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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
June 17 2015 11:28 GMT
#421
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


I do think gold bases are rather imbalanced but you have to give Byul credit for having the guts to pull out a 6 pool in that situation. Great players have qualities like that, and Byul has hung in there against sOs craziness
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 17 2015 11:28 GMT
#422
On June 17 2015 20:28 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


Doesn't sOs just win if he sends the zealot to the gold?

No, he lost the second he opened gateway essentially. Why would every Zerg do that build if it loses to forge AND gate first?
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#423
On June 17 2015 20:25 Alucen-Will- wrote:
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On June 17 2015 20:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:22 OtherWorld wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:21 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:19 OtherWorld wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:17 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:17 Ej_ wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:15 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:14 DJHelium wrote:
[quote]

A bit late now but took a while to find this, it's Nathanias reaction watching Cure "split" his marines.



Why is it that Cure has a reputation of having bad micro off of one series where he was awake for like 24 hours AND 3-0'd snute on like 200 ping

-.-

oh I thought it was because that time he stood all of his marines in place while 30 speed banes were rolling in their direction in his SSL match


It's true Cure's TvZ bio is terrible and lacks micro.

Why do I comment on these LR threads?

Lol, read the whole conversation again. The original point was that Cure had bad micro and army control in his match vs SoulKey, which is a fact. Somehow you tranformed it into "Cure always has and always had bad micro", which no one ever said


Did you read Ej_'s comment ?

Yes I did, and he specifically mentions that time when he lost his SSL match to SoulKey...


By referring to another game he was insinuating that this is a general trend about his play..


Ej_'s first comment, at the very beginning, mentions Cure vs SK in SSL. Ej_'s last comment mentions the very same game, where is he referring to another game?


the initial conversation was referring to the game he played against snute in the iem wc qualifier where u didn't split a bunch of marines. There was a video link of nathanias responding to the game while on a talk show

The video refers to Cure's game vs Snute. However your initial post that trigerred this whole debate, and these two posts by GumBa and Ej + Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2015 20:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:02 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:01 GumBa wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:59 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:58 GumBa wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:57 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:56 GumBa wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:52 Alucen-Will- wrote:
[quote]

His gsl performance was pretty uninteresting to be honest.

Although his proleague game against flash was good and I think his TvT is showing some nice form of late

2015; when Inno's individual league performance is terrible and his TvT is good.


The odd thing is that the series he played against Cure in the semifinals of last year's was one of the more impressive series he's played in my eyes. (particularly in TvT)

Cure has been looking pretty bad recently tbh


Obviously I'm an apologist but he played pretty good games against Flash and Inno, just lost to good talented players


I dunno something seems off about his play. His GSL and SSL runs ended badly in challenger and code a and PL hasnt been too hot for him. I am usually used to better play from him.
He played solid vs Inno I suppose but Flash kinda trashed him.


Hm, Idk. He's honestly gotten extremely unlucky in his individual league draws: He drew Soulkey and Rain who are pretty much the antithesis to his playstyle

I suppose he got unlucky with this seasons Rain. But he really should have beaten SK because Cure is pretty good at TvZ but he played woefully bad. I hope he gets back to form, I know I take potshots at you and him sometimes but I actually have like Cure for a long time


He really didn't play poorly at all in those games. He opened hellion banshee against The ironwall of soulkey who scouted the build all 3 times. If I remember correctly, all 3 games ended up being fairly draw out bio vs muta/ling/bane which were largely lost from the openings.

That said I'm a huge apologist so you can take it as it is

no, he got absolutely destroyed because his army control was bad

On June 17 2015 20:03 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:02 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:01 GumBa wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:59 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:58 GumBa wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:57 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:56 GumBa wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 17 2015 19:52 Alucen-Will- wrote:
[quote]

His gsl performance was pretty uninteresting to be honest.

Although his proleague game against flash was good and I think his TvT is showing some nice form of late

2015; when Inno's individual league performance is terrible and his TvT is good.


The odd thing is that the series he played against Cure in the semifinals of last year's was one of the more impressive series he's played in my eyes. (particularly in TvT)

Cure has been looking pretty bad recently tbh


Obviously I'm an apologist but he played pretty good games against Flash and Inno, just lost to good talented players


I dunno something seems off about his play. His GSL and SSL runs ended badly in challenger and code a and PL hasnt been too hot for him. I am usually used to better play from him.
He played solid vs Inno I suppose but Flash kinda trashed him.


Hm, Idk. He's honestly gotten extremely unlucky in his individual league draws: He drew Soulkey and Rain who are pretty much the antithesis to his playstyle

I suppose he got unlucky with this seasons Rain. But he really should have beaten SK because Cure is pretty good at TvZ but he played woefully bad. I hope he gets back to form, I know I take potshots at you and him sometimes but I actually have like Cure for a long time


He really didn't play poorly at all in those games. He opened hellion banshee against The ironwall of soulkey who scouted the build all 3 times. If I remember correctly, all 3 games ended up being fairly draw out bio vs muta/ling/bane which were largely lost from the openings.

That said I'm a huge apologist so you can take it as it is

He didnt micro for shit in that series. His splits were terrible

, are about his series vs SK as you mention it yourself ("the ironwall of soulkey"). Sooo...?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#424
On June 17 2015 20:28 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


Doesn't sOs just win if he sends the zealot to the gold?

I didn't see what he did, but yes. You are supposed to send the zealot to the base you are cannon rushing. I think Byul could just cancel the gold though and it's still not a perfect situation for sOs.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#425
hahaha sOs with the defense
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#426
On June 17 2015 20:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


I do think gold bases are rather imbalanced but you have to give Byul credit for having the guts to pull out a 6 pool in that situation. Great players have qualities like that, and Byul has hung in there against sOs craziness

Oh yes, I like Byul, but that was not a 5 star game and the attitude of a couple of people here is really silly.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#427
PatchZerg
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
June 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#428
On June 17 2015 20:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


I do think gold bases are rather imbalanced but you have to give Byul credit for having the guts to pull out a 6 pool in that situation. Great players have qualities like that, and Byul has hung in there against sOs craziness

MVP was hailed as a great champion partly because of he cheesed at the right time.
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
June 17 2015 11:30 GMT
#429
God, I have a bad feeling about this one. Please Byul, dont force me to root for Curious....
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
June 17 2015 11:30 GMT
#430
On June 17 2015 20:29 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


I do think gold bases are rather imbalanced but you have to give Byul credit for having the guts to pull out a 6 pool in that situation. Great players have qualities like that, and Byul has hung in there against sOs craziness

Oh yes, I like Byul, but that was not a 5 star game and the attitude of a couple of people here is really silly.


Yeah its hard to argue with that, I miss a lot of the older muta/corruptor PvZ's from last year :/
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 17 2015 11:30 GMT
#431
On June 17 2015 20:30 kottbullar wrote:
God, I have a bad feeling about this one. Please Byul, dont force me to root for Curious....

wtf Curious is a god
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 17 2015 11:30 GMT
#432
On June 17 2015 20:29 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


I do think gold bases are rather imbalanced but you have to give Byul credit for having the guts to pull out a 6 pool in that situation. Great players have qualities like that, and Byul has hung in there against sOs craziness

Oh yes, I like Byul, but that was not a 5 star game and the attitude of a couple of people here is really silly.

Don't act like you're not hyping your favorite players like hell when they win (like when Maru win for example^^)
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 17 2015 11:31 GMT
#433
THE DEFENCE
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
June 17 2015 11:31 GMT
#434
GG ByuL!
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 17 2015 11:31 GMT
#435
On June 17 2015 20:31 GumBa wrote:
THE DEFENCE

$O$ PARKING THE BUS M9 xD
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 17 2015 11:31 GMT
#436
On June 17 2015 20:30 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:29 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:26 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 17 2015 20:23 owlman wrote:
i hate those imba gold base ... get rid of those map next season plz

Freewin map, after a 6pool BO win. Yet people call him the GSL winner and give 5 stars for that excuse of a game.The Byul hypetrain is pathetic, rofl


I do think gold bases are rather imbalanced but you have to give Byul credit for having the guts to pull out a 6 pool in that situation. Great players have qualities like that, and Byul has hung in there against sOs craziness

Oh yes, I like Byul, but that was not a 5 star game and the attitude of a couple of people here is really silly.

Don't act like you're not hyping your favorite players like hell when they win (like when Maru win for example^^)

DAE 2RAX GOAT
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 17 2015 11:31 GMT
#437
On June 17 2015 20:31 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 20:31 GumBa wrote:
THE DEFENCE

$O$ PARKING THE BUS M9 xD

CHELSEAAAAAAAAAA
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 17 2015 11:32 GMT
#438
sOs remembers the Alamo
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 17 2015 11:32 GMT
#439
HE HOLDS
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
June 17 2015 11:32 GMT
#440
Rain vs Byul is going to be SICK
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