terrible for a race like it was for Terran during bl/infestor cause it makes Mvp look so much better in comparison.

Yeah man totally comparable situations I mean hell Legacy has been out for 4 days now you'd think one of these protosses would've figured some big stuff out. Also btw Life vs terran at the beginning of HotS was just as sick as anything Mvp did during BL/infestor. (inb4 "but he didn't have a broken back")

Life vs terran in early hots is during that MLG run is overrated. The game was never broken at that point. In hindsight terran was not imba at all during that period. Terran at the end of hots was stronger than terran at that mlg.

Whereas the perception of Mvp vs zerg during Bl/infestor is not overrated at all . Whether or not terran was broken (and I agree they weren't) zergs still hadn't figured out how to beat them (specifically widow mines) yet. Except Life.
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 13 2015 19:39 GMT
#925
3/4 terrans in the semis? terran imba, expansion terrible
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
November 13 2015 19:40 GMT
#926
Damn missed the whole thing and the rebroadcast. Will there be free vods or just for subscribers?
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
November 13 2015 19:41 GMT
#927
It was great to hear TB casting again.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
November 13 2015 19:50 GMT
#928
On November 14 2015 04:40 Rollora wrote:
Damn missed the whole thing and the rebroadcast. Will there be free vods or just for subscribers?


TB said they'd be on his YouTube
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 19:53:15
November 13 2015 19:52 GMT
#929
On November 14 2015 04:29 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 04:13 royalroadweed wrote:
On November 14 2015 03:19 Yorkie wrote:
On November 14 2015 03:15 stuchiu wrote:
I like it when its terrible for a race like it was for Terran during bl/infestor cause it makes Mvp look so much better in comparison.

Yeah man totally comparable situations I mean hell Legacy has been out for 4 days now you'd think one of these protosses would've figured some big stuff out. Also btw Life vs terran at the beginning of HotS was just as sick as anything Mvp did during BL/infestor. (inb4 "but he didn't have a broken back")

Life vs terran in early hots is during that MLG run is overrated. The game was never broken at that point. In hindsight terran was not imba at all during that period. Terran at the end of hots was stronger than terran at that mlg.

Whereas the perception of Mvp vs zerg during Bl/infestor is not overrated at all . Whether or not terran was broken (and I agree they weren't) zergs still hadn't figured out how to beat them (specifically widow mines) yet. Except Life.


Mvp won one tournament during broodlord infestor and that was mostly against foreign zergs.

His peak of dominance was when Terran was best.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
November 13 2015 19:54 GMT
#930
On November 14 2015 04:29 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 04:13 royalroadweed wrote:
On November 14 2015 03:19 Yorkie wrote:
On November 14 2015 03:15 stuchiu wrote:
I like it when its terrible for a race like it was for Terran during bl/infestor cause it makes Mvp look so much better in comparison.

Yeah man totally comparable situations I mean hell Legacy has been out for 4 days now you'd think one of these protosses would've figured some big stuff out. Also btw Life vs terran at the beginning of HotS was just as sick as anything Mvp did during BL/infestor. (inb4 "but he didn't have a broken back")

Life vs terran in early hots is during that MLG run is overrated. The game was never broken at that point. In hindsight terran was not imba at all during that period. Terran at the end of hots was stronger than terran at that mlg.

Whereas the perception of Mvp vs zerg during Bl/infestor is not overrated at all . Whether or not terran was broken (and I agree they weren't) zergs still hadn't figured out how to beat them (specifically widow mines) yet. Except Life.

it was the first tournament in HotS, how do you know zergs didn't know how to beat terran?
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
November 13 2015 19:54 GMT
#931
On November 14 2015 04:50 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 04:40 Rollora wrote:
Damn missed the whole thing and the rebroadcast. Will there be free vods or just for subscribers?


TB said they'd be on his YouTube

thx mate ♥
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
November 13 2015 20:17 GMT
#932
Rebroadcast resumed, Xsplit crashed on the playerback and I didnt realise.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
November 13 2015 20:19 GMT
#933
ByuN TY to give us the goty, ty wins goty but byun wins series?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 13 2015 20:27 GMT
#934
On November 14 2015 05:19 Cricketer12 wrote:
ByuN TY to give us the goty, ty wins goty but byun wins series?

Sounds like Flash/Bbyong to me.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 13 2015 20:47 GMT
#935
Byun's tvt has been his best lotv matchup in the online cups. I hope he asserts his dominance against TY
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 21:01:20
November 13 2015 21:00 GMT
#936
On November 14 2015 04:52 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 04:29 Yorkie wrote:
On November 14 2015 04:13 royalroadweed wrote:
On November 14 2015 03:19 Yorkie wrote:
On November 14 2015 03:15 stuchiu wrote:
I like it when its terrible for a race like it was for Terran during bl/infestor cause it makes Mvp look so much better in comparison.

Yeah man totally comparable situations I mean hell Legacy has been out for 4 days now you'd think one of these protosses would've figured some big stuff out. Also btw Life vs terran at the beginning of HotS was just as sick as anything Mvp did during BL/infestor. (inb4 "but he didn't have a broken back")

Life vs terran in early hots is during that MLG run is overrated. The game was never broken at that point. In hindsight terran was not imba at all during that period. Terran at the end of hots was stronger than terran at that mlg.

Whereas the perception of Mvp vs zerg during Bl/infestor is not overrated at all . Whether or not terran was broken (and I agree they weren't) zergs still hadn't figured out how to beat them (specifically widow mines) yet. Except Life.


Mvp won one tournament during broodlord infestor and that was mostly against foreign zergs.

His peak of dominance was when Terran was best.


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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
November 13 2015 21:32 GMT
#937
I know that is a rebroadcast but dat ragequit
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 13 2015 21:36 GMT
#938
On November 14 2015 05:47 Shellshock wrote:
Byun's tvt has been his best lotv matchup in the online cups. I hope he asserts his dominance against TY

TY is pretty good in TvT himself though, will be fun!
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 13 2015 23:19 GMT
#939
I'd like to report that I won a game on ladder with the proxy 4 gate vs Zerg, and he even scouted it!(Diamond)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55466 Posts
November 13 2015 23:49 GMT
#940
On November 14 2015 08:19 Dodgin wrote:
I'd like to report that I won a game on ladder with the proxy 4 gate vs Zerg, and he even scouted it!(Diamond)

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