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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 21 2015 13:02 GMT
#281
On July 21 2015 22:01 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

Terran has never been abusive ever.

Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 13:03:02
July 21 2015 13:02 GMT
#282
On July 21 2015 22:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:01 HellHound wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

What is the 1/1/1?


It's the password to Puma's bank account

Wow really, you going to say this on TL LR thread, so harsh
Next you will be telling us Maka's bank account number
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
July 21 2015 13:02 GMT
#283
On July 21 2015 22:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:01 HellHound wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

What is the 1/1/1?


It's the password to Puma's bank account

That's way too short for a bank password
should be at least 111dcf
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 21 2015 13:02 GMT
#284
On July 21 2015 22:02 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:01 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

Terran has never been abusive ever.

Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.

all of them practicing hard in anticipation of ZParcraft
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 21 2015 13:02 GMT
#285
Summer of Flash is in full swing
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 21 2015 13:03 GMT
#286
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

True that.
I was refering to the 1 year of Toss Dominance in Premier Tourneys 2014 and the huge variety of bullshit build orders. You have to agree that Toss has more BS to choose from (2-3 oracles into void rays, DT stuff, Cannonrush, Blink allin that had a way too high success rate etc etc...)
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 21 2015 13:03 GMT
#287
On July 21 2015 22:01 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.

I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.


That sounds as if he'd get crushed vs Flash's macro style of PvT


Yes, it would get crushed by that. It relies a lot on scouting and figuring out what type of style the terran plays.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
July 21 2015 13:03 GMT
#288
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.


Protoss is still wayyy ahead in terms of bullshit builds tho.

HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
July 21 2015 13:03 GMT
#289
On July 21 2015 22:02 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:01 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

Terran has never been abusive ever.

Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.

Don't have the mechanics to play zerg or the style to play protoss obviously.
It's their only choice
poor things.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 21 2015 13:04 GMT
#290
If Bbyong wins this, TvT on Coda?
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 13:04:46
July 21 2015 13:04 GMT
#291
Wolf seems to have no idea that the standard way to follow up a reaper into double barracks is to always take your scv's off gas @50 gas for the reactor

>.>

Terran's have done this build about 20 million times over the last few years
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 21 2015 13:04 GMT
#292
On July 21 2015 22:03 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

True that.
I was refering to the 1 year of Toss Dominance in Premier Tourneys 2014 and the huge variety of bullshit build orders. You have to agree that Toss has more BS to choose from (2-3 oracles into void rays, DT stuff, Cannonrush, Blink allin that had a way too high success rate etc etc...)

David Kim should introduce Night Elves as the 4th race, and further overlap the Warcraft Universe with the Starcraft Universe a la Marvel Comics.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 21 2015 13:04 GMT
#293
Oh 3rax, interesting. Haven't seen that in a while, it's quite out of metagame favor
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
July 21 2015 13:04 GMT
#294
On July 21 2015 22:03 LoneYoShi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.


Protoss is still wayyy ahead in terms of bullshit builds tho.

Eh, that's something that everyone knows already no need to bring it up.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 21 2015 13:05 GMT
#295
On July 21 2015 22:03 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:02 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:01 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

Terran has never been abusive ever.

Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.

Don't have the mechanics to play zerg or the style to play protoss obviously.
It's their only choice
poor things.

You don't need style to play Protoss. You need Swag.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 21 2015 13:05 GMT
#296
On July 21 2015 22:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh 3rax, interesting. Haven't seen that in a while, it's quite out of metagame favor


Most straight bio players like to go 3rd cc before 2nd + 3rd barracks in the modern meta if they don't open factory
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
July 21 2015 13:05 GMT
#297
On July 21 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:03 HellHound wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:02 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:01 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

Terran has never been abusive ever.

Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.

Don't have the mechanics to play zerg or the style to play protoss obviously.
It's their only choice
poor things.

You don't need style to play Protoss. You need Swag.

No you need style to play protoss.
You need swag to actually be good at it.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
July 21 2015 13:06 GMT
#298
Zest is totally playing to Bbyong's style isn't he? Robo, defensively.
But bbyong is not playing drop this time :o
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 21 2015 13:06 GMT
#299
On July 21 2015 22:02 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:01 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 21 2015 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:59 Rollora wrote:
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote:
scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.

After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too


You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.

Terran has never been abusive ever.

Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.

honest players there are some left
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 21 2015 13:06 GMT
#300
On July 21 2015 22:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 22:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh 3rax, interesting. Haven't seen that in a while, it's quite out of metagame favor


Most straight bio players like to go 3rd cc before 2nd + 3rd barracks in the modern meta if they don't open factory


3CC is just a very very greedy option, 3rax used to be the standard before factory openings got popular. It's still not bad, just out of the metagame. This is a strong push from Bbyong, Zest has no idea
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