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On September 11 2015 01:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 01:02 marvellosity wrote:On September 11 2015 01:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 01:01 marvellosity wrote:On September 11 2015 01:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
home advantage and some misplays by MLord. You won't convince me the better player won. some fancy logic here did MaNa appear more solid and well-rounded to you ? "one player played worse, but you won't convince me the other was better" Yeah, with that logic Stakhovsky is a better player than Federer. well, i don't get your logic. If Federer lost to him that day, Federer was the worse player for that match. Obviously Federer is the better player overall Bringing it back to Mana/MarineLord, Mana has historically hit higher levels of play than MarineLord/actually won stuff. So he has more achievements behind him, and he won the match. so... meh? 
luck and happenstance affect sports competitions all the time. they aren't always more of a factor than skill and execution, but sometimes they are. this is a truth of any competition. so no, i don't think a player who benefits from happenstance in a close game and wins arguably because of it is "better in that match", he just played well enough to stumble into a win
mana looked bad, not a fan of either race or either player
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On September 11 2015 01:10 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:02 Faefae wrote:
Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Except Taeja is pretty much retired now. Just like HerO.
yeah and he was tweeting stuff like that after any tournament loss right before winning the next IEM or DH around the corner
what does HerO have to do with it?
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Austria24422 Posts
On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:07 Boucot wrote:On September 11 2015 01:03 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:01 Faefae wrote:On September 11 2015 01:01 Boucot wrote:
The worse thing is that Lilbow could lose against MaNa in the Ro8. That would be shameful considering Mana's level lol MaNa has just absolutely destroyed elfi earlier today, even Olli admitted it was good PvP play Barely winning 2-1 (and barely is an understatement, the third game was close as fuck) is not destroying. it was a close as fuck hold of an attack with less collossi, less zealots and no thermal lance
All that happened after elfi got away with a 1gate expand into robo basically unchallenged, without even having to use overcharge against the oracle opening. Mana pulled some great moves to continuously pick off probes while teching up (elfi was still massively ahead in tech), then Mana did everything right to identify the attack, stall it for as long as possible, setting up the stalker flank (without it he'd have lost immediately), pulling probes at the exact right times to keep his important units alive, somehow squeezing in the templar archives and holding. THEN on top of that he sniped a stray colossus with 4 stalkers by surrounding it, avoiding the splash and hit a countertiming with his finished +1 attack and now higher colossus count.
If he hadn't done any of those things, he'd have outright died. It was insanely impressive PvP.
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On September 11 2015 01:09 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
If I'm going to be watching StarCraft all day, I should probably go to the store to get myself some chips. Don't start the game without me.
don't worry, this is WCS
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On September 11 2015 01:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:10 geokilla wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Except Taeja is pretty much retired now. Just like HerO. yeah and he was tweeting stuff like that after any tournament loss right before winning the next IEM or DH around the corner what does HerO have to do with it?
He hasn't played or shown much in 2015 just like Taeja? I've only seen him a couple times in Proleague.
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On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja.
Oh, yeah.
So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event.
Facepalmingly annoying
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Austria24422 Posts
On September 11 2015 01:14 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:11 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:10 geokilla wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Except Taeja is pretty much retired now. Just like HerO. yeah and he was tweeting stuff like that after any tournament loss right before winning the next IEM or DH around the corner what does HerO have to do with it? He hasn't played or shown much in 2015 just like Taeja? I've only seen him a couple times in Proleague.
He went 4-0 in R3 of Proleague. Is going to DH Stockholm as well.
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On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying
honeslty it often feels like just looking for excuses "oh I was playing this bad so bad, like my retire level bad"
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On September 11 2015 01:16 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying honeslty it often feels like just looking for excuses "oh I was playing this bad so bad, like my retire level bad"
It does
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On September 11 2015 01:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 11 2015 01:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 01:02 marvellosity wrote:On September 11 2015 01:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 11 2015 01:01 marvellosity wrote:On September 11 2015 01:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
home advantage and some misplays by MLord. You won't convince me the better player won. some fancy logic here did MaNa appear more solid and well-rounded to you ? "one player played worse, but you won't convince me the other was better" Yeah, with that logic Stakhovsky is a better player than Federer. well, i don't get your logic. If Federer lost to him that day, Federer was the worse player for that match. Obviously Federer is the better player overall Bringing it back to Mana/MarineLord, Mana has historically hit higher levels of play than MarineLord/actually won stuff. So he has more achievements behind him, and he won the match. so... meh? MLord played the match worse overall, but the way the series played out leads me to believe MLord was a better TvP player than MaNa was a PvT player. First game he showed obviously better control, second game he very likely panicked from a great position. If only the result matters I don't even know what's the point of talking about SC2.
Yeah I wasn't too impressed with Mana's PvT today. First game he had the advantage due to the failed proxy and it went into a pretty standard late game into nukes into loss. Second game Marinelord had it but just fell apart by not moving his widow mines down from Mana's main and move commanding his army into a planetary nexus. And every Terran knows that to defend the all-in attack you rally units to the back of your main and attack at the last moment with SCV buffer and you easily crush the attack instead of just attacking right away and letting the toss camp your production.
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On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying
Except he said this defeat was not the reason he would retire, it is because he is not getting better since months, and he does not have fun anymore which is key to improving accord to him.
source: &
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Ah man... should have known this started way earlier.
RIP elfi
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On September 11 2015 01:17 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying Except he said this defeat was not the reason he would retire, it is because he is not getting better since months, and he does not have fun anymore which is key to improving accord to him. source: https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642006561955708928 & https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642007004731559936
Hmm, he would surely be missed if he does retire, maybe he should go to Korea but that's easier said than done obviously.
Edit: Still, I think he should wait with a tweet like this.
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On September 11 2015 01:20 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:17 Faefae wrote:On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying Except he said this defeat was not the reason he would retire, it is because he is not getting better since months, and he does not have fun anymore which is key to improving accord to him. source: https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642006561955708928 & https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642007004731559936 Hmm, he would surely be missed if he does retire, maybe he should go to Korea but that's easier said than done obviously. Edit: Still, I think he should wait with a tweet like this.
weren't the Millenium players supposed to transfer to some Korean teamhouse either way?
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Come on seeeeeeeeeeeen <3
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On September 11 2015 01:23 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:20 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:17 Faefae wrote:On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying Except he said this defeat was not the reason he would retire, it is because he is not getting better since months, and he does not have fun anymore which is key to improving accord to him. source: https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642006561955708928 & https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642007004731559936 Hmm, he would surely be missed if he does retire, maybe he should go to Korea but that's easier said than done obviously. Edit: Still, I think he should wait with a tweet like this. weren't the Millenium players supposed to transfer to some Korean teamhouse either way?
Yes after BlizzCon I think. I'm not too worried, so many players said they would retire and didn't.
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On September 11 2015 01:27 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:23 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:20 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:17 Faefae wrote:On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying Except he said this defeat was not the reason he would retire, it is because he is not getting better since months, and he does not have fun anymore which is key to improving accord to him. source: https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642006561955708928 & https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642007004731559936 Hmm, he would surely be missed if he does retire, maybe he should go to Korea but that's easier said than done obviously. Edit: Still, I think he should wait with a tweet like this. weren't the Millenium players supposed to transfer to some Korean teamhouse either way? Yes after BlizzCon I think. I'm not too worried, so many players said they would retire and didn't.
Cool
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On September 11 2015 01:27 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:23 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:20 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:17 Faefae wrote:On September 11 2015 01:14 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:08 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:07 Penev wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2015 01:05 Penev wrote:Don't ventilate your thoughts on Twitter or you could accidentlly win 11 premiers Hmm? MLord is doing a Taeja. Oh, yeah. So stupid though, Twitter is a very nice medium to connect your "brand" to the world for (semi) celebrities, but so many of them make the mistake of immediately tweet their thoughts after an event. Facepalmingly annoying Except he said this defeat was not the reason he would retire, it is because he is not getting better since months, and he does not have fun anymore which is key to improving accord to him. source: https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642006561955708928 & https://twitter.com/M_Marinelord/status/642007004731559936 Hmm, he would surely be missed if he does retire, maybe he should go to Korea but that's easier said than done obviously. Edit: Still, I think he should wait with a tweet like this. weren't the Millenium players supposed to transfer to some Korean teamhouse either way? Yes after BlizzCon I think. I'm not too worried, so many players said they would retire and didn't.
Yeah cause even if you want, then you realize how hard your life is going to be if you do so.. No job, no degree usually so few opportunity etc.
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Just leave the 3rd and insta counter with the lings. Should work.
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