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On July 06 2015 02:31 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Reminds me of Maru a lot tbh.
He reminds me of WOL gumiho. Cute builds, great use of map features and crazy multitasking.
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On July 06 2015 02:29 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:28 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. Kt coaches questionable :D Flash's been good in r3, imo Zest should've played less.
In round 3 Stats got benched for TY 3 times, that was interesting. The thing is, Zest went 5-3 in r3, he lost to Maru, Dream and Creator. And later got a 2-kill against Jin Air (which is more than the rest of the team managed combined  ). Imo it wasn't bad to field Zest so often. Just the ace match against Jin Air was a mistake.
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On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD
It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D
Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes.
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On July 06 2015 02:32 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:31 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Reminds me of Maru a lot tbh. He reminds me of WOL gumiho. Cute builds, great use of map features and crazy multitasking.
He has really good micro too :D
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On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes.
Mines drops don't do crazy damage in TvZ. Zerg players have actually have good mechanics >.>
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Elentos
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On July 06 2015 02:30 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Top 3 terran might be the most overused phrase. I remember last year when polt, bomber, flash, innovation, maru, and taeja all managed to be a top 3 terran.
Well. On TY's best days there's no huge difference to be seen between his skill and Dream's or Maru's, while the gap between them and other Terrans (bar INnoVation as he is currently getting back to form) is gigantic.
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On July 06 2015 02:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:29 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:28 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. Kt coaches questionable :D Flash's been good in r3, imo Zest should've played less. In round 3 Stats got benched for TY 3 times, that was interesting. The thing is, Zest went 5-3 in r3, he lost to Maru, Dream and Creator. And later got a 2-kill against Jin Air (which is more than the rest of the team managed combined ). Imo it wasn't bad to field Zest so often. Just the ace match against Jin Air was a mistake.
And vs Creator xD. Doesn't matter ofc. Benching Life a bunch wouldn't be bad either (1/2 times per round) so he can focus on important individual matches. Imo there is the place for 5 players with almost the same playing time for KT (5ish appearance each)
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On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes.
yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good
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Oh man that terrible GSL announcer impression. RIP.
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On July 06 2015 02:34 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:32 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:28 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. Kt coaches questionable :D Flash's been good in r3, imo Zest should've played less. In round 3 Stats got benched for TY 3 times, that was interesting. The thing is, Zest went 5-3 in r3, he lost to Maru, Dream and Creator. And later got a 2-kill against Jin Air (which is more than the rest of the team managed combined ). Imo it wasn't bad to field Zest so often. Just the ace match against Jin Air was a mistake. And vs Creator xD. Doesn't matter ofc. Benching Life a bunch wouldn't be bad either (1/2 times per round) so he can focus on important individual matches. Imo there is the place for 5 players with almost the same playing time for KT (5ish appearance each)
That Creator game was Zest losing for no reason t.t
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On July 06 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:30 royalroadweed wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Top 3 terran might be the most overused phrase. I remember last year when polt, bomber, flash, innovation, maru, and taeja all managed to be a top 3 terran. Well. On TY's best days there's no huge difference to be seen between his skill and Dream's or Maru's, while the gap between them and other Terrans (bar INnoVation as he is currently getting back to form) is gigantic.
I agree on his recent from. However, I've been fooled by TY before when he was 7-0 in proleague before bombing out in code a.
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On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good
He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant?
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On July 06 2015 02:37 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant?
Hear ye, hear ye, Maru invented all Terran play.
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On July 06 2015 02:37 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant?
His TvZ is better than Maru's. His TvP is comparable.
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Really greedy 2 hatch muta
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On July 06 2015 02:36 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:30 royalroadweed wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Top 3 terran might be the most overused phrase. I remember last year when polt, bomber, flash, innovation, maru, and taeja all managed to be a top 3 terran. Well. On TY's best days there's no huge difference to be seen between his skill and Dream's or Maru's, while the gap between them and other Terrans (bar INnoVation as he is currently getting back to form) is gigantic. I agree on his recent from. However, I've been fooled by TY before when he was 7-0 in proleague before bombing out in code a.
That's why I specifically mentioned his "best days". He also has off days where he plays like a B-teamer :S
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On July 06 2015 02:38 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:37 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant? Hear ye, hear ye, Maru invented all Terran play.
I like Dream more than Maru tho
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Does an SCV beat a ling 1v1 like broodwar?
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