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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 04 2015 12:25 GMT
#1181
On May 04 2015 21:24 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Pretty sure Rain was that at some point

Rain didn't peak this high in all matchups iirc.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
in_flvxx
Profile Joined March 2015
Australia226 Posts
May 04 2015 12:25 GMT
#1182
On May 04 2015 21:23 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.

Creator's PvP is better

Haha..his tears after those Zest matches were amazing. Speaks volumes of Zest's prowess in the matchup tho.
Zest | herO || Life | Dark || Bomber | Maru | Dream | TY | Flash
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 04 2015 12:25 GMT
#1183
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Our recent protoss heroes have always had a weak/semi-weak matchup. Zest got closest with sickening PvP and PvZ but slightly weak PvT, herO's PvP is still an issue, Dear had weak PvP. Parting has issues vs zerg and protoss sometimes.

I think 2012 Rain was the last time we had a protoss who was dominant in all matchups.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 12:25:59
May 04 2015 12:25 GMT
#1184
you can hit workers on the other side I think? for sure you can warp in across
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 04 2015 12:26 GMT
#1185
Wtf why is Waxangel in this thread? P&W told me that he died
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
May 04 2015 12:28 GMT
#1186
OH MY GOODNESS
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2015 12:28 GMT
#1187
wowowhwhwat
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 12:30:23
May 04 2015 12:28 GMT
#1188
On May 04 2015 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Our recent protoss heroes have always had a weak/semi-weak matchup. Zest got closest with sickening PvP and PvZ but slightly weak PvT, herO's PvP is still an issue, Dear had weak PvP. Parting has issues vs zerg and protoss sometimes.

I think 2012 Rain was the last time we had a protoss who was dominant in all matchups.


Ok so
PvT you need godlike micro= Parting
PvZ god Blink and force field, multi prong attack= her0
PvP defend macro and patience = Zest
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 04 2015 12:28 GMT
#1189
On May 04 2015 21:25 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:24 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:23 Lorning wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.

Creator's PvP is better

No.

Remember that time Creator beat Zest twice in 1 day?

Remember that time Creator lost to Classic? Creator is good at PvP, but not as good as Zest when Zest is in shape.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
May 04 2015 12:28 GMT
#1190
I hate forcefield. :|
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 04 2015 12:30 GMT
#1191
On May 04 2015 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Our recent protoss heroes have always had a weak/semi-weak matchup. Zest got closest with sickening PvP and PvZ but slightly weak PvT, herO's PvP is still an issue, Dear had weak PvP. Parting has issues vs zerg and protoss sometimes.

I think 2012 Rain was the last time we had a protoss who was dominant in all matchups.


Every player has "that one" matchup in which he isn't so strong if you are just critical enough.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 04 2015 12:30 GMT
#1192
On May 04 2015 21:28 covetousrat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Our recent protoss heroes have always had a weak/semi-weak matchup. Zest got closest with sickening PvP and PvZ but slightly weak PvT, herO's PvP is still an issue, Dear had weak PvP. Parting has issues vs zerg and protoss sometimes.

I think 2012 Rain was the last time we had a protoss who was dominant in all matchups.


Ok so
PvT you need godlike micro= Parting
PvZ god Blink and force field= her0
PvP defend macro and patience = Zest

It's more than that. PartinG's micro is better than herO's but herO does better vs Zerg. Similarly, Zest's army control with maxed armies is better than PartinG's and herO's. If you fused them into one you'd get a super being.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
in_flvxx
Profile Joined March 2015
Australia226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 12:32:20
May 04 2015 12:31 GMT
#1193
herO's timings are razor-thin, bordering lucky.
Zest | herO || Life | Dark || Bomber | Maru | Dream | TY | Flash
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
May 04 2015 12:32 GMT
#1194
I just got chills
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 04 2015 12:33 GMT
#1195
Blinding clouded the nexus cannon. Nice.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 04 2015 12:33 GMT
#1196
This map is truly terrible for PvZ (for Protoss at least.) Kind of surprising even PartinG tries to play macro on this when the third base can be so easily canceled by the zerg player.

Even the great macro player herO is having a tough time.
Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
May 04 2015 12:33 GMT
#1197
Ugh SK really poor micro and army movement throughout this series :S
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 04 2015 12:33 GMT
#1198
On May 04 2015 21:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:28 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Our recent protoss heroes have always had a weak/semi-weak matchup. Zest got closest with sickening PvP and PvZ but slightly weak PvT, herO's PvP is still an issue, Dear had weak PvP. Parting has issues vs zerg and protoss sometimes.

I think 2012 Rain was the last time we had a protoss who was dominant in all matchups.


Ok so
PvT you need godlike micro= Parting
PvZ god Blink and force field= her0
PvP defend macro and patience = Zest

It's more than that. PartinG's micro is better than herO's but herO does better vs Zerg. Similarly, Zest's army control with maxed armies is better than PartinG's and herO's. If you fused them into one you'd get a super being.


Honestly all you need is to fuse HerO and MC. Unstoppable god protoss. If HerO had MC's ability to kill people he would never lose.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 04 2015 12:35 GMT
#1199
On May 04 2015 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:30 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:28 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Our recent protoss heroes have always had a weak/semi-weak matchup. Zest got closest with sickening PvP and PvZ but slightly weak PvT, herO's PvP is still an issue, Dear had weak PvP. Parting has issues vs zerg and protoss sometimes.

I think 2012 Rain was the last time we had a protoss who was dominant in all matchups.


Ok so
PvT you need godlike micro= Parting
PvZ god Blink and force field= her0
PvP defend macro and patience = Zest

It's more than that. PartinG's micro is better than herO's but herO does better vs Zerg. Similarly, Zest's army control with maxed armies is better than PartinG's and herO's. If you fused them into one you'd get a super being.


Honestly all you need is to fuse HerO and MC. Unstoppable god protoss. If HerO had MC's ability to kill people he would never lose.


Cmon man, its 2015
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 04 2015 12:35 GMT
#1200
On May 04 2015 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:30 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:28 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 covetousrat wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:20 in_flvxx wrote:
Well..PartinG best PvT, herO best PvZ, Zest best PvP?

Yeah.


If there is someone with all those...

If someone had that much skill -> immediate Protoss banjo.


Our recent protoss heroes have always had a weak/semi-weak matchup. Zest got closest with sickening PvP and PvZ but slightly weak PvT, herO's PvP is still an issue, Dear had weak PvP. Parting has issues vs zerg and protoss sometimes.

I think 2012 Rain was the last time we had a protoss who was dominant in all matchups.


Ok so
PvT you need godlike micro= Parting
PvZ god Blink and force field= her0
PvP defend macro and patience = Zest

It's more than that. PartinG's micro is better than herO's but herO does better vs Zerg. Similarly, Zest's army control with maxed armies is better than PartinG's and herO's. If you fused them into one you'd get a super being.


Honestly all you need is to fuse HerO and MC. Unstoppable god protoss.

LOL
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