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Aelendis
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium892 Posts
August 18 2015 13:01 GMT
#201
On August 18 2015 21:58 brickrd wrote:
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On August 18 2015 21:56 Topdoller wrote:
Rogue deserved the win just for trying something new against mech...well played. Got my doubts a player on the ladder could do it mind you

i think it can be done. the important thing would be abducting vikings and killing them when they overextend so the mass vipers can stay alive with micro

i think one of the hardest things about playing mech late is keeping up creep so your queens can be in the fight


Yeah, but the important thing in this game was that he was really tearing Bbyong apart, with his swarm hosts, and picking units left and right. Rogue was then able to tech to broods, on 5 bases, against a pretty much raven-less compo of Bbyong.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 18 2015 13:01 GMT
#202
On August 18 2015 22:00 Mun_Su wrote:
So Zerg finaly figure out how to deal with mech! It has been quick ^^

let's see more than one game before deciding mech is figured out LOL
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
August 18 2015 13:02 GMT
#203
Trap FPL hype, or Trap loss and double Maru win! Though I think Rogue might be coming out as ace after this and seeing Maru's form
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
August 18 2015 13:02 GMT
#204
The key to winning that game wasn't the swarm hosts (though they helped) but going BL's before Ultra's instead of the other way around imo. Still, mech will prove to be too strong v (most) Z
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 18 2015 13:03 GMT
#205
SPL Round 4: Jin Air vs CJ Entus

(P)Trap vs (Z)ByuL
1-1

Map: Coda

Trap spawns in the top left
ByuL spawns in the bottom right
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 13:03:42
August 18 2015 13:03 GMT
#206
On August 18 2015 22:01 Aelendis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 21:58 brickrd wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:56 Topdoller wrote:
Rogue deserved the win just for trying something new against mech...well played. Got my doubts a player on the ladder could do it mind you

i think it can be done. the important thing would be abducting vikings and killing them when they overextend so the mass vipers can stay alive with micro

i think one of the hardest things about playing mech late is keeping up creep so your queens can be in the fight


Yeah, but the important thing in this game was that he was really tearing Bbyong apart, with his swarm hosts, and picking units left and right. Rogue was then able to tech to broods, on 5 bases, against a pretty much raven-less compo of Bbyong.

i'm talking about when his army was already viper hydra queen brood and he was pushing the middle. he could have EASILY still lost the game there with a bad fight, but it was important that there weren't infinite vikings to kill all the vipes. he abducted and sniped a lot of vikings, it was like TvT air control
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 18 2015 13:03 GMT
#207
yeah, i am pretty sure that bbyong just didnt have enough vikings fast enough. vipers shouldnt be able to counter vikings
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 18 2015 13:04 GMT
#208
Waow, Lorningsenpai and The_Templar both have their passion for cute little teamleagues like PL, but don't have any for WCS...
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 18 2015 13:04 GMT
#209
I have to leave after this game, so hopefully it's quick.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 18 2015 13:04 GMT
#210
On August 18 2015 22:00 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 21:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
so what is the tvz meta now anyways, i've been gone for a few months

standard roach,hydra viper
queen ultra timing to deny the fourth into whatever i.e. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/492236-the-skt-anti-mech-ultra-queen-timing-attack
dieing to mass raven

more BC than raven sometimes
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x0x0
Profile Joined August 2015
149 Posts
August 18 2015 13:05 GMT
#211
I would like to see the faces of Terran mech-ers on ladder when they'll taste defeat with this strategy!Hahahahhahah..there is a Rogue in all of zerg players now!!
ZYCSMDYF
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#212
On August 18 2015 22:04 The_Templar wrote:
I have to leave after this game, so hopefully it's quick.

At least you're actually doing LR, which is better than me.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
August 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#213
On August 18 2015 22:05 x0x0 wrote:
I would like to see the faces of Terran mech-ers on ladder when they'll taste defeat with this strategy!Hahahahhahah..there is a Rogue in all of zerg players now!!


I am definitely not capable of that micro.... though maybe my opponents are not that good as well ^^
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#214
On August 18 2015 22:03 Paljas wrote:
yeah, i am pretty sure that bbyong just didnt have enough vikings fast enough. vipers shouldnt be able to counter vikings

rogue was certainly killing vikings intentionally. two abducts on vikings with no other units around isn't a mistake, it meant he realized they were an important counter to his comp
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 18 2015 13:07 GMT
#215
On August 18 2015 22:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 22:04 The_Templar wrote:
I have to leave after this game, so hopefully it's quick.

At least you're actually doing LR, which is better than me.

I'd stay, but I have a class in Korean (no, really) in two hours and I need to prepare a bit in addition to getting ready normally.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 18 2015 13:08 GMT
#216
On August 18 2015 22:07 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 22:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 18 2015 22:04 The_Templar wrote:
I have to leave after this game, so hopefully it's quick.

At least you're actually doing LR, which is better than me.

I'd stay, but I have a class in Korean (no, really) in two hours and I need to prepare a bit in addition to getting ready normally.

Are you listening to the casting to help kinda get used to the pace of speaking? :O
I remember back in high school Spanish when my instructor kicked it up a notch.
Holy shit. ;_________;
kiss kiss fall in love
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 18 2015 13:08 GMT
#217
On August 18 2015 22:03 The_Templar wrote:
SPL Round 4: Jin Air vs CJ Entus

(P)Trap vs (Z)ByuL
1-1

Map: Coda

Trap spawns in the top left
ByuL spawns in the bottom right

22:04 KST
Hatchery first versus nexus first.
Gateway + 2 gas for Trap.
ByuL getting a third base, followed by a spawning pool.

22:05
Cybernetics core for Trap.
Trap producing probes.
ByuL starts up three queens and two zerglings.
Sentry first for Trap.

22:06
MSC for Trap.
Trap following his sentry with a stalker.
A fourth queen is in production for ByuL.
Stargate for Trap.
Trap getting another sentry.
Forge being built.

22:07
ByuL getting a spore at his third already.
Zergling speed starts.
Lair on the way.
Trap moves out with a stalker and MSC with a proxy pylon.
A fake oracle is sent into ByuL's main with a real oracle not too far behind.
ByuL has already built spores though.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 18 2015 13:08 GMT
#218
oh also what happened to the timer?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 18 2015 13:08 GMT
#219
On August 18 2015 22:08 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 22:07 The_Templar wrote:
On August 18 2015 22:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 18 2015 22:04 The_Templar wrote:
I have to leave after this game, so hopefully it's quick.

At least you're actually doing LR, which is better than me.

I'd stay, but I have a class in Korean (no, really) in two hours and I need to prepare a bit in addition to getting ready normally.

Are you listening to the casting to help kinda get used to the pace of speaking? :O
I remember back in high school Spanish when my instructor kicked it up a notch.
Holy shit. ;_________;

Man, I should be, but I'm not. ;;
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 18 2015 13:08 GMT
#220
On August 18 2015 22:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
oh also what happened to the timer?

They got rid of it to prevent people from gambling.
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