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After years of nerfing and nerfing terran into the ground, cumulated with the weirdest consecutive buffs to protoss, here you have it... I'm so ashamed to even witness such game, and to be honest, big props to Fantasy for trying to do something despite being severely handicapped.
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On November 02 2015 04:55 chambertin wrote:
why couldn't those widow mines get their shots off... it seems like none of them did. if fanta had some more composure, or had taken the fight when herO was going into his natural I feel he could have done so much better.... so sad for fanta.
it was 152 to 109 supply at some point, even if that was misleading because no vikings and more workers for FanTa... I feel his positioning was too hesitant. He should have had other medivacs loaded with mines ready to kill off herO's eco or be set up better for defence with bunkers etc
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GOGO ByuL! :D We need some zergs for TvZ 
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On November 02 2015 04:56 HomeWorld wrote:
After years of nerfing and nerfing terran into the ground, cumulated with the weirdest consecutive buffs to protoss, here you have it... I'm so ashamed to even witness such game, and to be honest, big props to Fantasy for trying to do something despite being severely handicapped.
lol
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Windows is sponsoring ESL?
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United States97276 Posts
On November 02 2015 04:55 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Mvp was mostly known for being a super defensive macro terran. He only started cheesing a lot once his wrists died. I think the point is that he cheesed when he knew it was his best chance to win. It shouldn't matter much why his chances in macro games were slim.
Mvp was only a top player for like 4 months at a time max. He's just lucky the density of tournaments was so much higher back then. Inno has been a top player for 2 years. Mvp is overrated by nostalgia and distortion from memory
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On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure...
Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle.
Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from.
Life's solution to ZvP in 2014/15? 2 base burrow and 2 base lair cheeses.
Life's solution to Taeja and Dream? Proxy hatchery.
that's no learning material lol
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Austria24422 Posts
On November 02 2015 04:55 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Mvp was mostly known for being a super defensive macro terran. He only started cheesing a lot once his wrists died. I think the point is that he cheesed when he knew it was his best chance to win. It shouldn't matter much why his chances in macro games were slim.
Mvp cheesed for all kinds of reasons, as does Life. It's part of what makes the best players the best.
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On November 02 2015 04:54 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:I predicted ByuL 3-2 Classic, let's see. I expect ByuL to perform very well (until finals ?  ). I predicted Classic 3-2 ByuL. Come at me bro
Classic 3-0 ezpz
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On November 02 2015 04:57 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:56 HomeWorld wrote:
After years of nerfing and nerfing terran into the ground, cumulated with the weirdest consecutive buffs to protoss, here you have it... I'm so ashamed to even witness such game, and to be honest, big props to Fantasy for trying to do something despite being severely handicapped. lol
terran persecution complex online
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On November 02 2015 04:57 Brutaxilos wrote:
Windows is sponsoring ESL?
sponsoring all of blizzcon along with some other big sponsors
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On November 02 2015 04:57 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle. Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from.
what's BFH ?
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On November 02 2015 04:56 HomeWorld wrote:
After years of nerfing and nerfing terran into the ground, cumulated with the weirdest consecutive buffs to protoss, here you have it... I'm so ashamed to even witness such game, and to be honest, big props to Fantasy for trying to do something despite being severely handicapped.
User was warned for this post
hahaha
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United States97276 Posts
On November 02 2015 04:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:57 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle. Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from. what's BFH ?
blue flame hellions
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On November 02 2015 04:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:57 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle. Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from. what's BFH ?
blue flame hellions
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On November 02 2015 04:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:57 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle. Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from. what's BFH ?
blue flame hellion
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On November 02 2015 04:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:56 HomeWorld wrote:
After years of nerfing and nerfing terran into the ground, cumulated with the weirdest consecutive buffs to protoss, here you have it... I'm so ashamed to even witness such game, and to be honest, big props to Fantasy for trying to do something despite being severely handicapped.
User was warned for this post hahaha
I love it, till the end we will troll!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 02 2015 04:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:57 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle. Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from. what's BFH ?
Blue Flame Hellion
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On November 02 2015 04:57 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle. Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from.
But do learn the proxy hatch baneling bust on Merry Go Round.
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On November 02 2015 04:58 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 04:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 04:57 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation? INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past. What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow. Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"? Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure... Life is great and all, I love him, he's by far my favorite in SC2, but he's absolutely the last player you want to learn the game from, not even other progamers can emulate his playstyle. Most of his "solutions" involve the hardest possible reads and playing out strats that work because Life is fucking crazy and his gamesense is on an absolutely different level. Major example being Life holding off BFH with lings, you shouldn't ever fucking do it, Life does it because his control is outta this world. Or going blin 3hatch no pool every ZvP, that's also awful to learn from. what's BFH ? blue flame hellion
lol of course. Thanks . You can tell that build isn't as popular anymore.
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