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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#1441
WHATTTTT
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#1442
I love this proxy from Byul, nobody scouts there
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
May 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#1443
Oh haha there are 3 golds on this map, almost forgot
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
May 04 2015 13:43 GMT
#1444
4 hatch before pool with taking all the golds pls
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 04 2015 13:44 GMT
#1445
On May 04 2015 22:40 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 22:39 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:35 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:33 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:29 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:25 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:17 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:11 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
He has the worst PvT : PvX ratio of all top P players

Which can be attributed to other top P players having not as good PvX

My sentence wasn't clear so I try to reformulate. It goes like: you can have a worse understanding of a match-up yet have better performances than an overall weaker player with a stronger understanding of said match-up.


Yeah, and Zest's understanding of PvT is very good. His winrates don't show it.

Nope, it's not good at all. I care little about winrates, most of the time they darken the picture. Zest losing to TANGTANG was probably more telling, too bad we don't have the games to confirm

I bet TANGTANG didn't play a single straight-up game.

Above all I bet TANGTANG would not be able to do that vs PartinG or herO

What was Sjow vs Life then? The showing of Life's bad understanding of ZvT?

More like his usual stubborness from memory. A better example would be Life vs bio compared with Life vs mech, which makes him win vs TaeJa's bio but lose ForGG's mech (before he finally decides to adapt)


Oh god, you had to bring up Taeja didn't you.

Uh?
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
May 04 2015 13:44 GMT
#1446
On May 04 2015 22:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
STYLE START SBENU

Was Life vs Dream and Maru vs Byul any good?


Life - Dream was really scrappy. None of the games were really good, imo. But the last one was decent.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
May 04 2015 13:44 GMT
#1447
Omg and snipes a probe in the nat... wow
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
May 04 2015 13:45 GMT
#1448
Bring back the 8 stalker 5 zealot rush pls
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
May 04 2015 13:46 GMT
#1449
wow map hacks
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
May 04 2015 13:46 GMT
#1450
Myungsik, no! The surveyors' report says that the soil here is too unstable to lay railway tracks!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 13:47:15
May 04 2015 13:46 GMT
#1451
On May 04 2015 22:44 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 22:40 Ketch wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:39 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:35 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:33 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:29 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:25 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:17 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Which can be attributed to other top P players having not as good PvX

My sentence wasn't clear so I try to reformulate. It goes like: you can have a worse understanding of a match-up yet have better performances than an overall weaker player with a stronger understanding of said match-up.


Yeah, and Zest's understanding of PvT is very good. His winrates don't show it.

Nope, it's not good at all. I care little about winrates, most of the time they darken the picture. Zest losing to TANGTANG was probably more telling, too bad we don't have the games to confirm

I bet TANGTANG didn't play a single straight-up game.

Above all I bet TANGTANG would not be able to do that vs PartinG or herO

What was Sjow vs Life then? The showing of Life's bad understanding of ZvT?

More like his usual stubborness from memory. A better example would be Life vs bio compared with Life vs mech, which makes him win vs TaeJa's bio but lose ForGG's mech (before he finally decides to adapt)


Oh god, you had to bring up Taeja didn't you.

Uh?


Had to think of your(?) post earlier today that with downtime we'd get in the 8540430303th Taeja discussion and you were bringing it very close to a new Taeja discussion
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2015 13:47 GMT
#1452
On May 04 2015 22:46 Waxangel wrote:
Myungsik, no! The surveyors' report says that the soil here is too unstable to lay railway tracks!

that's why Byul hype train will be derailed
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
May 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#1453
How the hell did Myungsik miss that spire?
Hello
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
May 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#1454
haha
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
May 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#1455
Scout spire, lose 19 probes anyway. Standard Protoss D:
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
May 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#1456
This is creepy :S
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
May 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#1457
Im surprise he see the spire 2 times and dont notice
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#1458
On May 04 2015 22:46 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 22:44 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:40 Ketch wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:39 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:35 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:33 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:29 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 04 2015 22:25 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
My sentence wasn't clear so I try to reformulate. It goes like: you can have a worse understanding of a match-up yet have better performances than an overall weaker player with a stronger understanding of said match-up.


Yeah, and Zest's understanding of PvT is very good. His winrates don't show it.

Nope, it's not good at all. I care little about winrates, most of the time they darken the picture. Zest losing to TANGTANG was probably more telling, too bad we don't have the games to confirm

I bet TANGTANG didn't play a single straight-up game.

Above all I bet TANGTANG would not be able to do that vs PartinG or herO

What was Sjow vs Life then? The showing of Life's bad understanding of ZvT?

More like his usual stubborness from memory. A better example would be Life vs bio compared with Life vs mech, which makes him win vs TaeJa's bio but lose ForGG's mech (before he finally decides to adapt)


Oh god, you had to bring up Taeja didn't you.

Uh?


Had to think of your(?) post earlier today that with downtime we'd get in the 8540430303th Taeja discussion and you were bringing it very close to a new Taeja discussion

No, I had no intent to discuss TaeJa, it was just an example about how worse understanding in a domain can make you lose against a weaker player
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 04 2015 13:49 GMT
#1459
Well that was amateur scouting and recognition
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
May 04 2015 13:49 GMT
#1460
That's almost a MK level map awareness
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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