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On July 18 2015 04:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:54 Cheren wrote:On July 18 2015 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 04:53 Cheren wrote: How is Bo5 worse than a finals on a bad map pool with no vetoes? Define "bad", please Pretty sure there's a picture of the current map pool in the dictionary under the word. And no vetoes is bad even on a good map pool. Ideally they'd have a bigger pool or repeat 2 maps. What do you have against this map pool? Just because you can't play captain standard man on every map doesn't make it bad. Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. I'd say Bo7 is too short. I want longer finals, not shorter. Anything shorter than a Bo69 final should be considered a joke tournament.
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On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality).
There are just too many variables and too many ways you can do it. You will always just find out who is the best in a given format and thus it is for the best to have the tourneys vary, so that different kinds of players can shine.
Do you think Tasteless likes McDonalds?
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On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality). Burger King is much better. Nothing like a good Whopper at the end of the week with a large vanilla Coke to wash it down :D
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On July 18 2015 05:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality). Burger King is much better. Nothing like a good Whopper at the end of the week with a large vanilla Coke to wash it down :D This gave me a pulp fiction flash back
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On July 18 2015 04:59 Penev wrote: Patience can't lose this one anymore Such an "expert"
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Curious looks so unimpressed when he wins
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Poll: Patience vs Curious Game 3?Terrible (0) 0% Bad (0) 0% Decent (2) 29% Good (3) 43% Awesome! (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Patience vs Curious Game 3? (Vote): Terrible (Vote): Bad (Vote): Decent (Vote): Good (Vote): Awesome!
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On July 18 2015 05:01 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality). There are just too many variables and too many ways you can do it. You will always just find out who is the best in a given format and thus it is for the best to have the tourneys vary, so that different kinds of players can shine. Do you think Tasteless likes McDonalds? Hmm not always. Basically think it this way : if in a tournament like GSL all matches were Bo1s, do you think we would always find out who's the best player of the tournament?
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Going colossi was retarded... You had to expect ultras. Even if you don't expect them and think it's broodlords, scout carefully. I guess you get that wanky decision making when you always all-in.
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On July 18 2015 05:05 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 05:01 opisska wrote:On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality). There are just too many variables and too many ways you can do it. You will always just find out who is the best in a given format and thus it is for the best to have the tourneys vary, so that different kinds of players can shine. Do you think Tasteless likes McDonalds? Hmm not always. Basically think it this way : if in a tournament like GSL all matches were Bo1s, do you think we would always find out who's the best player of the tournament? to be fair a tournament rarely crowns the objectively best player. You can lose to a team mate, get an unfortunate series of events in a group of death...
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On July 18 2015 05:05 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 05:01 opisska wrote:On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality). There are just too many variables and too many ways you can do it. You will always just find out who is the best in a given format and thus it is for the best to have the tourneys vary, so that different kinds of players can shine. Do you think Tasteless likes McDonalds? Hmm not always. Basically think it this way : if in a tournament like GSL all matches were Bo1s, do you think we would always find out who's the best player of the tournament?
I would surely not be against having one weekend tournament like that, giving money and WCS points. Not the GSL/SSL though, these should be the "best" format we can come up with, because they are the pinnacle of the sport. But one tourney, sure. Pretty much the same as I found it absurd when people fought against IEM WC being winner-takes-all - when it is not the norm, but a minority of tourneys, almost everything should be allowed.
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Come on Curious, finish him off.
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Guys why did the thread die
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Ha ha those Zergs are getting good at this ^^
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On July 18 2015 05:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 05:05 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 05:01 opisska wrote:On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality). There are just too many variables and too many ways you can do it. You will always just find out who is the best in a given format and thus it is for the best to have the tourneys vary, so that different kinds of players can shine. Do you think Tasteless likes McDonalds? Hmm not always. Basically think it this way : if in a tournament like GSL all matches were Bo1s, do you think we would always find out who's the best player of the tournament? to be fair a tournament rarely crowns the objectively best player. You can lose to a team mate, get an unfortunate series of events in a group of death... I agree on that, I'm not saying that GSL format is perfect. However given the constraints like time (which is main limiting factor that prevents things like Bo5 in the GSL groups), GSL does a good job in that regard. However I don't see what would be the issue for DH to start their damn event 40 minutes earlier and make a Bo7 final. But well.
On July 18 2015 05:07 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 05:05 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 05:01 opisska wrote:On July 18 2015 04:59 OtherWorld wrote:On July 18 2015 04:55 opisska wrote: This hate on Bo5 finals is just another circlejerk of yours, there is nothing inherently wrong about it. Only some people just can stand when something is not exactly the same all the time. I wonder how you handle when they change the menu at McDonalds. The higher the X, the less luck is a meaningful factor to decide the result, thus the more "skill" is important to determine the winner, and surely what we want to do with these competitions is to determine who's the best player of the tournament, not who's the luckiest. And I try to avoid McDonalds. That shit is tasteless and expensive (relative to the food quality). There are just too many variables and too many ways you can do it. You will always just find out who is the best in a given format and thus it is for the best to have the tourneys vary, so that different kinds of players can shine. Do you think Tasteless likes McDonalds? Hmm not always. Basically think it this way : if in a tournament like GSL all matches were Bo1s, do you think we would always find out who's the best player of the tournament? I would surely not be against having one weekend tournament like that, giving money and WCS points. Not the GSL/SSL though, these should be the "best" format we can come up with, because they are the pinnacle of the sport. But one tourney, sure. Pretty much the same as I found it absurd when people fought against IEM WC being winner-takes-all - when it is not the norm, but a minority of tourneys, almost everything should be allowed. Hmm I see, OK. Yeah I can see where you're coming from, but without thinking about WCS and this kind of things, a tournament with low X in BoX will always be seen as less prestigious/important than one with a higher X.
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Well, Curious played retardedly greedy. Deserved loss.
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Patience gonna 2-2 this it looks like
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On July 18 2015 05:13 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Guys why did the thread die All the casuals left yo
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so the final might start before midnight local?
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