EPT[Code S] Ro16 Group A Season 2 2015 - Page 60
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KingofdaHipHop
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vult
United States9395 Posts
Maru will still win the whole enchilada. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On May 27 2015 23:21 Rollora wrote: It always makes me mad, if someone wins and advances over another player by cheap tricks. Especially when you believe the other player is better. But that is how the game works and how every race can do it. PPL (me including sometimes) hate on Toss because they seem to have more viable cheese accessible then other races. I still have to accept that this isn't by accident and will get patched out, but it is by incident. If I can finally accept that, I propably get mad less often at those players that actually only have their one trick they play on ladder all day and either it works or it doesn't. It's most frustrating when you watch the replay and you see they just play blind, don't scout, just play their build, invest way less into the game -still win. Everytime I got several of those on one day, I get so mad that I want to uninstall the game. I am mad at myself for not scouting the small hidden building on a huge map, (because, if you get cheesed, of course its your fault, you should have scouted it...), mad of getting outplayed from a player that doesn't give a shit about the game und wants to win dirty, mad that I get outplayed by someone who has only one build for years and I invest so much to understand the game better, micro, macro, timings, scouting... Whenever I have a hard day of work, and just want to play some games and get cheesed out by yet another 40 APM opponent, I get so mad at this whole shit, I already uninstalled the game and didn't play for half a year. But then, I remember it is reminding me that if I rage, it is only because I care. So I play it still, and I still lose to cheese. No matter how hard I scout, even sometimes when I see it.... Raging at these FML things are great, I then see that I don't have bigger problems in my life. Cheap trick? The risk involved is truly huge. It's (most of the time) a high risk, high reward strategy. And in a strategy game, diversity is good. I'm not good enough to make a clear and nice case, but consider that we don't see protoss cheesing every game, so that must not be the super duper choice that makes scrubs win against top tier players. Also, that notion of the "better player" makes me cringe. You should read "Playing to Win" by David Sirlin. He explains nicely that you have to drop any "honor code" when you play a game. The game decides who wins, not your "code", and in this case, the game said "MyuNgSiK" won. Some player are good at offense, some at defense, some at micro, others at macro, some cheese very well, others abuse a unit (lol InCa), others master many different units combination... You can't absolutely rank players, because styles clash, weaknesses/strengths clash. One metric however, works: who wins things, and who doesn't. And at this precise moment, MyuNgSiK won. Sure he doesn't has the titles Life has, sure he didn't won as much. But the trophies apparently didn't help Life in this series, nor did MyuNgSiK lack of trophies prevented him from winning. Oh, and it doesn't matter that protoss has more cheeses or not, and I don't think that's truly the case. Terrans have proxy rax, marines, bunker rushes, reapers, proxy marauders, proxy fact/port (I consider it a cheese), economical cheese (3/4 OC). Zerg has baneling bust, roach baneling bust, fast mutas, proxy hatchery. And that's not even considering those we don't know yet because no one tried/found about it. Some of those work on many maps, some require some specific layout, but just as for protoss cheeses. | ||
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Ctesias
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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KtJ
United States3514 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
apparently that was bomber during one of the games -.- blah I got over it. wp myungsik | ||
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dazed25
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On May 28 2015 00:01 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Someone explain to me how this happened holy what the fuck. Myungsik left Prime so his skill went up 100% But seriously what the actual fuck happened | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On May 26 2015 06:05 TheAnarchy wrote: I think myungssik and bomber advancing. Life 1-2 Myungsik Bomber 2-0 Maru Bomber 1-2 Myungsik Life 0-2 Maru Bomber 2-1 Maru Life going 0-2 was pretty obvius (myung, maru and bomber all could defeat life). Bomber losing against myung was pretty obvius. But bomber losing to Maru =( that was pretty disapointing | ||
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SBGamer
Germany115 Posts
On May 28 2015 02:01 TheAnarchy wrote: Life going 0-2 was pretty obvius (myung, maru and bomber all could defeat life). Bomber losing against myung was pretty obvius. But bomber losing to Maru =( that was pretty disapointing Bomber losing to Maru was expected, but not that onesided. Bomber losing to Myungsik was the biggest upset for me. | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On May 28 2015 01:55 chipmonklord17 wrote: Myungsik left Prime so his skill went up 100% But seriously what the actual fuck happened Myungsik is underrated he is a pretty good player even when he was at Kt he was good. He has defeated Dark, SK, Rogue, Losira, Leenock in the last matches and he only lost to byul who is now the best zerg. | ||
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On May 28 2015 02:23 swag_bro wrote: Life already made Blizzcon, he doesn't care anymore and that's why he lost. Why bother when you already made it to Blizzcon? The whole point of even bothering to lay in GSL or any tournament is to get WCS points and Life has enough so he doesn't care anymore. That's the reality of it. If Life cared at all, he would never drop a single map ever again until he decided to retires. thanks swag_bro | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 28 2015 01:35 Deathstar wrote: https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CGAxZ4tUgAAFyns.mp4 apparently that was bomber during one of the games -.- blah I got over it. wp myungsik haha, wonder what happened here xD "ahh-shhhh, stfu Legend. Nope, out out out. Watch and learn" On May 28 2015 02:23 swag_bro wrote: Life already made Blizzcon, he doesn't care anymore and that's why he lost. Why bother when you already made it to Blizzcon? The whole point of even bothering to lay in GSL or any tournament is to get WCS points and Life has enough so he doesn't care anymore. That's the reality of it. If Life cared at all, he would never drop a single map ever again until he decided to retires. Man, even swag_bro is in a slump :/ today is depressing. | ||
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LockeTazeline
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