On July 21 2015 19:08 DarkLordOlli wrote: Ugh, should have just macroed
Or just add Blink somewhere, it would have been a whole other story
I mean, you can't hit the anti hive timing if you tech to blink after the oracles, but I think if you just macro on pure blink/sentry you win anyway. Roach/hydra viper is hilariously weak after you lose 20 drones.
On July 21 2015 19:07 Ej_ wrote: oh it's just 11gate all-in?
Everything's better with 11 gateways
Do you remember that game when SD took super quick 3rd in WCS vs Snute and then just did 11gate all-in after that? It was like 4gate +1, but with 7 more gateways
On July 21 2015 19:08 DarkLordOlli wrote: Ugh, should have just macroed
Or just add Blink somewhere, it would have been a whole other story
I mean, you can't hit the anti hive timing if you tech to blink after the oracles, but I think if you just macro on pure blink/sentry you win anyway. Roach/hydra viper is hilariously weak after you lose 20 drones.
What exactly is the value of doing the build HerO tried? Wouldn't it be better to just do an empty third base timing at 10:00 or a +2 blink 3 base stalker build>?
On July 21 2015 19:08 DarkLordOlli wrote: Ugh, should have just macroed
Or just add Blink somewhere, it would have been a whole other story
I mean, you can't hit the anti hive timing if you tech to blink after the oracles, but I think if you just macro on pure blink/sentry you win anyway. Roach/hydra viper is hilariously weak after you lose 20 drones.
What exactly is the value of doing the build HerO tried? Wouldn't it be better to just do an empty third base timing at 10:00 or a +2 blink 3 base stalker build>?
He did an empty third all in. The idea is to kill drones/queens with the zealot warpin or at the very worst force a roach warren (you can't all in ling/hydra with this) -> then kill drones with the oracle -> then hit the attack. After killing 20 drones, the zerg can't really outproduce you and you should overwhelm them in the long run. HerO would have done that too, just needed to take better fights
I don't think the build was necessarily bad, I just like it better with a blink transition. Let Curious have his hive, it's pretty useless after losing 20 drones anyway. You can kill roach/hydra/viper with pure stalker/sentry from that spot.
On July 21 2015 19:08 DarkLordOlli wrote: Ugh, should have just macroed
Or just add Blink somewhere, it would have been a whole other story
I mean, you can't hit the anti hive timing if you tech to blink after the oracles, but I think if you just macro on pure blink/sentry you win anyway. Roach/hydra viper is hilariously weak after you lose 20 drones.
What exactly is the value of doing the build HerO tried? Wouldn't it be better to just do an empty third base timing at 10:00 or a +2 blink 3 base stalker build>?
He did an empty third all in. The idea is to kill drones/queens with the zealot warpin or at the very worst force a roach warren (you can't all in ling/hydra with this) -> then kill drones with the oracle -> then hit the attack. After killing 20 drones, the zerg can't really outproduce you and you should overwhelm them in the long run. HerO would have done that too, just needed to take better fights
I don't think the build was necessarily bad, I just like it better with a blink transition. Let Curious have his hive, it's pretty useless after losing 20 drones anyway. You can kill roach/hydra/viper with pure stalker/sentry from that spot.
Since he opened oracle and then did the empty third base he also may be trying to to metagame the zerg (the almost universal way to play a generic macro build in the Korean PvZ meta is to open stargate) into thinking he wouldn't do a timing like that.