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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
June 26 2015 21:56 GMT
#1941
On June 27 2015 06:55 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 06:54 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:53 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:52 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:42 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:41 graNite wrote:
omg what was that... guys, you need to give me reasons to watch you. this is just master league gameplay that i can see on every ladderstream! reaper into addon with 0 scouting... great

also known as standard play


0 scouting is standard play, aha.


Actually yes. Yes it is. Scouting is pretty rare before the reaper for terran or lings for zerg


it is not. you are playing wcs premier league. you dont see anything until your reaper arrives at the protoss base on a 2player map. why would anyone in the world risk that and not scout?

there is too much on the line to not scout. just bad decisionmaking


it costs valuable minerals to send out early scouts

Not losing > 100 minerals


Sometimes you lose because you missed out on those 100 minerals though.


this will never happen in a game that goes that long that these 100 minerals would be mined by this one worker.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24590 Posts
June 26 2015 21:57 GMT
#1942
On June 27 2015 06:56 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 06:55 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:54 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:53 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:52 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:42 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:41 graNite wrote:
omg what was that... guys, you need to give me reasons to watch you. this is just master league gameplay that i can see on every ladderstream! reaper into addon with 0 scouting... great

also known as standard play


0 scouting is standard play, aha.


Actually yes. Yes it is. Scouting is pretty rare before the reaper for terran or lings for zerg


it is not. you are playing wcs premier league. you dont see anything until your reaper arrives at the protoss base on a 2player map. why would anyone in the world risk that and not scout?

there is too much on the line to not scout. just bad decisionmaking


it costs valuable minerals to send out early scouts

Not losing > 100 minerals


Sometimes you lose because you missed out on those 100 minerals though.

sometimes you lose because you didn't want to finish your natural wall for 100 minerals


Indeed. That's Starcraft
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 26 2015 21:57 GMT
#1943
On June 27 2015 06:56 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 06:55 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:54 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:53 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:52 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:42 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:41 graNite wrote:
omg what was that... guys, you need to give me reasons to watch you. this is just master league gameplay that i can see on every ladderstream! reaper into addon with 0 scouting... great

also known as standard play


0 scouting is standard play, aha.


Actually yes. Yes it is. Scouting is pretty rare before the reaper for terran or lings for zerg


it is not. you are playing wcs premier league. you dont see anything until your reaper arrives at the protoss base on a 2player map. why would anyone in the world risk that and not scout?

there is too much on the line to not scout. just bad decisionmaking


it costs valuable minerals to send out early scouts

Not losing > 100 minerals


Sometimes you lose because you missed out on those 100 minerals though.


this will never happen in a game that goes that long that these 100 minerals would be mined by this one worker.

holy fuck you better call all these progamers and tell them their build suck!!!!


fucking starcraft prodigy being born here
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44923 Posts
June 26 2015 21:57 GMT
#1944
Jaedong next?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 26 2015 21:57 GMT
#1945
On June 27 2015 06:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 06:55 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:53 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:52 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:42 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:41 graNite wrote:
omg what was that... guys, you need to give me reasons to watch you. this is just master league gameplay that i can see on every ladderstream! reaper into addon with 0 scouting... great

also known as standard play


0 scouting is standard play, aha.


Actually yes. Yes it is. Scouting is pretty rare before the reaper for terran or lings for zerg


it is not. you are playing wcs premier league. you dont see anything until your reaper arrives at the protoss base on a 2player map. why would anyone in the world risk that and not scout?

there is too much on the line to not scout. just bad decisionmaking


it costs valuable minerals to send out early scouts


do you even know how much you lose by scouting with an scv after depot? if you really lose a game by scouting and losing minerals, you wouldnt have won anyways. and do you really want to tell me that these minerals are more important than being safe?


We all understand that you think a player should scout. That doesn't change that it isn't in the meta. Not scouting in the early game before a reaper is pretty normal

you didn't know? if TL posters had the mechanics of pro players they would be better than them. pros are just physically talented, the real brains are here in the LR
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#1946
On June 27 2015 06:56 Shellshock wrote:
does this mean it's JAEDONG TIME?!!?!?


It does, it most definitely does!!! Wooooooooooooo!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
June 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#1947
On June 27 2015 06:57 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 06:56 Ej_ wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:55 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:54 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:53 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:52 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:42 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:41 graNite wrote:
omg what was that... guys, you need to give me reasons to watch you. this is just master league gameplay that i can see on every ladderstream! reaper into addon with 0 scouting... great

also known as standard play


0 scouting is standard play, aha.


Actually yes. Yes it is. Scouting is pretty rare before the reaper for terran or lings for zerg


it is not. you are playing wcs premier league. you dont see anything until your reaper arrives at the protoss base on a 2player map. why would anyone in the world risk that and not scout?

there is too much on the line to not scout. just bad decisionmaking


it costs valuable minerals to send out early scouts

Not losing > 100 minerals


Sometimes you lose because you missed out on those 100 minerals though.

sometimes you lose because you didn't want to finish your natural wall for 100 minerals


Indeed. That's Starcraft

#JustTerranThings

Anyway, Group D is kinde boring so i guess i'll watch the Polt vs Mlord vods, from reading the thread i can expect some glorious throws
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24590 Posts
June 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#1948
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#1949
Time for that fake dong to get destroyed

heheheheh
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#1950
On June 27 2015 06:57 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 06:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:55 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:53 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:52 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:42 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:41 graNite wrote:
omg what was that... guys, you need to give me reasons to watch you. this is just master league gameplay that i can see on every ladderstream! reaper into addon with 0 scouting... great

also known as standard play


0 scouting is standard play, aha.


Actually yes. Yes it is. Scouting is pretty rare before the reaper for terran or lings for zerg


it is not. you are playing wcs premier league. you dont see anything until your reaper arrives at the protoss base on a 2player map. why would anyone in the world risk that and not scout?

there is too much on the line to not scout. just bad decisionmaking


it costs valuable minerals to send out early scouts


do you even know how much you lose by scouting with an scv after depot? if you really lose a game by scouting and losing minerals, you wouldnt have won anyways. and do you really want to tell me that these minerals are more important than being safe?


We all understand that you think a player should scout. That doesn't change that it isn't in the meta. Not scouting in the early game before a reaper is pretty normal

you didn't know? if TL posters had the mechanics of pro players they would be better than them. pros are just physically talented, the real brains are here in the LR

it might have been instituted after you were already registered but TL now requires proof that you're KR GM before you can make an account so we're all pretty much gods at this game
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28495 Posts
June 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#1951
Bring out the sheep boys
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
June 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#1952
PATRAPATUUUUUUUUSS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#1953
the day will finish up with
Jaedong > Petraeus
Stardust > Jaedong
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#1954
On June 27 2015 06:58 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 06:57 brickrd wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:55 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:53 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:52 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:45 graNite wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:42 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:41 graNite wrote:
omg what was that... guys, you need to give me reasons to watch you. this is just master league gameplay that i can see on every ladderstream! reaper into addon with 0 scouting... great

also known as standard play


0 scouting is standard play, aha.


Actually yes. Yes it is. Scouting is pretty rare before the reaper for terran or lings for zerg


it is not. you are playing wcs premier league. you dont see anything until your reaper arrives at the protoss base on a 2player map. why would anyone in the world risk that and not scout?

there is too much on the line to not scout. just bad decisionmaking


it costs valuable minerals to send out early scouts


do you even know how much you lose by scouting with an scv after depot? if you really lose a game by scouting and losing minerals, you wouldnt have won anyways. and do you really want to tell me that these minerals are more important than being safe?


We all understand that you think a player should scout. That doesn't change that it isn't in the meta. Not scouting in the early game before a reaper is pretty normal

you didn't know? if TL posters had the mechanics of pro players they would be better than them. pros are just physically talented, the real brains are here in the LR

it might have been instituted after you were already registered but TL now requires proof that you're KR GM before you can make an account so we're all pretty much gods at this game

most of people with TL+ are really only frauds that got their accounts boosted cause they had the money
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#1955
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.

it's almost as if you can get metagamed with greed if you scout every game just like you can get metagamed with aggression if you don't scout every game?! almost like these minor differences actually add up and matter at a level of play none of us could ever sniff if we were standing on stilts???
TL+ Member
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#1956
If foreigners were consistently as good as koreans, this game would be met with much more enthusiasm. Lilbow was so sympathetic, I hope he can dish out some surprises tomorrow.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 26 2015 22:00 GMT
#1957
I'm a bit late but
LILBOWWWWW :D
First foreign WCS Champion boys, you heard it here first
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 26 2015 22:00 GMT
#1958
Where would you rank Lilbow among foreigners right now?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
June 26 2015 22:00 GMT
#1959
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.

If you scout after starting rax and refinery you don't lose a lot and stand to gain everything. You even get the difference back in mules.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 26 2015 22:00 GMT
#1960
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.


its actually the difference between winning 161,512 USD or being herO.
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