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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 04 2015 10:41 GMT
#781
This match should be as about exciting as it gets from a fan perspective
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
May 04 2015 10:41 GMT
#782
On May 04 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:33 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:27 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:26 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:18 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:14 REyeM wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:11 Ej_ wrote:
also, OtherWorld, feel called out for doubting Dark

I will never ever believe in Dark. At least until he wins a Premier, which won't happen since he's on SKT.


He better start attending more DHs so people can consider him to be a top player


Yeah, beat a bunch of foreigners all the time and be called #3 GOAT

#bias


I'm curious whether people are seriously mad about the Taeja ranking or it's become a tongue in cheek sort of thing on these forums. Taeja has always shown he's capable of taking down Kespa monsters like Innovation, Zest, and was one game away from probably winning Blizzcon if he won against Life.


Yeah and by that logic Sjow is the greatest foreigner who ever lived because that one time he beat Life

Come on now. TaeJa has consistently played on par with Life in weekend tournaments. In the GSL/WCS preparation format he never achieved that much, but in the weekend format he was an actual top player who didn't need to luck out to do well.


Okay, so in the big leagues where legends are made and champions play at their best; in an system where the "strategy" in RTS was half of the match,Taeja was never very relevant.

Explain to me why he should be as highly rated as he is by some TOTALLY UNBIASED, NOT AT ALL AFFILIATED writers?

Taeja beat some big names in an environment where he was comfortable occasionally, but those big names ALWAYS beat Taeja in Korea where they could prepare for him.

Would you really say that 2 semifinals and a couple ro8's in a career that has spanned 4-5 years really befits the player that is being called the THIRD GREATEST OF ALL TIME?


I would say winning more Premier tournaments than any other player certainly makes him a contender for 3rd greatest. It's not like he 2-raxed a bunch of foreigners to win those tournaments.


I'd respectfully disagree. You can win the minor leagues all you want, you can't be Micheal Jordan if you barely make the playoffs in the NBA.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 04 2015 10:42 GMT
#783
On May 04 2015 19:33 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:27 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:26 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:18 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:14 REyeM wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:11 Ej_ wrote:
also, OtherWorld, feel called out for doubting Dark

I will never ever believe in Dark. At least until he wins a Premier, which won't happen since he's on SKT.


He better start attending more DHs so people can consider him to be a top player


Yeah, beat a bunch of foreigners all the time and be called #3 GOAT

#bias


I'm curious whether people are seriously mad about the Taeja ranking or it's become a tongue in cheek sort of thing on these forums. Taeja has always shown he's capable of taking down Kespa monsters like Innovation, Zest, and was one game away from probably winning Blizzcon if he won against Life.


Yeah and by that logic Sjow is the greatest foreigner who ever lived because that one time he beat Life

Come on now. TaeJa has consistently played on par with Life in weekend tournaments. In the GSL/WCS preparation format he never achieved that much, but in the weekend format he was an actual top player who didn't need to luck out to do well.


Okay, so in the big leagues where legends are made and champions play at their best; in an system where the "strategy" in RTS was half of the match,Taeja was never very relevant.

Explain to me why he should be as highly rated as he is by some TOTALLY UNBIASED, NOT AT ALL AFFILIATED writers?

Taeja beat some big names in an environment where he was comfortable occasionally, but those big names ALWAYS beat Taeja in Korea where they could prepare for him.

Would you really say that 2 semifinals and a couple ro8's in a career that has spanned 4-5 years really befits the player that is being called the THIRD GREATEST OF ALL TIME?




The question is basically how high you rate weekend tournaments. If you go by overall performance, it's between Life and Taeja who is the number one.
If you start to rate GSLs and similar Korean tournaments very highly, Taeja drops in ranks very fast (and Mvp rises). Number 3 is kind of a comprimise, one that I feel like isn't 100% consistent given how we have players like MMA or MC also being brilliant in both, but not out of line either.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 04 2015 10:42 GMT
#784
On May 04 2015 19:41 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:33 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:27 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:26 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:18 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:14 REyeM wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:11 Ej_ wrote:
also, OtherWorld, feel called out for doubting Dark

I will never ever believe in Dark. At least until he wins a Premier, which won't happen since he's on SKT.


He better start attending more DHs so people can consider him to be a top player


Yeah, beat a bunch of foreigners all the time and be called #3 GOAT

#bias


I'm curious whether people are seriously mad about the Taeja ranking or it's become a tongue in cheek sort of thing on these forums. Taeja has always shown he's capable of taking down Kespa monsters like Innovation, Zest, and was one game away from probably winning Blizzcon if he won against Life.


Yeah and by that logic Sjow is the greatest foreigner who ever lived because that one time he beat Life

Come on now. TaeJa has consistently played on par with Life in weekend tournaments. In the GSL/WCS preparation format he never achieved that much, but in the weekend format he was an actual top player who didn't need to luck out to do well.


Okay, so in the big leagues where legends are made and champions play at their best; in an system where the "strategy" in RTS was half of the match,Taeja was never very relevant.

Explain to me why he should be as highly rated as he is by some TOTALLY UNBIASED, NOT AT ALL AFFILIATED writers?

Taeja beat some big names in an environment where he was comfortable occasionally, but those big names ALWAYS beat Taeja in Korea where they could prepare for him.

Would you really say that 2 semifinals and a couple ro8's in a career that has spanned 4-5 years really befits the player that is being called the THIRD GREATEST OF ALL TIME?


I would say winning more Premier tournaments than any other player certainly makes him a contender for 3rd greatest. It's not like he 2-raxed a bunch of foreigners to win those tournaments.


I'd respectfully disagree. You can win the minor leagues all you want, you can't be Micheal Jordan if you barely make the playoffs in the NBA.


and Michael Jordan was in Space Jam. your move Taeja
Zerg for Life
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 04 2015 10:43 GMT
#785
This is why downtimes need to be nuked in tournaments. So that we don't have time for the 6054054004040th TaeJa debate to arise
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 04 2015 10:44 GMT
#786
On May 04 2015 19:41 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:33 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:27 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:26 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:18 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:14 REyeM wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:11 Ej_ wrote:
also, OtherWorld, feel called out for doubting Dark

I will never ever believe in Dark. At least until he wins a Premier, which won't happen since he's on SKT.


He better start attending more DHs so people can consider him to be a top player


Yeah, beat a bunch of foreigners all the time and be called #3 GOAT

#bias


I'm curious whether people are seriously mad about the Taeja ranking or it's become a tongue in cheek sort of thing on these forums. Taeja has always shown he's capable of taking down Kespa monsters like Innovation, Zest, and was one game away from probably winning Blizzcon if he won against Life.


Yeah and by that logic Sjow is the greatest foreigner who ever lived because that one time he beat Life

Come on now. TaeJa has consistently played on par with Life in weekend tournaments. In the GSL/WCS preparation format he never achieved that much, but in the weekend format he was an actual top player who didn't need to luck out to do well.


Okay, so in the big leagues where legends are made and champions play at their best; in an system where the "strategy" in RTS was half of the match,Taeja was never very relevant.

Explain to me why he should be as highly rated as he is by some TOTALLY UNBIASED, NOT AT ALL AFFILIATED writers?

Taeja beat some big names in an environment where he was comfortable occasionally, but those big names ALWAYS beat Taeja in Korea where they could prepare for him.

Would you really say that 2 semifinals and a couple ro8's in a career that has spanned 4-5 years really befits the player that is being called the THIRD GREATEST OF ALL TIME?


I would say winning more Premier tournaments than any other player certainly makes him a contender for 3rd greatest. It's not like he 2-raxed a bunch of foreigners to win those tournaments.


I'd respectfully disagree. You can win the minor leagues all you want, you can't be Micheal Jordan if you barely make the playoffs in the NBA.

That's just a dumb analogy and you should be ashamed for it. The tournaments may not have been called GSL, but that doesn't make them easy. The competition is strong and in part overlaps. It's like winning everything in Tennis except for Roland Garros.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 10:44:32
May 04 2015 10:44 GMT
#787
On May 04 2015 19:43 TheDwf wrote:
This is why downtimes need to be nuked in tournaments. So that we don't have time for the 6054054004040th TaeJa debate to arise

yeah, fuck passion!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2015 10:44 GMT
#788
On May 04 2015 19:43 TheDwf wrote:
This is why downtimes need to be nuked in tournaments. So that we don't have time for the 6054054004040th TaeJa debate to arise

it's not a debate, some people were just born wrong
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 04 2015 10:44 GMT
#789
On May 04 2015 19:42 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:41 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:33 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:27 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:26 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:18 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:14 REyeM wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:12 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
I will never ever believe in Dark. At least until he wins a Premier, which won't happen since he's on SKT.


He better start attending more DHs so people can consider him to be a top player


Yeah, beat a bunch of foreigners all the time and be called #3 GOAT

#bias


I'm curious whether people are seriously mad about the Taeja ranking or it's become a tongue in cheek sort of thing on these forums. Taeja has always shown he's capable of taking down Kespa monsters like Innovation, Zest, and was one game away from probably winning Blizzcon if he won against Life.


Yeah and by that logic Sjow is the greatest foreigner who ever lived because that one time he beat Life

Come on now. TaeJa has consistently played on par with Life in weekend tournaments. In the GSL/WCS preparation format he never achieved that much, but in the weekend format he was an actual top player who didn't need to luck out to do well.


Okay, so in the big leagues where legends are made and champions play at their best; in an system where the "strategy" in RTS was half of the match,Taeja was never very relevant.

Explain to me why he should be as highly rated as he is by some TOTALLY UNBIASED, NOT AT ALL AFFILIATED writers?

Taeja beat some big names in an environment where he was comfortable occasionally, but those big names ALWAYS beat Taeja in Korea where they could prepare for him.

Would you really say that 2 semifinals and a couple ro8's in a career that has spanned 4-5 years really befits the player that is being called the THIRD GREATEST OF ALL TIME?


I would say winning more Premier tournaments than any other player certainly makes him a contender for 3rd greatest. It's not like he 2-raxed a bunch of foreigners to win those tournaments.


I'd respectfully disagree. You can win the minor leagues all you want, you can't be Micheal Jordan if you barely make the playoffs in the NBA.


and Michael Jordan was in Space Jam. your move Taeja


Well fuck, can't compete with that. Perhaps Taeja could star in a Carbot vid
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 04 2015 10:45 GMT
#790
On May 04 2015 19:44 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:43 TheDwf wrote:
This is why downtimes need to be nuked in tournaments. So that we don't have time for the 6054054004040th TaeJa debate to arise

it's not a debate, some people were just born wrong

Hahaha
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2015 10:47 GMT
#791
I really don't like the KT uniforms. I think that shirt looks like part of a fitness body straight from 70s.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 10:48:50
May 04 2015 10:47 GMT
#792
On May 04 2015 19:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:44 Ej_ wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:43 TheDwf wrote:
This is why downtimes need to be nuked in tournaments. So that we don't have time for the 6054054004040th TaeJa debate to arise

it's not a debate, some people were just born wrong

Hahaha


Yeah, like people who actually think Taeja is #3 LOL

anyway, sleep time. Goodnight folks, may your Starcraft be amazing.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2015 10:47 GMT
#793
no drone scout, Life doesn't respect Dream
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 04 2015 10:48 GMT
#794
On May 04 2015 19:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:41 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:33 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:27 Elentos wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:26 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:18 Lunareste wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:14 REyeM wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:12 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
I will never ever believe in Dark. At least until he wins a Premier, which won't happen since he's on SKT.


He better start attending more DHs so people can consider him to be a top player


Yeah, beat a bunch of foreigners all the time and be called #3 GOAT

#bias


I'm curious whether people are seriously mad about the Taeja ranking or it's become a tongue in cheek sort of thing on these forums. Taeja has always shown he's capable of taking down Kespa monsters like Innovation, Zest, and was one game away from probably winning Blizzcon if he won against Life.


Yeah and by that logic Sjow is the greatest foreigner who ever lived because that one time he beat Life

Come on now. TaeJa has consistently played on par with Life in weekend tournaments. In the GSL/WCS preparation format he never achieved that much, but in the weekend format he was an actual top player who didn't need to luck out to do well.


Okay, so in the big leagues where legends are made and champions play at their best; in an system where the "strategy" in RTS was half of the match,Taeja was never very relevant.

Explain to me why he should be as highly rated as he is by some TOTALLY UNBIASED, NOT AT ALL AFFILIATED writers?

Taeja beat some big names in an environment where he was comfortable occasionally, but those big names ALWAYS beat Taeja in Korea where they could prepare for him.

Would you really say that 2 semifinals and a couple ro8's in a career that has spanned 4-5 years really befits the player that is being called the THIRD GREATEST OF ALL TIME?


I would say winning more Premier tournaments than any other player certainly makes him a contender for 3rd greatest. It's not like he 2-raxed a bunch of foreigners to win those tournaments.


I'd respectfully disagree. You can win the minor leagues all you want, you can't be Micheal Jordan if you barely make the playoffs in the NBA.

That's just a dumb analogy and you should be ashamed for it. The tournaments may not have been called GSL, but that doesn't make them easy. The competition is strong and in part overlaps. It's like winning everything in Tennis except for Roland Garros.


it's a bit mean to call it dumb and say he should be ashamed of it.

I think it's more like in the golfing world where they have the PGA tour and then they have the majors. Now Taeja is one of the best at winning those tour events and getting points which is a hard thing to do. But in the major tournaments...never really does anything and the best golfers of all time are all major winners. In any debate it's always

Nicklaus, Palmer,Woods. all major winners.
Zerg for Life
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 04 2015 10:49 GMT
#795
wtf. A zerg the caliber of life should never lose 3 drones to a reaper.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 04 2015 10:49 GMT
#796
On May 04 2015 19:47 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:45 TheDwf wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:44 Ej_ wrote:
On May 04 2015 19:43 TheDwf wrote:
This is why downtimes need to be nuked in tournaments. So that we don't have time for the 6054054004040th TaeJa debate to arise

it's not a debate, some people were just born wrong

Hahaha


Yeah, like people who actually think Taeja is #3 LOL

anyway, sleep time. Goodnight folks, may your Starcraft be amazing.

Good night!
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
May 04 2015 10:50 GMT
#797
This kid is meant to be 2nd GOAT?
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
May 04 2015 10:50 GMT
#798
But how can #2 player of all time lose to 3 reapers? ..
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 04 2015 10:50 GMT
#799
uh oh Life -. -
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2015 10:50 GMT
#800
7 drones holy fuck that's really bad
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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