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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
September 09 2015 20:57 GMT
#1041
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

It is also the most standard. This build lives from WoL beta and still kicking. The only comparable thing is cannon rush.

The sad thing is, that 11/11 will be killed by LotV
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 09 2015 20:58 GMT
#1042
On September 10 2015 05:57 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

proxy PF

I remember RuFF attempted to do that on Catallena out of a mass reaper opening once. Did it ever work in a remotely competitive game ?
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 09 2015 20:58 GMT
#1043
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

Yes, and somehow SCVs always do more damage than other worker units. One doesn't see probe pulls or drone pulls winning games
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 09 2015 20:58 GMT
#1044
On September 10 2015 05:57 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

It is also the most standard. This build lives from WoL beta and still kicking. The only comparable thing is cannon rush.

The sad thing is, that 11/11 will be killed by LotV

it's 14/14/14 now
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
September 09 2015 20:58 GMT
#1045
On September 10 2015 05:54 a_flayer wrote:
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On September 10 2015 05:47 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:44 nojok wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:42 Yorkie wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:41 nojok wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:39 Yorkie wrote:
For all of you about to complain about this remember that when Scarlett did it you all got hyped and ignored the fact that it was a build order win

It was still a 4th base before scouting.

Well actually DRG didn't even take a 4th just went 3 hatch before pool and delayed roaches/ling speed. Scarlett went for fastest possible 7 gate with no sentries just stalkers/zealots which hits much earlier because you need less gas and don't need to wait for sentry energy. So I guess the two games weren't that similar

I mean that as a casual viewer, it was surprising to see a 4th before scouting as JD just did.

scouting was denied and he was reacting to the third base and fake gases because as z you have to gamble high or low with your economy there, blind units do no aggressive damage and seriously hurt your midgame if it's a real third and 60 probes

i'm not angry about the game or calling imba, im fine with toss mindgames and as i said i enjoy JD fan salt, but this particular kind of protossed provides no viewing entertainment whatsoever


Yeah, its just such an empty kind of game, because from an observer point of view you can see that it is over as soon as the Protoss moves out and the response from the Zerg is not there because he didnt guess correctly. And even as Lilbow was moving out you could see his poor multitasking as the probe failed to build a pylon, units were left unattended, etc, etc. And then you see the Zerg manages to identify what happened 10 seconds earlier, but in that time there's two chrono-boosted warp-ins in front of his base and its just over cause forcefields block any sort of engagement.


allins are designed to punish greedy play or bad scouting. without them the game would be pretty boring because everyone would use the same standard build every game.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 09 2015 20:58 GMT
#1046
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

1/1/1 > 11/11
Glorious SEA doto
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 09 2015 20:59 GMT
#1047
On September 10 2015 05:57 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

proxy PF


I respect your fine tastes.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 09 2015 20:59 GMT
#1048
Win and loss vs Has. Truly a polarizing player
AdministratorBreak the chains
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
September 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1049
On September 10 2015 05:58 NeThZOR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

Yes, and somehow SCVs always do more damage than other worker units. One doesn't see probe pulls or drone pulls winning games

icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
September 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1050
Wow, I am feeling the GUZ although they really should have given him a little axe.
I am the Punishment of God. If you had not commited great sins, god would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1051
On September 10 2015 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

1/1/1 > 11/11


11/11 has 4 1's, though, it's quite obviously superior.
AdministratorBreak the chains
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1052
On September 10 2015 06:00 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

1/1/1 > 11/11


11/11 has 4 1's, though, it's quite obviously superior.

in the end both fractions are equal to 1.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
September 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1053
On September 10 2015 05:58 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:57 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

It is also the most standard. This build lives from WoL beta and still kicking. The only comparable thing is cannon rush.

The sad thing is, that 11/11 will be killed by LotV

it's 14/14/14 now

Evolution is a good thing, but the ancestor has been killed, but not forgotten.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 21:02:19
September 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1054
On September 10 2015 06:00 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:58 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

Yes, and somehow SCVs always do more damage than other worker units. One doesn't see probe pulls or drone pulls winning games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPmwq6KBRpE

Isolated example, but thanks for searching for it anyway.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1055
On September 10 2015 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

1/1/1 > 11/11


Hmmmmmmmmm... I have to still give the edge to the 11/11 for still killing zergs every time I see it, 4 years and counting
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 09 2015 21:01 GMT
#1056
On September 10 2015 06:00 NeThZOR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 06:00 mderg wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:58 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

Yes, and somehow SCVs always do more damage than other worker units. One doesn't see probe pulls or drone pulls winning games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPmwq6KBRpE

Isolated example

Happens occasionally in PvZs with mutas too.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 09 2015 21:02 GMT
#1057
On September 10 2015 06:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 06:00 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 10 2015 06:00 mderg wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:58 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

Yes, and somehow SCVs always do more damage than other worker units. One doesn't see probe pulls or drone pulls winning games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPmwq6KBRpE

Isolated example

Happens occasionally in PvZs with mutas too.

lol and then my probes get killed
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 09 2015 21:02 GMT
#1058
On September 10 2015 06:00 NeThZOR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 06:00 mderg wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:58 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


That build is so pure only the greats are allowed to do it now.

What could be more pure than only marines and scvs ?

Yes, and somehow SCVs always do more damage than other worker units. One doesn't see probe pulls or drone pulls winning games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPmwq6KBRpE

Isolated example, but thanks for searching for it anyway.


Yes Artosis, yes you are.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 09 2015 21:03 GMT
#1059
On September 10 2015 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Personally I think terrans need to do more proxy 11/11 to achieve equality to protoss bs :C


They should just do it because it's the best build in SC2 history

10 pool
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 09 2015 21:04 GMT
#1060
Downtime is cool WCS! Keep doing it every season we love it
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
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