Not me, that's why I said "blindly"

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Silvana
3713 Posts
On September 23 2015 07:45 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2015 07:44 Silvana wrote: Why are we trash talking Ryu Won anyways? I think if we are to blindly blame someone here it has to be H.O.T. no? Anyone even know what a manager does? Not me, that's why I said "blindly" ![]() | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
It could just as easily be the case that Ryu Won is a great coach, but doesnt work well with this team Sure, but that wouldn't change that he is the wrong coach for KT. People's skills and results go up and all down all the time regardless of coach/team Absolutely! But proleague goes on over a pretty long timespan, so it isn't that unreasonable to expect some stability in results, ESPECIALLY in a team format. In the end i don't care if Ryu Won would do well with any other team in the league, he is responsible for KT and if the team fails he is certainly to blame as well. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 23 2015 07:49 stuchiu wrote: Sure, but I'm not the guy saying Ryu Won is a scrub whose sole existence is what brang down KT. The point is that this season was a huge let down for that player roster. If there is something to change it most likely would be the coaching staff, not the players. (even though i wouldn't mind another nice signing :D) Nobody can take away what he accomplished with other teams, but that isn't important for this situation AT ALL. | ||
Silvana
3713 Posts
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On September 23 2015 07:49 stuchiu wrote: Sure, but I'm not the guy saying Ryu Won is a scrub whose sole existence is what brang down KT. Is anyone saying that? It might even be a case that KT players are too stubborn and have too big egos for a coach like that to succeed. No one is scapegoating the coaches completely. Most KT players are veterans and adults and need to take personal responsibility. But pretending there weren't strategic blunders in build choices and players matchups throughout the season would be letting the coaches skate. KT as a whole was disappointing and underperformed, and there need to be changes before next year. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
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Seeker
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Where dat snitch at?36948 Posts
On September 23 2015 07:37 Silvana wrote: Maybe Ryu Won was still working secretly for Jin Air all year long... #SPL'15 | ||
theMagus
578 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18333 Posts
On September 23 2015 07:36 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2015 07:29 OtherWorld wrote: On September 23 2015 03:14 stuchiu wrote: Here is how I saw Day 1. Flash and Life lost because they were outplayed. sOs/Pigbaby won off of prep, but the way they won was so out of eft field that no one should have been able to predict what they were going to do. Super won off prep. Ryu Won cannot literally go into the game and make Flash/Life play better. Here'"s how I see it : any coach > that Ryu Won scrub who made KT go from PL champions to 4th place. It's not even about losing to JAGW, that's just a match in a season which is nothing, it's about the way they played terribly during the whole fucking season despite having always a top3 toss (Stats or Zest), the best Zerg in the world when he was bought, and two traditional PL monsters (TY and FlaSh). I don't know if you realize : KT, 2014 PL champions, were basically carried to the season playoffs thanks to Zest. It means there's something very wrong about the team, and since the players didn't change much, and we can only assume that environment didn't change much either, well... that leaves us only with the coaching, be it relationships with players or method of training. All Ryu Won ever did was get multiple championships and top placings for Slayers, WJS and JA. All he was ever given was high praise by his peers and players. Yes surely it must be his fault! "top placing" for JA - errr.... with this roster finishing top4 at least is a given? He did very well with Slayers and WJS yes but with JA and KT: other coaches performed better | ||
Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Maybe I'm just used to failure from my favorite sports teams. | ||
Die4Ever
United States17601 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 23 2015 08:23 swag_bro wrote: Holy fuck sOs playing like a god again. Best Protoss in the world right now hands down. If you deny that, you are just a typical Protoss hater. Happy Birthday swag_bro ! | ||
necrosexy
451 Posts
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
but I gotta say, this loss does not cast the KT coaches in good light. over two days against evenly-matched opponents (at least), KT underperformed massively when it mattered. I've been having doubts about them, their choices, their management style (from the little I've seen)... I don't know, it just doesn't feel right. since last year there has been something off with this team, and then when you compare them to a team like SKT.... where oov and co. have been doing a masterful job this entire year. so much consistency, and they always feel perfectly prepared. KT has the talent, but it feels like it's been misused horribly this year. just my two cents... honestly I don't follow the coaching scene all that closely but can't help but feel there REALLY is something wrong with that part of the team after watching practically all of their performances over the last couple years. | ||
RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On September 23 2015 08:23 swag_bro wrote: Holy fuck sOs playing like a god again. Best Protoss in the world right now hands down. If you deny that, you are just a typical Protoss hater. How does saying sOs is not the best protoss mean you are a protoss hater? I´m actually interested to know the reasoning and logic behind your line of thought. | ||
FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On September 23 2015 18:44 RaFox17 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2015 08:23 swag_bro wrote: Holy fuck sOs playing like a god again. Best Protoss in the world right now hands down. If you deny that, you are just a typical Protoss hater. How does saying sOs is not the best protoss mean you are a protoss hater? I´m actually interested to know the reasoning and logic behind your line of thought. Congratulations ! You got swaged. Or Broed. | ||
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