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As of page 39, matchfixing discussion is banned from this thread. Please keep that discussion in the relevant thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/483048-pinnacle-voids-soulkey-vs-creator-bets
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 15 2015 11:47 GMT
#461
On April 15 2015 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:45 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:44 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:43 GumBa wrote:
HerO vs INno in Code S pls for vengeance

cmon, you know who would lose

hero

A BW match between by.hero and Bogus would be a hero victory for sure

haha, I thought you had quoted the comment above yours and wanted to be cheeky
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 11:47 GMT
#462
On April 15 2015 20:46 graNite wrote:
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On April 15 2015 07:00 Shellshock wrote:
IM BACK MOTHER FUCKERS AND I MADE A THREAD
SET MY ALARM FOR 5 SO I GET OUT OF BED
IM PUTTING POLLS HERE SO YOU ALL CAN CHOOSE
WHICH PROS GONNA WIN AND WHICH SCRUBS GONNA LOSE



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Rule 6?^^
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 11:47 GMT
#463
On April 15 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:45 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:44 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:43 GumBa wrote:
HerO vs INno in Code S pls for vengeance

cmon, you know who would lose

hero

A BW match between by.hero and Bogus would be a hero victory for sure

Bogus was pretty solid in BW dude so dont bet on it.

yeah, but currently one is playing sC2 full time and the other isn't d:
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28491 Posts
April 15 2015 11:48 GMT
#464
So Creator is going to throw the first map "Phew" :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 11:48 GMT
#465
On April 15 2015 20:47 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:45 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:44 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:43 GumBa wrote:
HerO vs INno in Code S pls for vengeance

cmon, you know who would lose

hero

A BW match between by.hero and Bogus would be a hero victory for sure

Bogus was pretty solid in BW dude so dont bet on it.

yeah, but currently one is playing sC2 full time and the other isn't d:

Thought you meant all time. My bad.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 15 2015 11:49 GMT
#466
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 15 2015 11:50 GMT
#467
On April 15 2015 20:48 Penev wrote:
So Creator is going to throw the first map "Phew" :/

The good thing for him is that with how he generally plays PvZ, nobody will notice it in his playstyle.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 11:50 GMT
#468
On April 15 2015 20:48 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:45 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:44 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:43 GumBa wrote:
HerO vs INno in Code S pls for vengeance

cmon, you know who would lose

hero

A BW match between by.hero and Bogus would be a hero victory for sure

Bogus was pretty solid in BW dude so dont bet on it.

yeah, but currently one is playing sC2 full time and the other isn't d:

Thought you meant all time. My bad.

I'm not good enough at BW knowledge to be able to mean all-time
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28491 Posts
April 15 2015 11:50 GMT
#469
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 11:52:13
April 15 2015 11:50 GMT
#470
On April 15 2015 20:46 KOVU wrote:
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On April 15 2015 20:42 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:34 KOVU wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:32 Swoopae wrote:
So this just happened

[E Sports] [Starcraft 2 - Global StarCraft 2 League ] [Match] Soulkey vs Creator. Your bet with ticket-ID: 458325769, 458326419 has been refunded. All bets taken have been refunded due to the following reason: [Abnormal and suspicious betting activity has been detected for this event. All wagers from all customers have been cancelled. This action is taken very rarely and is for the protection of all our customers.] . Thank you!

The game hasn't happened yet and all bets have been refunded. I wasn't watching the lines live i'm trying to get the info on whether the suspicious money was bet on Creator or Soulkey

Was watching the lines. I posted it earlier but Map 1 had 8x on soulkey to win. So im betting Soulkey is gonna lose first map

What happens to parleys when they cancel a match?


Can you please clarify the betting price on both Soulkey and Creator for map 1, this post is unclear

Okay so overall match of Soulkey - Creator had odds as I remember ~1.6 on soulkey winning and ~2.x on creator winning. However the Map 1 odds were 8x on Soulkey winning. I realize my post before was completely wrongly worded. I did not get to screenshot as I was trying to bet myself and wasn't allowed since it kept updating lines (with odds being even more skewed) - and then shortly after the entire match dissapeared.


By 8x you mean 8.00 on Soulkey meaning he was the underdog? If so that's incredibly damning Or do you mean the price is 8.00 on Creator?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
April 15 2015 11:51 GMT
#471
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?


You don't realise the amount of money that has to be bet in order for the betting lines to change so drastically...
If you bet a couple ten thousands the profit will be large enough.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 15 2015 11:51 GMT
#472
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

depends on how much you bet. if it is a sure thing, might as well bet a million and cash your 10% return
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 15 2015 11:51 GMT
#473
On April 15 2015 20:50 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one)

Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28491 Posts
April 15 2015 11:52 GMT
#474
On April 15 2015 20:51 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:50 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one)

Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people

No it isn't. You would've known if you read them
I Protoss winner, could it be?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 11:53:22
April 15 2015 11:52 GMT
#475
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

I think the principle is that you want to make sure that the non-favored player loses. I mean it is always possible that SK has a bad day and Creator practiced a fuckton for this match, and ends up winning. And then you lose a lot of money if you didn't make sure Creator would lose. Even if you get a small return on your bet, you still get a 100% certain return.
I mean take ForGG vs MarineLord. MarineLord had, like, 20% chances of winning that Bo5? Less than that maybe? Yet someone betting a lot on ForGG would have been very very close to losing his money.
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Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 11:54:58
April 15 2015 11:52 GMT
#476
On April 15 2015 20:51 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:50 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one)

Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people


No it isn't if you think that you don't understand math and statistics let along the observations of numerous pros who agreed with the analysis.

On topic

It doesn't matter if the favourite or underdog is guaranteed to lose if a match if it is fixed it is free money betting on the other player regardless of the odds. Marineking was never a favourite against Byul, but when Byul got bet in from 1.70 to 1.07 someone knew he was going to win in a bo1.

If either Soulkey or Creator is 8.00 in ANY map in a bo1 it's 99% likely to be match fixing. Soulkey was only a 3 to 1 favourite for the series let alone a single map.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 11:54:27
April 15 2015 11:53 GMT
#477
On April 15 2015 20:52 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:51 Lorning wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:50 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one)

Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people

No it isn't. You would've known if you read them

Yes, it was mostly people bashing each others heads in over "MK guilty or not?". Check your facts Lorning!

No it wasn't, but that thread was a shit show.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 11:53 GMT
#478
Lorning vs the match fixing mathematicians
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28491 Posts
April 15 2015 11:54 GMT
#479
On April 15 2015 20:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:52 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:51 Lorning wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:50 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one)

Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people

No it isn't. You would've known if you read them

Yes, it was mostly people bashing each others heads in over "MK guilty or not?". Check your facts Lorning!

No, it wasn't. Besides, you should just skip the stupid bashing posts.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 15 2015 11:54 GMT
#480
On April 15 2015 20:54 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:52 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:51 Lorning wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:50 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2015 20:49 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why they would ask Creator to throw his game. He's very unlikely to win anyway, so everyone will be betting on SK. Don't get too much profit out of that, right?

This has been explained multiple times in the MK thread (and the other one)

Well, I don't visit those threads because it's mostly guessing and falsely accusing people

No it isn't. You would've known if you read them

Yes, it was mostly people bashing each others heads in over "MK guilty or not?". Check your facts Lorning!

No, it wasn't. Besides, you should just skip the stupid bashing posts.

I know, but the thread was a shit show.
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