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On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff.
really ?
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On September 11 2015 05:00 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 04:59 hitpoint wrote:On September 11 2015 04:56 hitpoint wrote:
Did Elazer get lair before ling speed again? Someone help me out. Anyone notice? Is there even a ZvZ build where you'd go mutas, but get lair before speed?
seems stupid because if you start speed afterward you're still losing a muta in exchange for the faster spire. i guess you could totally skip speedlings but that's gimmicky
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On September 11 2015 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. really ?
He prepared soO for the semifinal with Zest.
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On September 11 2015 05:03 Yorkie wrote:
Omg listening to post match analysis of a JD loss by Apollo and Incontrol of all people kinda makes me want him to go out in spectacular fashion here
I dunno if they could hold it together
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It is a bit weird that esports tournaments in 2015 still have issues like this. This is an esl/blizzard funded tournament so issues like this should not occur
Isn't esl the one promoting the new drug testing standards? You would think they would have no problems like this which have far more practical effect
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On September 11 2015 05:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. really ? He prepared soO for the semifinal with Zest.
OK I didn't know their connection got so far, I thought he only used builds they discussed about, not that they prepared together.
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On September 11 2015 05:05 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:00 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 04:59 hitpoint wrote:On September 11 2015 04:56 hitpoint wrote:
Did Elazer get lair before ling speed again? Someone help me out. Anyone notice? Is there even a ZvZ build where you'd go mutas, but get lair before speed? seems stupid because if you start speed afterward you're still losing a muta in exchange for the faster spire. i guess you could totally skip speedlings but that's gimmicky
I feel obligated to say that once I did that, but that game started with me 6pooling vs 10pool
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On September 11 2015 05:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. really ? He prepared soO for the semifinal with Zest.
He prepared him for the final with Zest too and we saw how that turned out
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On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff.
I mean, when soO goes out of his way to give Catz a shoutout in an interview after he wins, you know he probably did more than just share a couple builds.
Well, maybe not "know," but I think it suggests a bit more than just a couple "Hey, this could be cool."
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On September 11 2015 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. really ?
look at every winners game interview. The person he thanks the most is Catz.
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On September 11 2015 05:07 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. really ? He prepared soO for the semifinal with Zest. He prepared him for the final with Zest too and we saw how that turned out
He played macro in that one and won 3 games with just cheese in the rematch,
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He's allied with illidan the betrayer -.- Not sure skull knight thought that through
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On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff.
Neither taught him how to win a final tho.
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On September 11 2015 05:07 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. really ? He prepared soO for the semifinal with Zest. He prepared him for the final with Zest too and we saw how that turned out
soO had that one. If they play the Yeonsu game 10000 times soO wins 9999.
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On September 11 2015 05:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
It is a bit weird that esports tournaments in 2015 still have issues like this. This is an esl/blizzard funded tournament so issues like this should not occur
Isn't esl the one promoting the new drug testing standards? You would think they would have no problems like this which have far more practical effect
Are you talking about soundproofing?
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On September 11 2015 05:07 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
It is a bit weird that esports tournaments in 2015 still have issues like this. This is an esl/blizzard funded tournament so issues like this should not occur
Isn't esl the one promoting the new drug testing standards? You would think they would have no problems like this which have far more practical effect Are you talking about soundproofing?
yes
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On September 11 2015 05:07 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
It is a bit weird that esports tournaments in 2015 still have issues like this. This is an esl/blizzard funded tournament so issues like this should not occur
Isn't esl the one promoting the new drug testing standards? You would think they would have no problems like this which have far more practical effect Are you talking about soundproofing?
We should ask how Naniwa feels about that
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On September 11 2015 05:06 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:05 brickrd wrote:On September 11 2015 05:00 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 04:59 hitpoint wrote:On September 11 2015 04:56 hitpoint wrote:
Did Elazer get lair before ling speed again? Someone help me out. Anyone notice? Is there even a ZvZ build where you'd go mutas, but get lair before speed? seems stupid because if you start speed afterward you're still losing a muta in exchange for the faster spire. i guess you could totally skip speedlings but that's gimmicky I feel obligated to say that once I did that, but that game started with me 6pooling vs 10pool
ive done 1 base muta and won on deadwing but even in that game i got speed first
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On September 11 2015 05:07 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. I mean, when soO goes out of his way to give Catz a shoutout in an interview after he wins, you know he probably did more than just share a couple builds. Well, maybe not "know," but I think it suggests a bit more than just a couple "Hey, this could be cool."
I always thought soO was using those Catz shoutouts as a way to get more cool, hyped and likable  but yeah you're probably right.
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On September 11 2015 05:07 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 05:04 stuchiu wrote:On September 11 2015 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:On September 11 2015 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
ever since Hydra started being coached by Catz he's become a top zerg. Nice job ROOT! Just like how after soO started getting coached by Catz he made four GSL finals. ROOT really is the best way for Korean Zergs to get good I don't think Catz ever coached soO, he just shared some builds and ideas with him. He did more coaching than SKT staff. I mean, when soO goes out of his way to give Catz a shoutout in an interview after he wins, you know he probably did more than just share a couple builds. Well, maybe not "know," but I think it suggests a bit more than just a couple "Hey, this could be cool."
I was trying to get a hold of soO when I was writing Kings of Silver earlier this year and Catz was the go-to guy for getting in touch with him. Don't know if that means anything, but the fact that Catz could get a hold of soO in 15 minutes and the KeSPA rep I talked to had "no idea how to" feels telling.
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