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As of page 39, matchfixing discussion is banned from this thread. Please keep that discussion in the relevant thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/483048-pinnacle-voids-soulkey-vs-creator-bets | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:46 OtherWorld wrote: A BW match between by.hero and Bogus would be a hero victory for sure haha, I thought you had quoted the comment above yours and wanted to be cheeky  | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:46 graNite wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/17883-tlnet-ten-commandments Rule 2 Rule 6?^^ | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote: Bogus was pretty solid in BW dude so dont bet on it. yeah, but currently one is playing sC2 full time and the other isn't d: | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:47 OtherWorld wrote: yeah, but currently one is playing sC2 full time and the other isn't d: Thought you meant all time. My bad. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:48 Penev wrote: So Creator is going to throw the first map "Phew" :/ The good thing for him is that with how he generally plays PvZ, nobody will notice it in his playstyle. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
I'm not good enough at BW knowledge to be able to mean all-time | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote: I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right? This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one) | ||
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Swoopae
Australia339 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:46 KOVU wrote: Okay so overall match of Soulkey - Creator had odds as I remember ~1.6 on soulkey winning and ~2.x on creator winning. However the Map 1 odds were 8x on Soulkey winning. I realize my post before was completely wrongly worded. I did not get to screenshot as I was trying to bet myself and wasn't allowed since it kept updating lines (with odds being even more skewed) - and then shortly after the entire match dissapeared. By 8x you mean 8.00 on Soulkey meaning he was the underdog? If so that's incredibly damning Or do you mean the price is 8.00 on Creator? | ||
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sharkie
Austria18418 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote: I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right? You don't realise the amount of money that has to be bet in order for the betting lines to change so drastically... If you bet a couple ten thousands the profit will be large enough. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote: I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right? depends on how much you bet. if it is a sure thing, might as well bet a million and cash your 10% return | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:50 Penev wrote: This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one) Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:51 Lorning wrote: Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people No it isn't. You would've known if you read them | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote: I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right? I think the principle is that you want to make sure that the non-favored player loses. I mean it is always possible that SK has a bad day and Creator practiced a fuckton for this match, and ends up winning. And then you lose a lot of money if you didn't make sure Creator would lose. Even if you get a small return on your bet, you still get a 100% certain return. I mean take ForGG vs MarineLord. MarineLord had, like, 20% chances of winning that Bo5? Less than that maybe? Yet someone betting a lot on ForGG would have been very very close to losing his money. | ||
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Swoopae
Australia339 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:51 Lorning wrote: Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people No it isn't if you think that you don't understand math and statistics let along the observations of numerous pros who agreed with the analysis. On topic It doesn't matter if the favourite or underdog is guaranteed to lose if a match if it is fixed it is free money betting on the other player regardless of the odds. Marineking was never a favourite against Byul, but when Byul got bet in from 1.70 to 1.07 someone knew he was going to win in a bo1. If either Soulkey or Creator is 8.00 in ANY map in a bo1 it's 99% likely to be match fixing. Soulkey was only a 3 to 1 favourite for the series let alone a single map. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:52 Penev wrote: No it isn't. You would've known if you read them Yes, it was mostly people bashing each others heads in over "MK guilty or not?". Check your facts Lorning! No it wasn't, but that thread was a shit show. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Penev
28481 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:53 Elentos wrote: Yes, it was mostly people bashing each others heads in over "MK guilty or not?". Check your facts Lorning! No, it wasn't. Besides, you should just skip the stupid bashing posts. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On April 15 2015 20:54 Penev wrote: No, it wasn't. Besides, you should just skip the stupid bashing posts. I know, but the thread was a shit show. | ||
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