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Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
June 18 2015 21:37 GMT
#101
On June 19 2015 06:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:35 Ppjack wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:32 Shellshock wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:14 Heartland wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:31 Shellshock wrote:
uThermal will beat Lilbow


seems you were right

uThermal is playing well lately. He won the IEM EU qualifier beating Snute in the WB final. Wouldn't surprise me to see him win this one today. Didn't expect Naniwa to beat him yesterday which is why it was kind of disappointing to not see Naniwa play again today


Is it possible that Snute/Lilbow/Marinelord/Bunny and other contenders for a spot are saving their "best" strats for WCS next week ?
But uThermal is definitively wcs ro16 caliber. Well deserved !


Snute nor lilbow are in WCS right?


You are right, Snute is not. But Lilbow is in group C !
<;o)
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 18 2015 21:37 GMT
#102
On June 19 2015 06:36 Ppjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:34 ptbl wrote:
So, a couple of spine crawlers would have stopped that push to buy some time. I guess snute panicked.


3 immortals know how to deal pretty well against spine crawlers


Just to buy time. He didn't even have his spore crawlers in position.
Don't mind me
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 18 2015 21:37 GMT
#103
On June 19 2015 06:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:35 Ppjack wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:32 Shellshock wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:14 Heartland wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:31 Shellshock wrote:
uThermal will beat Lilbow


seems you were right

uThermal is playing well lately. He won the IEM EU qualifier beating Snute in the WB final. Wouldn't surprise me to see him win this one today. Didn't expect Naniwa to beat him yesterday which is why it was kind of disappointing to not see Naniwa play again today


Is it possible that Snute/Lilbow/Marinelord/Bunny and other contenders for a spot are saving their "best" strats for WCS next week ?
But uThermal is definitively wcs ro16 caliber. Well deserved !


Snute nor lilbow are in WCS right?

Confused lilbow with Showtime

Snute was eliminated but Lilbow made it to the RO16
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 18 2015 21:46 GMT
#104
On June 19 2015 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:35 Ppjack wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:32 Shellshock wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:14 Heartland wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:31 Shellshock wrote:
uThermal will beat Lilbow


seems you were right

uThermal is playing well lately. He won the IEM EU qualifier beating Snute in the WB final. Wouldn't surprise me to see him win this one today. Didn't expect Naniwa to beat him yesterday which is why it was kind of disappointing to not see Naniwa play again today


Is it possible that Snute/Lilbow/Marinelord/Bunny and other contenders for a spot are saving their "best" strats for WCS next week ?
But uThermal is definitively wcs ro16 caliber. Well deserved !


Snute nor lilbow are in WCS right?

Confused lilbow with Showtime

Snute was eliminated but Lilbow made it to the RO16


Come on shellbot the edit even made into your post quote
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 18 2015 21:49 GMT
#105
On June 19 2015 06:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:35 Ppjack wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:32 Shellshock wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:14 Heartland wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:31 Shellshock wrote:
uThermal will beat Lilbow


seems you were right

uThermal is playing well lately. He won the IEM EU qualifier beating Snute in the WB final. Wouldn't surprise me to see him win this one today. Didn't expect Naniwa to beat him yesterday which is why it was kind of disappointing to not see Naniwa play again today


Is it possible that Snute/Lilbow/Marinelord/Bunny and other contenders for a spot are saving their "best" strats for WCS next week ?
But uThermal is definitively wcs ro16 caliber. Well deserved !


Snute nor lilbow are in WCS right?

Confused lilbow with Showtime

Snute was eliminated but Lilbow made it to the RO16


Come on shellbot the edit even made into your post quote

not that shocking. I'm only a shell of my former self
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 18 2015 21:57 GMT
#106
snutes lair is always too late to defend immortal all ins with hydras, pls stop ;CC
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 18 2015 21:57 GMT
#107
Vesa "Welmu" Hovinen!
why even
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 18 2015 22:00 GMT
#108
Hkw the hell do you lose to an immortall all in again? Snute is seriously underestimating welmu. He got too cocky.
Don't mind me
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 18 2015 22:02 GMT
#109
On June 19 2015 07:00 ptbl wrote:
Hkw the hell do you lose to an immortall all in again? Snute is seriously underestimating welmu. He got too cocky.

LOL snute does not get cocky vs protoss

Also, losing to immortal all ins is hilariously easy sometimes Snute keeps trying to hold immortal all ins with hydras even though his lair is a bit late usually i think
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 18 2015 22:05 GMT
#110
On June 19 2015 07:02 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:00 ptbl wrote:
Hkw the hell do you lose to an immortall all in again? Snute is seriously underestimating welmu. He got too cocky.

LOL snute does not get cocky vs protoss

Also, losing to immortal all ins is hilariously easy sometimes Snute keeps trying to hold immortal all ins with hydras even though his lair is a bit late usually i think


He didn't scout with his overlord. He decided to save his overlord when it was going to die anyway. Snute has a history of having scouting problems.

He also didn't bait out any forcefield. The one time he tried he lost 7 roaches.
Don't mind me
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 18 2015 22:07 GMT
#111
On June 19 2015 07:05 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:02 Aocowns wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:00 ptbl wrote:
Hkw the hell do you lose to an immortall all in again? Snute is seriously underestimating welmu. He got too cocky.

LOL snute does not get cocky vs protoss

Also, losing to immortal all ins is hilariously easy sometimes Snute keeps trying to hold immortal all ins with hydras even though his lair is a bit late usually i think


He didn't scout with his overlord. He decided to save his overlord when it was going to die anyway. Snute has a history of having scouting problems.

He also didn't bait out any forcefield. The one time he tried he lost 7 roaches.

Thats not snute being cocky, thats him being/feeling shitty against protoss atm.. and scouting wouldnt really have helped him, since his build doesnt get him hydras fast enough to defend, and thats what he was trying to do
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 18 2015 22:08 GMT
#112
I can understand losing to an immortal push. It happens to everyone. But losing to TWO immortal pushes in the same series? There is no excuse to lose to a second time. You should be aware and on your guard that it could be coming.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 18 2015 22:10 GMT
#113
On June 19 2015 07:07 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:05 ptbl wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:02 Aocowns wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:00 ptbl wrote:
Hkw the hell do you lose to an immortall all in again? Snute is seriously underestimating welmu. He got too cocky.

LOL snute does not get cocky vs protoss

Also, losing to immortal all ins is hilariously easy sometimes Snute keeps trying to hold immortal all ins with hydras even though his lair is a bit late usually i think


He didn't scout with his overlord. He decided to save his overlord when it was going to die anyway. Snute has a history of having scouting problems.

He also didn't bait out any forcefield. The one time he tried he lost 7 roaches.

Thats not snute being cocky, thats him being/feeling shitty against protoss atm.. and scouting wouldnt really have helped him, since his build doesnt get him hydras fast enough to defend, and thats what he was trying to do


It didn't work the first time. Why did snute decide to do the hydra build again? Seems like he was being cocky. Probably thinking Welmu got lucky the first time, so he decides to do the same hydra build.
Don't mind me
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 18 2015 22:13 GMT
#114
uThermal hype!
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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 18 2015 22:20 GMT
#115
Welp, I guess Liquid can't win everything. Snute did well and won the IEM shenzen qualifier. Today wasn't Snute's day. He still one of my favorite players. I don't mean to be too hard on him. I just really want him to do well. Snute fighting!
Don't mind me
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 18 2015 22:35 GMT
#116
Welmu! Nice and clean.
why even
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 18 2015 22:44 GMT
#117
didn't see game 3 but to answer the hydra thing there are different immortal timings. in game 1 welmu was using the very aggressive 2 gas zealot heavy version whose entire point is to hit faster, as rifkin was pointing out normally you would want to build up an assload of sentries but you can trade that off for a faster allin. thats why hydras werent ready in time, that and because welmu dealt with the ling counterattack (which was a good idea) very easily.

can't comment on snute's mindset in game 3 but if it was a scouting problem then well there you go. saying "he should have been ready/scouted better, there's no excuse" is easy but sometimes you just fuck up your scouting or get an incorrect gut read, it happens even to the highest of high level players
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 18 2015 22:51 GMT
#118
Nooooooooooo

Oh well. Grats Welmu
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Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
June 18 2015 23:48 GMT
#119
i read the feedback and agree with it, leaving personal excuses and reasons aside i think most kespa zergs would have no problems dealing with these types of builds so i'm aiming to improve my play (as always) and hopefully shut protoss plays like this down hard the next time. it might not be the most celebrated opinion out there but imo skilled zergs should consistently beat these builds. so maybe next time. [image loading]
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 18 2015 23:53 GMT
#120
On June 19 2015 08:48 Liquid`Snute wrote:
i read the feedback and agree with it, leaving personal excuses and reasons aside i think most kespa zergs would have no problems dealing with these types of builds so i'm aiming to improve my play (as always) and hopefully shut protoss plays like this down hard the next time. it might not be the most celebrated opinion out there but imo skilled zergs should consistently beat these builds. so maybe next time. [image loading]

You the best Snute, get em next time.
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