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On May 24 2015 06:53 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I still don't understand why these Chinese Protoss like Phoenix/Colossus so much
It was talked about a little while ago. The fact that they play with such high ping to the Korean/NA servers they tend to shy aware from templar based builds because of how lag effects storm usage. When you virtually eliminate templar from the game Phoenix/Colossus is one of the better, non all in, builds
On May 24 2015 06:54 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:50 royalroadweed wrote:On May 24 2015 06:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Also reminder that there was a time where ForGG was on oGs and wanted to be referred to as Fin.
That was a thing Was that the only time fan backlash over a name change worked? Losira is losira again after dropping it to become Kangho. But yea. On May 24 2015 06:49 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:44 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:34 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:32 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:28 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:[quote] Well yes but we don't all get what we all want  Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. + Show Spoiler +And every tournament will use round robin  Round Robin was what killed Lucifron. It wasn't RR, that killed him, it was the lack of more tie-brerakers. On May 24 2015 06:30 Boucot wrote:On May 24 2015 06:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:
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Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. next thing you'll tell me is that all of woongin and stx rejoin as their old selves and dominate proleague I want TSL back. If I had to choose to bring one korean team back, it would probably be IM/oGs. oGs was so badass.. Even just the name So many old names connected to oGs; MC, Supernova, Ensnare, Inca, Hyperdub, Jookto, TOP, Inca, TheWind, Luvsic, Zenio, NaDa, TheSTC, HerO in the beginning of his career... If just half of these guys would form an oGs team again, I'd freak out. Zenio should come back and be a baller again. And the rest of the retired liquid guys. Plz Jinro Dude, The Gracken vs The Gorilla Terran showmatch v2.. the hype would be unreal lol. If I wasn't on my phone I'd go digging to find some of those old hype posters. Man if they were both willing, I'd totally chip in to fund a showmatch for old times sake. The original foreign titans How much money do you think we need? To even tempt good ol captain greggors to touch SC2 again?  probably so much that blizzard wants a big say (prize pool of over 9999$)
He apparently jokingly offered to play ace match for EG in the shoutcraft stuff
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On May 24 2015 06:54 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:53 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I still don't understand why these Chinese Protoss like Phoenix/Colossus so much Because they can't play on the Korean ladder without lag so they can't use storm.
You don't even need to go storm in PvT if you don't want to. (At least not until the very late game)
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On May 24 2015 06:54 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:52 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:49 hitpoint wrote:On May 24 2015 06:44 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:34 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:32 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:28 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:[quote] Well yes but we don't all get what we all want Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. + Show Spoiler +And every tournament will use round robin Round Robin was what killed Lucifron. It wasn't RR, that killed him, it was the lack of more tie-brerakers. On May 24 2015 06:30 Boucot wrote:On May 24 2015 06:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:
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Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. next thing you'll tell me is that all of woongin and stx rejoin as their old selves and dominate proleague I want TSL back. If I had to choose to bring one korean team back, it would probably be IM/oGs. oGs was so badass.. Even just the name So many old names connected to oGs; MC, Supernova, Ensnare, Inca, Hyperdub, Jookto, TOP, Inca, TheWind, Luvsic, Zenio, NaDa, TheSTC, HerO in the beginning of his career... If just half of these guys would form an oGs team again, I'd freak out. Don't forget Tester and Fruitdealer. They left oGs, before I started watching SC, I only know them as TSL/ST-players. Tester even rejoined startale and then did nothing. I wanted him to do well again so bad. Its funny that the best Beta players didn't really accomplish much.
They still have time. 2016 will be the year of Tester/Maka/Fruitdealer. And Harstem ofc.
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On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army
funny because the popular response is mass vikings
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On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army
You only need bio and need to be Maru
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On May 24 2015 06:55 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army funny because the popular response is mass vikings
And that's funny because mass Phoenixes beat mass Vikings from my experience, unless they are massing so they can just target down Colossi before they lose all of their Vikings.
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Yup, mass Vikings > Phoenix/Colossus.
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On May 24 2015 06:55 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army funny because the popular response is mass vikings
The point of Phoenix/Colossus is to make the terran player make too many vikings and remove the dps from the bio army..
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On May 24 2015 06:55 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:54 royalroadweed wrote:On May 24 2015 06:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:52 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:49 hitpoint wrote:On May 24 2015 06:44 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:34 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:32 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:28 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:[quote] Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. + Show Spoiler +And every tournament will use round robin Round Robin was what killed Lucifron. It wasn't RR, that killed him, it was the lack of more tie-brerakers. On May 24 2015 06:30 Boucot wrote:On May 24 2015 06:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:[quote] next thing you'll tell me is that all of woongin and stx rejoin as their old selves and dominate proleague I want TSL back. If I had to choose to bring one korean team back, it would probably be IM/oGs. oGs was so badass.. Even just the name So many old names connected to oGs; MC, Supernova, Ensnare, Inca, Hyperdub, Jookto, TOP, Inca, TheWind, Luvsic, Zenio, NaDa, TheSTC, HerO in the beginning of his career... If just half of these guys would form an oGs team again, I'd freak out. Don't forget Tester and Fruitdealer. They left oGs, before I started watching SC, I only know them as TSL/ST-players. Tester even rejoined startale and then did nothing. I wanted him to do well again so bad. Its funny that the best Beta players didn't really accomplish much. They still have time. 2016 will be the year of Tester/Maka/Fruitdealer. And Harstem ofc.
Fruitdealer to busy skiing and drinking to come back
Though I'd love to see Maka. He could rejoin Prime and breathe life back in
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On May 24 2015 06:54 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:52 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:49 hitpoint wrote:On May 24 2015 06:44 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:34 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:32 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:28 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:[quote] Well yes but we don't all get what we all want Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. + Show Spoiler +And every tournament will use round robin Round Robin was what killed Lucifron. It wasn't RR, that killed him, it was the lack of more tie-brerakers. On May 24 2015 06:30 Boucot wrote:On May 24 2015 06:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:
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Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. next thing you'll tell me is that all of woongin and stx rejoin as their old selves and dominate proleague I want TSL back. If I had to choose to bring one korean team back, it would probably be IM/oGs. oGs was so badass.. Even just the name So many old names connected to oGs; MC, Supernova, Ensnare, Inca, Hyperdub, Jookto, TOP, Inca, TheWind, Luvsic, Zenio, NaDa, TheSTC, HerO in the beginning of his career... If just half of these guys would form an oGs team again, I'd freak out. Don't forget Tester and Fruitdealer. They left oGs, before I started watching SC, I only know them as TSL/ST-players. Tester even rejoined startale and then did nothing. I wanted him to do well again so bad. Its funny that the best Beta players didn't really accomplish much.
Idra, Whitera, and TLO all did plenty I think. Maka and Tester were the biggest disappointments that come to mind. But they mostly just played in GSL.
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On May 24 2015 06:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:53 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I still don't understand why these Chinese Protoss like Phoenix/Colossus so much It was talked about a little while ago. The fact that they play with such high ping to the Korean/NA servers they tend to shy aware from templar based builds because of how lag effects storm usage. When you virtually eliminate templar from the game Phoenix/Colossus is one of the better, non all in, builds Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:54 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:50 royalroadweed wrote:On May 24 2015 06:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Also reminder that there was a time where ForGG was on oGs and wanted to be referred to as Fin.
That was a thing Was that the only time fan backlash over a name change worked? Losira is losira again after dropping it to become Kangho. But yea. On May 24 2015 06:49 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:44 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:34 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:32 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:28 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 06:26 Xoronius wrote:[quote] Yes, we can. We'll have Luci, T-ZaiN, MaNa and Vortix back on mouz at some point, all in their peak forms and become the best non-korean team again. It will be glorious. + Show Spoiler +And every tournament will use round robin Round Robin was what killed Lucifron. It wasn't RR, that killed him, it was the lack of more tie-brerakers. On May 24 2015 06:30 Boucot wrote:On May 24 2015 06:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:[quote] next thing you'll tell me is that all of woongin and stx rejoin as their old selves and dominate proleague I want TSL back. If I had to choose to bring one korean team back, it would probably be IM/oGs. oGs was so badass.. Even just the name So many old names connected to oGs; MC, Supernova, Ensnare, Inca, Hyperdub, Jookto, TOP, Inca, TheWind, Luvsic, Zenio, NaDa, TheSTC, HerO in the beginning of his career... If just half of these guys would form an oGs team again, I'd freak out. Zenio should come back and be a baller again. And the rest of the retired liquid guys. Plz Jinro Dude, The Gracken vs The Gorilla Terran showmatch v2.. the hype would be unreal lol. If I wasn't on my phone I'd go digging to find some of those old hype posters. Man if they were both willing, I'd totally chip in to fund a showmatch for old times sake. The original foreign titans How much money do you think we need? To even tempt good ol captain greggors to touch SC2 again? probably so much that blizzard wants a big say (prize pool of over 9999$) He apparently jokingly offered to play ace match for EG in the shoutcraft stuff
Nooo that was just huk cockteasing again right? Wasn't the first time lol, playing with the emotions of old fanboys all over the world
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On May 24 2015 06:57 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:55 Ej_ wrote:On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army funny because the popular response is mass vikings And that's funny because mass Phoenixes beat mass Vikings from my experience, unless they are massing so they can just target down Colossi before they lose all of their Vikings.
exactly
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On May 24 2015 06:57 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:55 Ej_ wrote:On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army funny because the popular response is mass vikings And that's funny because mass Phoenixes beat mass Vikings from my experience, unless they are massing so they can just target down Colossi before they lose all of their Vikings.
My favorite response is bio-thor.
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Kind of an over-extension by Mystery
On May 24 2015 06:55 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army You only need bio and need to be Maru
One does not simply be Maru
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On May 24 2015 06:58 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:53 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I still don't understand why these Chinese Protoss like Phoenix/Colossus so much It was talked about a little while ago. The fact that they play with such high ping to the Korean/NA servers they tend to shy aware from templar based builds because of how lag effects storm usage. When you virtually eliminate templar from the game Phoenix/Colossus is one of the better, non all in, builds On May 24 2015 06:54 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:50 royalroadweed wrote:On May 24 2015 06:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Also reminder that there was a time where ForGG was on oGs and wanted to be referred to as Fin.
That was a thing Was that the only time fan backlash over a name change worked? Losira is losira again after dropping it to become Kangho. But yea. On May 24 2015 06:49 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:On May 24 2015 06:44 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:34 Aocowns wrote:On May 24 2015 06:32 Xoronius wrote:On May 24 2015 06:28 stuchiu wrote:
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Round Robin was what killed Lucifron. It wasn't RR, that killed him, it was the lack of more tie-brerakers. On May 24 2015 06:30 Boucot wrote:[quote] I want TSL back. If I had to choose to bring one korean team back, it would probably be IM/oGs. oGs was so badass.. Even just the name So many old names connected to oGs; MC, Supernova, Ensnare, Inca, Hyperdub, Jookto, TOP, Inca, TheWind, Luvsic, Zenio, NaDa, TheSTC, HerO in the beginning of his career... If just half of these guys would form an oGs team again, I'd freak out. Zenio should come back and be a baller again. And the rest of the retired liquid guys. Plz Jinro Dude, The Gracken vs The Gorilla Terran showmatch v2.. the hype would be unreal lol. If I wasn't on my phone I'd go digging to find some of those old hype posters. Man if they were both willing, I'd totally chip in to fund a showmatch for old times sake. The original foreign titans How much money do you think we need? To even tempt good ol captain greggors to touch SC2 again? probably so much that blizzard wants a big say (prize pool of over 9999$) He apparently jokingly offered to play ace match for EG in the shoutcraft stuff Nooo that was just huk cockteasing again right? Wasn't the first time lol, playing with the emotions of old fanboys all over the world
Wait was it? I assumed idra really did jokingly offer
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On May 24 2015 06:57 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:55 Ej_ wrote:On May 24 2015 06:54 Alucen-Will- wrote:
All you have to do against Phoenix Colossus is cut vikings largely, and make ghosts/bio army funny because the popular response is mass vikings And that's funny because mass Phoenixes beat mass Vikings from my experience, unless they are massing so they can just target down Colossi before they lose all of their Vikings.
I don't see how the Phoenixes can really protect the Colossi since the Vikings can just target fire.
In any moving engagement the Vikings will kill 1 or 2 Phoenixes for each volley.
The Phoenixes cannot get too close or they get shredded by Marine fire.
In a direct engagement you just target fire the Colossi and then the Phoenixes are worthless.
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I'm glad to see marinelord isn't too nervous to beat an amateur
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