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Lorning
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Oq0CKCK.jpg) Saturday, Aug 22 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hell,_It's_Aboot_Time ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png)  BaseTradeTV |  TaKeTVHost: Mal Casters: Rifkin | ZombieGrub | Crank | Livibee ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MM4jy.png) Group A:  Bioice - Hydra -  Kelazhur - intenseGroup B: Zanster - Heart - Jaedong -  HuKGroup C: Welmu - HyuN - Semper - PengWinGroup D: Seed - Ret - puCK - MaSa![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hell,_It's_Aboot_Time#Group_Stage ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdLE8.png) Here | ||
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Lorning
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Poll: Who advances? Hydra & Kelazhur (10) Bioice & intense (1) Hydra & intense (1) Bioice & Hydra (0) Bioice & Kelazhur (0) Kelazhur & intense (0) 12 total votes Your vote: Who advances? (Vote): Bioice & Hydra Poll: Who advances? Heart & Jaedong (6) Jaedong & HuK (6) Heart & HuK (3) Zanster & Jaedong (2) Zanster & Heart (1) Zanster & HuK (1) 19 total votes Your vote: Who advances? (Vote): Zanster & Heart Poll: Who advances? Welmu & HyuN (7) Welmu & PengWin (2) HyuN & Semper (2) HyuN & PengWin (2) Welmu & Semper (0) Semper & PengWin (0) 13 total votes Your vote: Who advances? (Vote): Welmu & HyuN | ||
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On August 22 2015 23:07 Heartland wrote: here's hoping this goes smoothly, without many delays and with good games We're hoping so too bud! We worked on a lot of things last night, so hopefully everything's good now. | ||
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Good on him for making the effort ! *claps* | ||
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On August 22 2015 23:55 Topin wrote: no TL signs? im dissapointed Ret not getting any love from canada ... | ||
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On August 23 2015 00:36 Heartland wrote: Lol, so many basetrades this tour. Is everyone being affected by the name? living to the hype | ||
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On August 23 2015 01:17 Heartland wrote: why not proxy at the watchtower? I guess he plays the map by having a wall-off in case things go bad. | ||
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Full Female Casting Rules! ♥  | ||
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i'm not a big Pizza eater... but without a doubt... or should i say "no doobt aboot it".. Dominoes >> Pizza Pizza seeing the "crowd" you have to wonder if hosting it in Toronto was a mistake. Toronto is a big event town and ignores grassroots stuff. On August 23 2015 01:34 Azhrak wrote: By the way, any news about the prize distribution? Is it a secret on purpose? i wonder if some anonymous BaseTradeTV staff member blew part of the prize pool at Filmores last night. | ||
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Shellshock
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looking good now | ||
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On August 23 2015 02:17 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Hydra doesn't look to good today. Maybe Jaedong can win this tournament. That would be sooo nice ... but let's stay real. Hydra is currently a player two levels above JaeDong. But it would be great if JD reached the finals against Hydra and plays a few equal matches with him ... as a confidence boost, so that he would manage to get to the finals of WCS!!! And qualify for BlizzCon! | ||
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showstealer1829
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Odds for the afternoon groups Heart 1.37Zanster 3.21Jaedong 1.27HuK 3.95Seed 1.45Ret 2.83MaSa 1.73puCK 2.16 | ||
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On August 23 2015 01:34 Azhrak wrote: By the way, any news about the prize distribution? Is it a secret on purpose? inb4 $17000 first place | ||
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On August 23 2015 02:17 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Hydra doesn't look to good today. Maybe Jaedong can win this tournament. Any other tournament maybe but this one has the Seed of Choya. Choya is the Way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life | ||
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"Achoo!" - $O$ | ||
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On August 23 2015 03:58 nkr wrote: Have the numbers been this low the whole time? Seems lower than a regular BTTV cast :o Pretty much and not sure if it is the venues internet or something else bottle necking their video quality but the video quality is far below what BTTV normally provides when rifkin casts from home. | ||
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On August 23 2015 04:00 LimeNade wrote: Pretty much and not sure if it is the venues internet or something else bottle necking their video quality but the video quality is far below what BTTV normally provides when rifkin casts from home. That sucks. I'm not really interested in this event but it makes me sad to see. | ||
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By the way, so far, the whole event was really lucky with amazing games ... often, when you are watching the top players' games, it turns out to something too standard, while here we have seen so many funny basetrades!!!!! :-) | ||
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#1 $8,500 #2 $4,250 #3 $1,360 #4 $1,020 #5-8 $467 | ||
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PhoenixVoid
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On August 23 2015 04:24 Heartland wrote: only four pages :/ Along with the bad technical problems, there's two major tournaments occurring simultaneously which cuts heavily into viewership. It's really unfortunate timing that HIAT had to be held in the time a big Pokemon tournament and ESL One for CS:GO is streaming. | ||
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Solar424
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On August 23 2015 05:18 PhoenixVoid wrote: Along with the bad technical problems, there's two major tournaments occurring simultaneously which cuts heavily into viewership. It's really unfortunate timing that HIAT had to be held in the time a big Pokemon tournament and ESL One for CS:GO is streaming. Its a sad day when SC2 has to compete with (and loses to) Pokemon for viewership | ||
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intotheheart
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On August 23 2015 05:21 Solar424 wrote: Its a sad day when SC2 has to compete with (and loses to) Pokemon for viewership Pretty sure that Pokemon has always been more popular than SC.  Not necessarily at a competitive level, but Pokemon's been a part of a loooooooooot of childhoods. | ||
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On August 23 2015 05:23 IntoTheheart wrote: Pretty sure that Pokemon has always been more popular than SC. Not necessarily at a competitive level, but Pokemon's been a part of a loooooooooot of childhoods. what is pokemon??? was that not some stupid children toy? | ||
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On August 23 2015 05:28 DJHelium wrote: First time tuning in to HIAT, any good games so far? So cool to see Basetrade got their own event :D many awesome basetrades ... yesterday :-) already the first game yesterday was really funny :-) | ||
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cool I'm back from the land of alive now, go Jaedong and Hyun! damn these chairs for the audience look comfy af | ||
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On August 23 2015 05:18 PhoenixVoid wrote: Along with the bad technical problems, there's two major tournaments occurring simultaneously which cuts heavily into viewership. It's really unfortunate timing that HIAT had to be held in the time a big Pokemon tournament and ESL One for CS:GO is streaming. Heroes of the Storm too. On August 23 2015 05:21 Solar424 wrote: Its a sad day when SC2 has to compete with (and loses to) Pokemon for viewership Yes, what a sad day it is when hundreds of thousands of people can watch professional tournaments of dozens of videogames :/ what a tragic age we live in | ||
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Diabolique
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Yes, what a sad day it is when hundreds of thousands of people can watch professional tournaments of dozens of videogames :/ what a tragic age we live in LOL! What a true! :-) | ||
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Although I'd love for HuK to win | ||
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(I scv scout 99% of the time on 2 player map versus protoss, the one fucking game I don't I have a proxy gate close to my main ramp on this map, 1600 points masters and still relys on ridiculous cheeses /off topic rant) | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:01 Heartland wrote: wow he jaehooned that wow that's a reference I didn't expect in this thread | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:04 Ej_ wrote: LEEEEEEEENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKKKKKK Vortix, Slivko, SortOf, JohnnyRecco, Sniper, Nerchio! | ||
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Heartland
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On August 23 2015 06:05 Sent. wrote: No Stargate vs 9 Brood lords, I dunno Kev... it can be done with the right fight. But you need to rain storms on the BLs and get a good blink in on them while not dying to the rest of the Zerg army. | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:06 Heartland wrote: it can be done with the right fight. But you need to rain storms on the BLs and get a good blink in on them while not dying to the rest of the Zerg army. 1st step is having units in general | ||
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Diabolique
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On August 23 2015 06:00 Shellshock wrote: Jaedong!! I have a good feeling about him this tournament But for JD, this tournament is just a training ... he does not need $, he needs WCS points to get to BlizzCon, so let us hope, he wins some confidence on this tournament ... enabling him to do well in Poland and get to the final in WCS Season 3!!! | ||
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Heartland
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wasn't he at 200/200? | ||
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ok you got me I stopped watching after he lost the game when trying to attack the 4th | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:15 Heartland wrote: why did he have zealots and not Stalkers anyway? maybe saving gas for Desperation Templars | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:16 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Dunno if JD played good or Huk played bad. Huk played bad for sure. | ||
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Btw, JD's English is getting better, the two sentences about Toronto were reasonable :-) Go JD!!! | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:16 Boucot wrote: The casualness of this tournament is very enjoyable. Some may see it as a weakness, but I think it's the key strengh of this event. | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:48 Poopfeast 024 wrote: finally some good casting insight. holy shit crank is better livibee and rifkin combined x 10 times. Yeah I'm learning loads. :O | ||
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On August 23 2015 06:48 Poopfeast 024 wrote: finally some good casting insight. holy shit crank is better livibee and rifkin combined x 10 times. But female casters? | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Huk's Mothership Core control is so bad lol. Top 3 only applies to WoL units I guess I don't think he uses a lot of non-Gateway units anyway. | ||
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Crank casting is a real treat. The insight is great and his english makes it somehow even more amusing to me. Nothing beats a good progamer casting tbh. ZG I like but Crank's casting is really leaps and bounds above rifkin's and livibee's. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:15 Poopfeast 024 wrote: Crank casting is a real treat. The insight is great and his english makes it somehow even more amusing to me. Nothing beats a good progamer casting tbh. ZG I like but Crank's casting is really leaps and bounds above rifkin's and livibee's. I wanna see if we can get MC to cast ProLeague in English actually. :D | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:15 Poopfeast 024 wrote: Crank casting is a real treat. The insight is great and his english makes it somehow even more amusing to me. Nothing beats a good progamer casting tbh. ZG I like but Crank's casting is really leaps and bounds above rifkin's and livibee's. ZG primarily has an incredibly nice voice ... :-) | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:16 IntoTheheart wrote: I wanna see if we can get MC to cast ProLeague in English actually. :D hehe that would be great. his english is not as good as Crank's imo. my dream trio would be polt, crank and solar. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:17 Shellshock wrote: GIVE ME JAEDONG Go JD go!!! Show everyone how to play vs. Mech! Fortunately, it is not a TOP mech, but it will be a good practice ... | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:16 IntoTheheart wrote: I wanna see if we can get MC to cast ProLeague in English actually. :D Well, his English is quite far from Crank's one. Plus his teasing spirit might prevent us from his insight. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:18 Diabolique wrote: ZG primarily has an incredibly nice voice ... :-) yeah ZG is quite a lovable personality, doesn't matter if you find her attractive or not. Rifkin or Livibee on the other hand... | ||
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intotheheart
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On August 23 2015 07:18 Poopfeast 024 wrote: hehe that would be great. his english is not as good as Crank's imo. my dream trio would be polt, crank and solar. I don't think that his English would hold him back from being a great caster. It does its job. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:21 Poopfeast 024 wrote: yeah ZG is quite a lovable personality, doesn't matter if you find her attractive or not. Rifkin or Livibee on the other hand... Rif gave us the best intros for sc2 maps. Gotta respect that. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:28 shabby wrote: Did they say when they'd resume with JD? Now the time. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:26 Serimek wrote: Rif gave us the best intros for sc2 maps. Gotta respect that. that doesn't make him a good caster though | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:29 Poopfeast 024 wrote: that doesn't make him a good caster though No. But a loveable guy. (I'm no fan of his casting myself actually.) | ||
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And now, hype for JD to remember his better times! | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:29 Poopfeast 024 wrote: that doesn't make him a good caster though I think he's one of the best casters we have. Even if you don't like his humor or something like that. He's both well-spoken, and knowledgeable about the game at the same time. That's already better than 95% of sc2 casters. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:30 Serimek wrote: No. But a loveable guy. (I'm no fan of his casting myself actually.) i don't know, he has his own share of controversial stuff. like when he acted an ass about that guy that got fucked over in their tournament. and his cringeworthy responses on reddit. laughing about his own jokes and shouting all the time... not really lovable to me that's for sure. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:33 hitpoint wrote: I think he's one of the best casters we have. Even if you don't like his humor or something like that. He's both well-spoken, and knowledgeable about the game at the same time. That's already better than 95% of sc2 casters. i like rifkin for what he does, but he's not a knowledgeable caster. to be fair he has gotten better from all the time he spends watching high level play, but there's no one i would put him ahead in terms of game calling and analytics except maybe someone like wolf | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:37 brickrd wrote: i like rifkin for what he does, but he's not a knowledgeable caster. to be fair he has gotten better from all the time he spends watching high level play, but there's no one i would put him ahead in terms of game calling and analytics except maybe someone like wolf Well, who would you put ahead of him though in terms of knowledge? I don't feel like we have that many casters who actually cast regularly that give real deep analysis. Artosis, Nate, Rotterdam...who else? | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:40 hitpoint wrote: Well, who would you put ahead of him though in terms of knowledge? I don't feel like we have that many casters who actually cast regularly that give real deep analysis. rifkin himself doesn't give any sort of analysis to be honest. incontrol, tastosis, nathanias, apollo, huk etc even ZG are way better than him. even wolf/kaelaris/brendan would be better than him and i don't rate those very high | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:40 hitpoint wrote: Well, who would you put ahead of him though in terms of knowledge? I don't feel like we have that many casters who actually cast regularly that give real deep analysis. gamecalling and analytics = knowledge moonglade, brendan, artosis, nathanias, rotterdam, apollo, incontrol, i think all of these people are more knowledgeable than rifkin and give better analysis. crank, zombiegrub, maynard, pig, etc he's probably ahead of kaelaris and even-ish with wolf and modern tasteless | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:46 Shellshock wrote: do you guys think HuK can beat Heart? I have no idea about either's pvt to be honest. and neither seems to be in good form lately. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:53 Larkin wrote: what do swarm hosts do without the upgrade? The locusts walk into their deaths, as opposed to flying in with the upgrade. | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:53 Solar424 wrote: The locusts walk into their deaths, as opposed to flying in with the upgrade. that's what I thought | ||
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On August 23 2015 07:49 Poopfeast 024 wrote: I have no idea about either's pvt to be honest. and neither seems to be in good form lately. i recall Heart beating HuK in an ultra long convoluted 1-1-1 off 1 base against an expanding HuK on Metalopolis. but that was a long long time ago. | ||
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On August 23 2015 08:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i recall Heart beating HuK in an ultra long convoluted 1-1-1 off 1 base against an expanding HuK on Metalopolis. but that was a long long time ago. yea. they havent played in a tournament since 2013 according to aligulac's match history. interestingly enough they've played 5 times and the score has been 2-1 every time. heart won all 4 WoL meetings and HuK won the 1 HotS meeting | ||
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On August 23 2015 08:27 Shellshock wrote: Heart not going mech on Terraform of all maps? He's taking one for the Terran team to balance out win rates. | ||
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On August 23 2015 08:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i recall Heart beating HuK in an ultra long convoluted 1-1-1 off 1 base against an expanding HuK on Metalopolis. but that was a long long time ago. oh yeah back then when heart cheesed literally every game. him and sound i don't ever recall those guys not proxying/1-1-1ing/2raxing in wol | ||
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On August 23 2015 08:36 swag_bro wrote: Doesnt one DT kill a marine and a hydra even if detected? nah DTs get a -99% damage debuff when they are detected | ||
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Solar424
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On August 23 2015 08:40 Poopfeast 024 wrote: nah DTs get a -99% damage debuff when they are detected I wish T_T | ||
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well played by Huk nonetheless, props for trying. | ||
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Solar424
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Diabolique
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On August 23 2015 09:38 xtorn wrote: props for trying. This mentality is why foreigners lose. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On August 23 2015 09:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Good ol' low level Korean beating good foreigners. Nothing new here :/ HuK is not really one of the best foreigners though. He hasn't been in Premier League for two seasons now. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16673 Posts
the Vancouver Canadians hat was pretty cool. On August 23 2015 09:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This mentality is why foreigners lose. they lose because they do not immerse themselves in the culture of the best players... like Grrrr did... like any basketball player from any where else outside NA does when they enter the NCAA or NBA. HuK played best when MC was his roomie and playing partner... it was no accident,. | ||
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